Lanky's Resignation and Thank You to the Members.

[WannaWin]

It is assumed that forum members should enter into shock state by not partaking this Gamlet numerolonomy nonsense?

Who cares if there are 1000 silent internal sub-forums of numeronologologies if it provides no benefit to members of the forum the contents of these? If I read it correctly, not even  those who were members of these groups obtained a benefit? What a shock must we other members are supposed to get then?

It is a pity to see that more people are not advocating the integrity of Mr. Victor now. He has always been there for us.

After all the bad mouth is not worth the bother.

Mr. Victor please make a separate forum for people to have a place where only good people is. I will support and publish systems only in that new forum.

Only few comments from good people worth more than the poisonous comments of 5,000 members.

[Mr J]

"besides the public gamlet site there were two other gamlet sites hidden from view.   Yes folks 3 sites in total right here on VLS" >>> I always thought that. Is it right? Well, yes and no. For the rookies, they need ALL the help they can get, thats the truth. Myself, I need little. I'll still be playing this game LONG after everyone else has gotten bored with it....or ran out of money. Thank you for the post LeBear! Long live West Allis.    Ken

[iggiv]

"The easiest being shoot the track link with a APR to disable it, a . 50 calibre round is very effective."

in the open field easy to disable a tank track with .50 calibre? The tank must be out of ammo, or the crew should be blind. А guy with .50 caliber to hit the track must be very close, and on this distance if he dares to open fire, in  the next few moments the pieces of the guy and his APR should be airborne.   


I dare to say that this tank is far from being disabled, it just needs some minor repairs. 
No point to use 120 mm against а toy-pistol. 

[WannaWin]

"besides the public gamlet site there were two other gamlet sites hidden from view.   Yes folks 3 sites in total right here on VLS"

OH YES! The shocking world-ending news! What were the other two numerolobotomy groups so disastrous apart from public view. #1.- Magical thinking systems and #2.- Magical belief systems?. Pleassseee. We read Gamlet public material. Who wants to delve into the ways of the magical forms and the ethereal shapes to stand a chance to overcome the hard physical game roulette is?

More harm to the forum to host the nonsense in public sections. If something did, Mr. Victor provided them a private space for them not to make fools of themselves in public because of themselves.

>>> Thank you for the post LeBear! Long live West Allis.   Ken

Yes, thank you for the post LeBear, be sure to run over Mr. Victor with your tank.

[WannaWin]

Sorry, I did not read well first time. Reading your former writing better it shows your intention with your single post is ending with Victor and what he worked for with this community:

"I use the example that Victor is a tank in the middle of mine field. Now there are a number of ways to kill a tank."

Do not worry. I think he was killed outside this forum already. No need to pass over him now.

WannaWin

[iggiv]

I don't think he is killed he is OK. I saw him in google chat not long ago  and tried to cheer him up, we had some good laugh actually.  he was laughing at my broken Spanish i tried to brag with. Don't u think that he was killed and burned on the stake completely by the Holy Inquisition 

[iggiv]

WannaWin, don't destroy my dream. I still hope someone will teach me a few  Mumbo-Jumbo words I could influence the ball with. Don't tell me that they are not workin. Something must work. Maybe somewhere is a genie in a bottle after all. Maybe there are some hand waving techniques to influence dealers. And there are always magic tricks with chips as with other subjects.

What does Holy Inquisition think of the matter? Would the flame-thrower work on casino? Оh, and I forgot about  .5 caliber...

[Jish]

lol

[WannaWin]

lol

YES LOL TO YOU TOO. Funny what they do?

Since iggiv suggests court is in session, lets add a bit more testimony shall we.   And let the jurors decide, jurors being the members.

    Now from Victors last post it appears he is not going to respond anymore.   Which is fine, and is his decision.   Being a military person, I use the example that Victor is a tank in the middle of mine field.   Now there are a number of ways to kill a tank.   The easiest being shoot the track link with a APR to disable it, a . 50 calibre round is very effective.   Now the tank is disabled, but it is still in the mine field, and the crew and it's commander are still in the tank.   Now a lot of options become open for all the players.   Victor being the commander, and the mods being the tank crew.   Surrender is one option, and the mods that left didn't exactly surrender by any means.   They are just annoyed that the commander got them all in the middle of a dam'n mine field so they got out of the tank.   They are now outside the tank and have been led away safely through the mine field.

    Now the commander is left with a skeleton crew, but the tank is still in the middle of the minefield.   Nothing has changed, just fewer players.   So the commander Victor, in a last ditch effort to try and save face, and the situation, resigns his command and turns it over to another guy in the tank being Steve.   The new guy in the tank is a new member of the tank crew and does not know up to this point what has happened in the past.

    So now the guys from the old crew are broadcasting over loud speakers informing the remaining crew that there actually are some real issues that  need to exposed.   Good or bad has no bearing, they just need to be made known.

    So in that light, and since Victor is developing what would appear to be amnesia, as a former tank crew memeber I am picking up the michrophone and making one last statement and final post.   Let the cards fall where they might.

