Hey VB Players: You've Been Busted!!

[Spike!]

A month ago I noticed one the casinos that has an airball machine had set it so the ball didn't hit the track till after the timer ran out. Now all the airball's in all my local casinos have done it. I asked the kid who's 2nd shift slot tech manager tonight and he said IGT did it. In March they got an email memo from IGT telling them the airball machines had been targeted all over the US by 'Visual Ballistics teams' (his words) and they would be receiving software to change the machines so no bets could be placed after the ball was released. So because of your silly assed GREED, we are all paying the price. Now I don't get 60 spins an hour, I only get 50. Thanks a lot.

I asked if they can take advantage of when the wheel is out of balance and he said the airball wheels are checked by sensors after every spin by a computer and shut down if not within tolerance. So, BUSTED you greedy wankers, nice job all around.

[Spike!]

The fact that Herb didn't reply to this thread means he already knows its going on. Right, Herb?

[Kelly]

Already in August 2009 Mike Barnett was aware of the Alpha streets and its opportunitys, and from that point on i knew it would come to an end sooner or later.  "Swept by several VB teams" is a bit of an overstatement, you were talking to the management who was giving an excuse for the new changes. "A few", rather than "several" is more likely and to my knowledge some of them were not VB players but was "helped" a little bit.

[Spike!]

 "A few", rather than "several" is more likely >>>

Whatever the reason its now down to 50 spins an hour and not 60. Its barely better than Rapid Roulette.

[bombus]

So because of your silly assed GREED, we are all paying the price. Now I don't get 60 spins an hour, I only get 50. Thanks a lot.  

Are you absolutely for real, Spike?

In one simple sentence you have completely hypocrisized (is that even a word?) yourself to our entire roulette community.

Here is a man (this has yet to be verified, in fact all the superfluous facial hair that keeps popping up in spikes avatars makes me wonder if there might not be a bit of penis envy going on there) with an unequaled ability to correctly select EC outcomes at 72%, yes that's right, not a typo, 72%! Who is spitting the dummy at the "GREEDY" VB Gods because they chopped 10 spins an hour off "her" sessions.

Think about it... Spike always bets, practically never skips a spin, and maintains a 72% guaranteed strike rate. That's 36 winning bets in 50 spins, which, thanks to the GREEDY VB Gods is all poor Spike gets now in one lousy hour.

Big arsed strike rate = 72%

60 bets per hour at $100 with 43 winners = $2600 profit!

50 bets per hour at $100 with 36 winners = $2200 profit!

50 bets per hour at $120 with 36 winners = $2640 profit!

So all poor old Spike has to do is increase the stake by 20% and get the flock out of there in 1 hour with the same earnings.

You GREEDY VB assholes!

Hahahahahahaha!








   

[moles40]

Are you absolutely for real, Spike?

In one simple sentence you have completely hypocrisized (is that even a word?) yourself to our entire roulette community.

Here is a man (this has yet to be verified, in fact all the superfluous facial hair that keeps popping up in spikes avatars makes me wonder if there might not be a bit of penis envy going on there) with an unequaled ability to correctly select EC outcomes at 72%, yes that's right, not a typo, 72%! Who is spitting the dummy at the "GREEDY" VB Gods because they chopped 10 spins an hour off "her" sessions.

Think about it... Spike always bets, practically never skips a spin, and maintains a 72% guaranteed strike rate. That's 36 winning bets in 50 spins, which, thanks to the GREEDY VB Gods is all poor Spike gets now in one lousy hour.

Big arsed strike rate = 72%

60 bets per hour at $100 with 43 winners = $2600 profit!

50 bets per hour at $100 with 36 winners = $2200 profit!

50 bets per hour at $120 with 36 winners = $2640 profit!

So all poor old Spike has to do is increase the stake by 20% and get the flock out of there in 1 hour with the same earnings.

You GREEDY VB assholes!

Hahahahahahaha!








   

That's funny.The thing all Spike has to do is prove what he has been mouthing off about the past few years in different roulette forums.

Its easy Spike all you have to do is invite a load of us forum guys here at vls to meet you in Vegas and show us your incredible 72% strike rate on the even chances,which gives you over an 20% edge over the house.

You dont have to tell us how you do it Spike,all you do is walk over to one of the nice plush roulette tables in the MGM  Grand if thats all ok,their is lots of space in the MGM  so plenty of room for the mass of crowds who will be rushing to see the man who can guess the EC bets correct 72% of the time,and bets on every spin of the wheel .

Even the double zero wheel makes no different to Spike its still the same 72% strike-rate so lets meet you in Vegas and watch you play every spin of the wheel for an hour and watch this amazing 20% edge you have over the house by making "educated guesses" on the wheel

[A3on47]

@Bombus
Nice one LMAO

[Spike!]

