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Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 13, 2010, 04:43:16 AM
I am not sure this is the correct place to ask this question ( but maybe it is ).
My question is , has anyone used or understood so called Custom variants that Mr [/url] http://www.genuinewinner.com is talking about in his website.  Of course he says they work , but I can't guess why he'd say they don't. 
So I am curious to death to know if there is any physical explanation for such thing to work.
I can recall eg.  that one form of play (based on a CV pattern) would be like :
-if the last spun number is X and before that it was Y, then bet on Z.
This sounds like playing the roulette's history blindly. . . but who knows?
Fact is, I have read all the details that Mr H.  gives away in his site and I haven't seen anything irregular or slightly suspect to be wrong. . he perfectly knows what he's talking about. . everything except for this thing, which seems at least "optimistic" to me.  On the other hand I doubt he's talking BS.  Soooo if anyone has any related info it will be much appreciated ! Thanks in advance.

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Re: Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 13, 2010, 05:07:25 AM
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-if the last spun number is X and before that it was Y, then bet on Z.

What do you mean but that ??

Do you have an link so i can read about it ??

Lets assume you have devide the wheel into sectors and if sector X hit and before that it was sector Y then bet on sector Z, is that what you talk about.

Pierre Basieux did some-thing similiar with an old DS and if I rember it correct it does around 8% but get destroyed when there is fluctation, but who know maybe we all have to use the Kelly Criteria when we wagering.

As I see it there is a need for an release and an regularity for how many revoloution the ball spins with an constant rotor with one deflector hitting at least 60%.

Do you have dvd spins we can do some work togheter, its a great thing that you can code.

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Re: Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 13, 2010, 05:41:59 AM
Lucky Strike, Mr. [/url] http://www.genuinewinner.com claims that if you hand him , say 1000 spins of a wheel, he can analyze them and give you a "custom variant" which you can use to bet *advantageously* without any VB ie.  before the ball is spun.  This means that this system can exploit the wheel's bias (if any).  Well, if it was about numbers appearing more frequently, this would make some sense , despite the fact that maybe 1000 spins would be inadeqaute.  But to claim that when one sees the pattern X-Y then he should bet on Z (could be narrow sectors instead of single pockets - I guess it's about the same) . . . well, I can't get it.  Obviously the analyzed spins come from several dealers, release speeds, air pressure etc etc.
I couldn't find a direct link, I am afraid you'll have to download his pdf : www.genuinewinner.com/gw.zip and check "custom variants".


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Steve

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Re: Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 18, 2010, 01:18:05 AM
There is nothing voodoo about custom variants. It's just what I call a combination of different types of patterns. Often they do incorporate visual ballistics. Every method I teach is essentially ballistic in some form. But on the surface much of it doesnt appear to be direct "ballistics". It is all the same thing.

There are types of patterns that are relatively unknown. Bias was not even known at one stage. CVs are only voodoo to people that dont know any better.
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Re: Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 18, 2010, 06:15:11 AM
Steve, I didn't know you have an account here! (Nice kitty on the wheel lol) Steve, whatever you have written in your site makes perfect sense .  I guess I have read all of your pages and analyses and tips and advice and all - I even bought that book you were talking about in the pdf (Callum's).  Sorry, but I didn't find it helpful - I read it throughout nevertheless.  I thought it would be scientific and maybe enlighten me somewhat - well it didn't, I really wonder why you promoted it.  Anyways, the truth is I'm dying to know those secret patterns and I would happily pay the fee IF I could afford it.   Well maybe I will someday. . . . One question : for CVs to work, does a wheel need to be tilted or aged etc? Or to put it in a more general context, is there any chance at all that a perfectly level and new wheel be exploited without using electronic stuff? Recently a nearby casino has employed an "AutoWheel 2" roulette, do you believe it would be possible to beat it? The good thing is that noone notices you if you win  :thumbsup:

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Re: Anybody know about "Custom variants" ?
January 18, 2010, 06:40:34 AM
Yes I sort of have an account here. You would be better off emailing me directly with questions.

You will find wheels with defects and conditions such as tilt and dominant diamonds much easier to beat. Can you beat modern level wheels with bets before ball release? If I said yes, there would be people that would have their BS alarms tripped because they sincerely dont know any better. But in fact yes it can be done, but not realistically for every wheel. In my experience every wheel can be beaten one way or another, but a wheel being practical to beat is another story. In other words, if the wheel spins once every 5 minutes, you may not be able to get enough spins for reliable analysis by the time patterns change - so in that sense a wheel can be considered unbeatable. A wheel in the home environment and in casino environment are very different. Realistically you can beat approximately half of the wheels around in real casino environments and with bets before ball release. But to hugely varying degrees of difficulty. Some wheels are very easy to beat. Some are so hard to beat they're barely worth your time.

Generally auto wheels are easier to beat, but there are some auto wheels that you wouldnt touch - about a 50/50 split. If you email me I'll specify general requirements for evaluation, then send me spins and data I need, and I can give you an honest evaluation.

All the methods I teach are based on predicting sectors. They are all ballistic in nature. But many of the methods are well beyond traditional ballistics.
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