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Player accounting between systems use

Started by WannaWin, July 04, 2008, 10:37:03 PM

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WannaWin

Question: if I use a system and win but never I return it to use and use soon another system. The roulette acquires the gain of system with another new system use?

Each system has its own gain count?

Example: use martingale in red-black and gain 100 dollars, soon change to play 1 number. The roulette knows what I have played to collect it back when roulette does not have memory?

If each system has its own accountant of gain then we use a system a little while and if we won as usual in the start of new system practice never we use it again and thus the roulette never clears the gain to us because never we use that particular system but another new one with its own fresh accountant of bets.

WannaWin

TwoCatSam

So, are we talking real wheel or RNG?  Matters to me before I think on your question.

Sam

WannaWin

Mr. TwoCatSam, thanks to take the time to respond.

I would like to know what is it considered of both possibilities but it interests more to me to debate the game of roulette in physical surroundings.

Perhaps you think that RNG = cheat and that records all the games in the memory of casino software. Then we better say a roulette of a real casino.. inanimate physical object and without a memory.

That is the question! No brain says no memory to recall the past. Then if the roulette does not have memory to remember what did previous spin for always present equal probability in current spin then are kept our gains from each system in a kind of memory that says we must lose when betting a system for a certain amount of balls?

If I change roulette one table can not say to the other table I won. Then can I say I start the system with fresh betting accounting at new roulette table?

I think and I see no reason why if something does not have memory is going to remember that we won and will make us lose.

I hope that it is understood to me and that the question is been worth time to answer as it is important to consider to only bet 1 system in 1 same table of roulette, to bet 1 system in different tables or to bet many different systems in many different tables as strategy.

Thanks.
WannaWin

TwoCatSam

Mr. Win

I know, because Gismotron told me, an RNG can remember every bet you ever made and every dollar you either won or lost.  He's a professional programmer.  I would venture bjb007 would agree.  Thus, an RNG system can decided you're doing too well and start hitting the numbers you did not cover.  It does not need to "learn" your system; just hit the open numbers.  Whether it actually does or not; that's another question.

I have a book wherein the author says, "The wheel has no memory, but we must act as if it did." 

R.D. Ellison speaks of statistical pressure, or the "wanting" of the wheel to produce an equal number of reds or blacks, odds or evens, ect.  I can tell you from studying thousands of real-casino spins, that any system will have peaks and valleys.  No system is all peaks although I've seen a few that were all valleys.

Here's how to win with such a system.  Know before you sit down that peaks and valleys will occur.  When you "feel" you're at the top of the peak, walk away.  When you're in a valley, remember a peak always follows.  Your bankroll and time should allow you to ride it out and reach the next peak and you should know from studying thousands of spins what the expectation is.  How long can you expect to remain in the valley; that is the real question!

This is not the sit-down-and-win; get-up-and-run mentality.

Now, since you own a working brain, I will propose a question for you:  If you spun a single wheel a million times and then spun a million wheels one time, would your results be the same?  Yes, we use the same dealer and the wheels are identical.  If wheel one was spun clockwise, wheel two was spun anti...

Sam

WannaWin

"The wheel has no memory, but we must act as if it did." 

Thanks for the debate. Then the memory of the roulette is something natural although we know that it does not have brain but that it must be there somehow or no limit for what we see is in place.

This goes to help to me since now I have long time in my hands and I am studying what focus is worth the trouble to put desire to it.

To beat and to run cannot be good because it is not to play with solid ground. To beat and to run = to play with fear. If something works it does not have to be. And what if the roulette beats to us instead of us to it? Get hit and cry?

I want to gain but not 1 session or 1 day only but sufficient to derive gain every month although some day it can be a bad one. That I cannot argue. Impossible to win all the games everyday then focus in win more days more money and lose less days little money.

If own personal numbers without concerning each roulette table are equal then better considering when one gambles not what place to gamble and to play much when it is personal peak and to play very little when it is a valley for us.

Perhaps it simply does not concern the roulette nor dealer but we ourselves only. Then we are like the system and the balls that we played would be our own system memory.

I consider day and night in the roulette. I have proven hundreds of systems. All almost win at the outset and always they lose in the end. I ask for that reason.

Thanks.
WannaWin

TwoCatSam

Wanna

I will share something with you a heard ages ago.  The player said:  "The system was working, but it quit."  The teacher said:  "You quit working the system."

I think it is easy to lose faith.  I have stated that it might be fun to take a brand new system and play with real money right out of the box.  Now I propose to you a question....

You and I buy system A and you are playing at TwoCat Casino.  You have won and decide to leave.  I sit down behind you and play the A system.  Am I destined to lose because you won? 

Another question:

Suppose you bought system B and played it for a month and it "quit working".  I just bought system B right after you stopped playing it.  I go to TwoCat Casino where you just played for a month.  Am I destined to lose?  The system is new to me!

Sam

TwoCatSam

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