In one simple sentence you have completely>>

Sigh. When I'm in the casino, I always record 150 spins for my record of actuals from a 0/00 wheel. So when I'm done playing I stay until I have the spins I need. There is nowhere on the net to get RELIABLE 0/00 spin results, so I get my own. But now I have to stay a half hour longer because I only get 50 an hour. What used to take 2 1/2 hours now takes 3 hours. I also share these spins with 2 other serious players and they're damned glad to get them.

Anything else you need to know?

[Noble Savage]

@Bombus: lol. Amazing isn't he?

There is nowhere on the net to get RELIABLE 0/00 spin results

I can get a million 0/00 spins a day. It's called Random.org

Just set the integers between 0 and 37 (and then treat 37 as a 00).

[Spike!]

I can get a million 0/00 spins a day. It's called Random.org>

Sigh. Those are from atmospheric noise, not a real 0/00 wheel. They work fine for testing but are not the real thing. The numbers from an airball wheel are not exactly the same as those from a dealer spun wheel. So if I want to play airball exclusively, I need actual spins from an airball wheel to test with. Duh.

You will never get any of this because you don't have a winnng method or system. All actuals are not created equal, but to the untrained eye, they are identical. I can see the difference in testing, you would see nothing. Not my problem. Thats why the other 2 players I send them to are so appreciative, airball actuals aren't available anywhere. Its like comparing a common violin and a Stradivarious, only an expert can hear the difference.

[Steve]

1. What the casinos do (countermeasures) gives you clues as to how roulette is legitimately beatable, and what they are/aren't worried about. I've seen tables with a $500 limit for inside bets, and a $50,000 limit for outside bets. Sectors, perhaps?

2. For every 1 consistent winner, there are perhaps 1000+ consistent losers. A single consistent loser can make up for that 1 anomaly (the winner), and if the winner bets much bigger than the others, they are easily identified and banned.

If there's something that speeds up the game (nmb after ball release), it is more economical/profitable for casinos to allow it, even if there is the occasional winner. A smart casino that does the math knows the best thing for them to do is work on identification of consistent winners, not making things like VB impossible. Even if nmb was called before ball release, there are still legitimate ways (not just bias) to beat the wheel, and it will always be this way (long term spins) as long as wheel properties remain the same - irrespective of ball release points. That might seem like it defies logic, but you need to think along the terms of long term, not individual spins.

PS - Spike, calling VB players or anyone "greedy wankers" is not the kind of language I want around here. You are contributing but please relax.

[bombus]

Ok Spike, sorry.

In that case you need to stop treating obstacles as negative circumstance.

Try to turn it around and use the extra half hour to your advantage... perhaps some yogic breathing exercises while collecting the final ½ hour of numbers. Some pelvic floor muscle contractions as well.

When embraced, this extra ½ hour could end up adding years to your life!

[Spike!]

A smart casino that does the math knows the best thing for them to do is work on identification of consistent winners>>>

What makes you think casinos are smart? All they can think of doing is making it as hard as possible to beat their games. Identifying consistant winners takes effort, they would rather make it so consistant winners are as small a problem as possible. A lot of casinos have learned to tolerate card counters, if they don't win much. But most still throw them out on their ear.

>>calling VB players or anyone "greedy wankers" is not >>>

Spoken just after I got home from the casino, I've since gotten over it. Can we have a hug, then, and forget it was said at all...

[Steve]

Spike I'm not sure about a hug. I might get fleas off that beard of yours. But I'm sure everyone can get over it.

As for casinos being smart of dumb, here's my take: Most staff have very little understanding of roulette and how it is beatable. Some flat dont believe it can be beaten except under exceptional circumstances like a heavily biased wheel, which is great. Some staff, albeit very few, are properly trained and know from a player's behavior alone if the player is a professional. Professional players are usually a step ahead of casino staff when it comes to understanding roulette which is because such players spend their time trying to understand roulette, whereas staff spend time on other things. All up, casino staff are not dumb - they are in general quite ignorant, but no more ignorant than the rest of the population about other matters. But there are of course other staff that know better.

[Noble Savage]

Those are from atmospheric noise, not a real 0/00 wheel. They work fine for testing but are not the real thing. The numbers from an airball wheel are not exactly the same as those from a dealer spun wheel. So if I want to play airball exclusively, I need actual spins from an airball wheel to test with. Duh.

lol so if I post 10 txt files here each one full of 0/00 spins, and tell you one of them contains real wheel spins, and the rest are from Random.org, will you be able to identify the one with the real wheel data?

No you won't, because you don't know what you're talking about.

Funny that you now say random.org data is not like a real wheel's, because this is what you said in "the Zone" thread:

From the random.org site: " RANDOM.ORG offers true random numbers to anyone on the Internet. The randomness comes from atmospheric noise"

Why all the confusion, just go there and look. Its true random, just like the wheel.

[Noble Savage]

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