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Randomness Effectiveness Versus Visual Ballistics Effectiveness

Started by gizmotron, April 19, 2010, 02:15:32 PM

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Spike!

but then make it sound as if randomness is sometimes random and sometimes not.>>

There are diferent states of randomness, but its always random. I've never said otherwise.

MiniBaccarat

G'day,

I don't understand why some of you can't / don't understand, misconstrue what Spike & Gizmo write!

For all this talk about 'Math', in my situation  the 'math' says my system HAS to win!

Logic tells me if I could do what Gizmo & Spike 'claim' they can do I would be better of than I am,
and I see no reason to disbelieve them at this time, the rest of you would also disbelieve me.

12 players (I take it the 13 was a banker) of the bat for me would be a 142 unit profit at $100 a unit.

Glenn.

Herb6

Then evidently you aren't understanding the math involved or you have made some mistakes when making your calculations.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Spike! on April 23, 2010, 05:03:05 PM
There are diferent states of randomness, but its always random. I've never said otherwise.

Randomness (as a process) is in one state: Random. There are no "different states of randomness", only different sequences of outcomes produced by it. It's all random noise (including both the "nice-looking" and the "chaotic-looking" sequences, those are only subjective human perceptions). Thinking otherwise is an illusion.

nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion

Spike!

no "different states of randomness", only different sequences of outcomes produced by it. >>

Different states, different sequences, its all in the eyes of the beholder.

winkel

Quote from: Spike! on April 23, 2010, 07:04:33 PM
no "different states of randomness", only different sequences of outcomes produced by it. >>

Different states, different sequences, its all in the eyes of the beholder.

especially when the beholder is blind

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on April 23, 2010, 06:52:20 PM
Randomness (as a process) is in one state: Random. There are no "different states of randomness", only different sequences of outcomes produced by it. It's all random noise (including both the "nice-looking" and the "chaotic-looking" sequences, those are only subjective human perceptions). Thinking otherwise is an illusion.

nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion

You tired old hags you. I've showed you "clustering analysis." But no. You have to drag up that old useless stuff that relates to your concepts that you think you understand. If there was ever a proper description for you Math Nazis it's got to be Clustering Illusion.

Randomness is one state, random, I agree with that. That's why its characteristic's, when tracking multiple past spins in sequence, go through identifiable states. It's not the randomness that matters. It's the trends in the characteristics that matter. Once again you aim to be logical but you end up missing completely. BTW, you don't know how to describe the characteristic or to read them. You have no clue of the importance of context. You are just stuck with your loser observations and your recruitment of followers that believe your junk science.

Spike!

It's not the randomness that matters. It's the trends in the characteristics that matter. >>>

Its breaking the random down and studying it and understanding it that gives you the edge.  Seeing it as one big jumbled mess is how 3 year old children see words on a page. Once they learn to break it down, they can read it.

Noble Savage

Yes well, good luck "reading randomness".

You may as well look at the clouds someday, see one that looks like a religious symbol and bow down to the ground: It's a sign from the Gods!

You two are amusing.

Spike!

Yes well, good luck "reading randomness".>>

Luck has nothing to do with it. Thats like telling a college grad 'good luck' in reading a book. Reading random is a skill, one that gets better with practice.

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on April 23, 2010, 09:48:22 PM
Yes well, good luck "reading randomness".

You may as well look at the clouds someday, see one that looks like a religious symbol and bow down to the ground: It's a sign from the Gods!

You two are amusing.

You two are not amusing. You are attempting to ride a white horse and wear a white cowboy hat. Everyone that takes your advice will look right past the only thing that works. I just expect a few to leave your advice behind. Just a few. I didn't look this way until I exhausted all I could with systems and progressions.

Spike!

I didn't look this way until I exhausted all I could with systems and progressions.>

I did just the opposite. I had never played roulette in my life and one day I was waiting for my wife to give all her money to the slots, and I started watching a roulette marquee. Beting  R/B in my head by looking at past spins, at the end of an hour I was ahead by 22 units. I thought 'how hard is this', I really thought it was how everybody played. I seriously did. So I started playing on my computer and getting better and better and I never even looked at progressions or systems until much later. Reading random was easy because I assumed it was, I had nobody telling me I couldn't until I started posting on forums.

gizmotron

Quote from: Spike! on April 23, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
Reading random was easy because I assumed it was, I had nobody telling me I couldn't until I started posting on forums.

Me too. I discovered it all before I ever went on the forums. I just understood guessing as to hot numbers and 2 out of 3 dozens or columns. Spike turned me on to strictly focusing on the EC's. But there was nobody telling me it was wrong.

MiniBaccarat

G'day,

Funnily enough,
after winding up my DJ business in '05 at the age of 43 & becoming a 'self funded' retiree I went to the only casino in Sydney to have the smorgasbord with my 'ex employees' / mates & while standing there watching a couple of them playing roulette I said ' you know what, if you could work out when a lot of the same colour is going to start and bet more on them & less when they're all over the place. It just progressed (pun intended) from there!
Funnily enough, I didn't know this was 'impossible'!

MiniBaccarat

G'day,
Quote from: Herb6 on April 23, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Then evidently you aren't understanding the math involved or you have made some mistakes when making your calculations.

SHHHH, Don't tell the casino's, clubs, baccarat cards, roulette, craps & sic BO tables, balls & dice!
They don't know that you understand my system better than I and some present & former members of vls do.

Maybe you have a different set of decisions than we've ever see or played yet,
but as my system only needs anywhere in a 200 decisions block to have a r,r,r,r
OR b,b,b,b OR r,b,r,b OR b,r,b,r occur to win we'll just keep playing for now.

I guess like I can't, 'read randomness', do 'AP (cough) or VB', some people can't harness 'progressive systems'!






MiniBaccarat

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