  New testimony: besides the public gamlet site there were two other gamlet sites hidden from view.   Yes folks 3 sites in total right here on VLS.   Right before your eyes, or not.   Now let's see if other people come forward and tell you about the others, we shall all see together.

This is my first and last post as LeBear.   I wonder what the final verdict will be.

best regards,

LeBear

It is good to be the last post as LeBear. Now you should change user name to LeDog

I don't think he is killed he is OK. I saw him in google chat not long ago  and tried to cheer him up, we had some good laugh actually.  he was laughing at my broken Spanish I tried to brag with. Don't u think that he was killed and burned on the stake completely by the Holy Inquisition 

Are you sure is OK? As judged by its last message to me is not right. He said he would quit from the forum.

It is no matter to the many. Only two member vouching for Mr. Victor from more than 3500 members. Only 2 members you and me.

He protected me from legal problem coming from flamingtorch creator when I published and not provided my data as administrator. I am grateful.

I did not see the administrator star in his profile page today so it seems that is gone.

They should be happy to have launched him from his own created forum. They get what they deserve.

[WannaWin]

Maybe now the say is they are not to blame. That he should remain enduring without question whatever they want to throw up.

The bad people is always like that.

WannaWin

[iggiv]

yes I am sure he is OK. It is not his loss if he leaves this forum. It is our loss. In the return for his hard work he did here he did not get credit he deserves, so it is his right to get on with his own life without this forum. It is not a tragedy, the man for sure has his life without this forum as well. It is up to him to decide, he did his best. Even if some people think he made wrong decisions here.

Though I want to do my best to convince him to come back in case he really leaves. And yes, I agree with you, my friend, that he did not get a firm and  loud support here from forum members for what he created for them. Support which he really deserves.

I am gonna ask you though to refrain from conflicts with other forum members which did in our opinion a wrong thing to help a "witch hunt" in some way, deliberately or not. Everybody has a right for his own opinion. If LeBear thinks his way, he has right to think so. No need to insult him. I say he is wrong, in that sense I agree with you, but I don't think we should start personal conflicts here. And please no calling bad names.

My personal opinion is that some people made a GREAT MISTAKE being unfair to Victor. I don't think  they are evil or  something. And I think, that because of these mistakes they lost more than he did. If people lost his trust -- it is  their loss, not his. Remember, that man still has his hardcore good friends with him, and maybe he has some new good friends with him as well. I personally would be honored to be his new friend.

as for others who did that mistake by insulting him during some hard moment in his life -- it is their loss, not his. U don't get good friends every day in your life. Sometimes getting a good friend and creating a friendship is a process of many years, and destroying it easy -- u can do it within a minute, saying or doing something wrong.

think of this, people.

[iggiv]

but i still have a hope. They say -- time is a best doctor. I hope that with some time everything will calm down and will return to the way it should be. maybe.

[Steve]

Owner or not, I acknowledge I am still somewhat an outsider. I dont know all that happened previously. I said this to mods and that mods like lanky would make decisions when it came to banning. Now inadvertently decisions fall to me. But an outsider or not, I can clearly see a lot of talk in this thread is just a waste of energy.

Yes, anyone with access to the database (me and victor only) can read PMs. This is the case with any forum. If you dont accept this, dont have private information in PMs. But I'm not interested in reading about dirty laundry and doubt victor is either.

I am running the forum based on a balance between what the members want, and from my experience with the internet, what I believe is best for the forum. From experience I know what members want is NOT necessarily what is best for the forum. Unless a member is new and they break the rules, any bans are carefully considered. If I banned everyone I believe is merely counterproductive, then I believe this would make for a very narrow forum without diverse beliefs. But diverse beliefs in combination with open minds is the best way for everyone to learn and progress. Constantly ostracizing other members for their beliefs and direction of research is a sure way to be banned.

I read somewhere that something from the mod's section was sent in a PM. This is much more likely to be a moderator passing on posts than some kind of hacking. There were far too many mods here and such a leak could have come from anywhere.

I do not understand some people's problems with victor. He operated a forum. He took donations that kept the forum alive. The donations paid for hosting. Nothing paid for his time to manage the forum. The donations paid for the forum at that time. That was then, this is now. Unless a member made a large donation to support the forum for many months in advance, there should be no talk about donation refunds.

All my dealings with Victor have shown him to be an honest and sincere person. It is unfortunate he takes a lot of what people day to heart, rather than understand it is the poor understanding of some people that make them say hurtful things.

I personally think everyone should just get on with it. The time people spend on this stuff could be spent on research.

[Mr J]

@Steve >>> I already tried to get an answer but could not. Who are the CURRENT mods here?  Ken

[Steve]

@Steve >>> I already tried to get an answer but could not. Who are the CURRENT mods here?  Ken

If you ever want a clear and direct answer, ask a clear and direct question.

Current admin are me:

Me
Victor

Current mods are:
BerlinerBruce
bombus
rjeaton1
Shorty

[Steve]

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