Holy Grail

[bombus]

Think about it...

Have we any idea what a roulette holy grail is truly worth?

By holy grail I mean absolutely guaranteed profits over any and every financial year.

I was going to poll this topic but there's probably way too many variables, so considering all the ins and outs of casino gambling, how much do you think a grail is worth...dollar figure?

I'm thinking, cashed up, one out, under the radar, not fanatical, $500,000 per year...

What say you?

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[loungeplayer]

hi Bombus, are you trying to say you have a consistent winning strategy?  good for you! :-)

Keep winning!

[Jish]

hi Bombus, are you trying to say you have a consistent winning strategy?  good for you! :-)

Keep winning!

there are a few people on this site that claim to have winning bets yet none of them ever offer concrete proof. I would say if someone had a bet so good, that they could pick a member from this forum at random and double any amount of money he offers them no questions asked. Then i would beleive it

[No More Bets]

hi Bombus, are you trying to say you have a consistent winning strategy? 

Sadly not.  Bombus has nothing but gas.

there are a few people on this site that claim to have winning bets yet none of them ever offer concrete proof.

The complete lack of concrete proof is the surest sign that the conspiracy of silence is working. .

There is NO such thing as a (long term) consistant winning roulette bet. . .

. . .  or is there ?

[winkel]

.... none of them ever offer concrete proof. ...

I did, didn´t I?

[TwoCatSam]

the magorety are stupid.

Yes, we is!

[winkel]

the magorety are stupid.

Yes, we is!

but only the most of them

[Bo0Merang]

Sadly not.  Bombus has nothing but gas. The complete lack of concrete proof is the surest sign that the conspiracy of silence is working. .

There is NO such thing as a (long term) consistant winning roulette bet. . .

. . .  or is there ?

...well put this way..what is consistent about this..why..has to be consistent??....where is it..why s nothing happenning..a hell it is  more then 120 spins...and still .. nothing..im wrong..orr that wheel is wrong..still nothing..yeeh consistent..maybe one time on 350 spins..from numbers wiesbaden it is midle count 300=350 spins...and not quiet sure..what is more interesting that on camegh wheels it seems to be much easy..dont have clue why but it is..by the way  this was my yestaday  session .. gues what no one hit  just even chances was good enough to hold the same bankroll where i was start..nothing 420 spins gues i will start play chess

[bombus]

hi Bombus, are you trying to say you have a consistent winning strategy?  good for you! :-)

Keep winning!

Hi, Loungeplayer.

No, I'm not saying that at all, and I'm not asking if a grail exists. I'm asking if one did exist what dollar value would you put on it?

Cheers.

[bombus]

I say my own mind is my own holy grail. My mind is worth more to me than a winning bet. Because it creates everything great that I have and continue to create in my life. We have to look at the "source" of the outcome. Not the other way around. Someone created their wealth. Then they passed it along. Yes I am aragent. I thought this thinking was normal. But come to find out that the magorety are stupid. So I don't give a f**k anymore. I am normal. And the rest.....well everybody gets what they desurve.

Question says "roulette holy grail"... not "philosophical outlook on life holy grail".

[bombus]

Sadly not.  Bombus has nothing but gas.

Pull my finger...

[Marven]

how much do you think a grail is worth...dollar figure?

Theoretically, a 'holy grail' should be able to produce money anytime, anywhere. The more time you spend playing the more you will mechanically win and there is nothing to stop you. In this sense, I would say it's priceless.

In reality though, we know it's not that simple. The casinos are self-protective businesses, not charities. You would have to make real efforts if you want to stay under the radar and yet manage to make significant amounts, over and over again. This would need a fair amount of discipline, skill and careful management, something not every average person might have. One could still go for the big hits though, but ruin a life-time opportunity by getting him/herself barred from every casino/casino-chain he/she visits.

In this sense I would say it would be worth 1 million, or as you said, 500,000 per year, or a similar amount depending on the edge it yields.

If you want my real subjective opinion though, I personally don't believe there is such a thing as the 'holy grail'. Mind you, I don't like that term. To me it embodies gambler superstition. Still I know this is hypothetical, so if I had a 'holy grail' I personally wouldn't sell it for money, not just because I wouldn't need it by then (obviously), but also because I would be starting to think of making the most out of this holy grail on a greater scale, the motives being something greater than just inflating my bank account with amounts far beyond my need. I would carefully hand-pick a few persons in whose capabilities and humanity I trust, in exchange for them helping me to use it for a greater good (once they secure themselves financially).

[poxet pool]

Speculations..wait a second..thats why gasoline skyrocket in price...I'm going to say a grail is worth $39.95 including a free potato peeler with a moneyback guarantee...U want to keep it a secret right?

[Proofreaders2000]

IMO Casinos love players that think they have the "Holy Grail" because they know they are going to spend a lot of money trying to prove it.  Truth is, along with the mathmatical house edge, there are so many variables being manipulated that are not readily seen by the bettor, one would wonder why play there unless he/she was absolutely sure--if it even took an insider to investigate-that the games are fair.  At least slot machines are required to have a set payout percentage.  Roulette isn't regulated!

I do think a holy grail exists, but it takes self discipline, an in-depth knowledge of roulette--as well as much study of the particular casino and how it operates.  In the olden days, that type of snooping could lead to big trouble.

[Proofreaders2000]

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