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IS IT POSSIBLE TO WIN ON E/C----LD-DBL-OPPOS---PUNTING ALL 3 SIMULTANEOSLY

Started by medo, May 07, 2010, 07:24:16 AM

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medo

It's a brainstorming,but very straigh forward and serious question.
I say it's possible,furthermore/cause of randomness/claiming
it can not lose.BUT HOW??????

A3on47

Hello Medo :)

You need a very good bet selection for that.
And I don't think it's possible  :-\

buffalowizard

Hi medo, could you explain a little more about the bet selection you mention.......LD Double and opposite? cheers

Noble Savage

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IS IT POSSIBLE TO WIN ON E/C----LD-DBL-OPPOS---PUNTING ALL 3 SIMULTANEOSLY

The fact is that the 3 EC's produce 3 independent streams of random outcomes. Sure they overlap with each other, but only about 50% (or so), so there is no real correlation between the streams of outcomes.

Example:

Red/Black overlap with Low/High with about 50% (meaning 50% of Reds are Low, 50% of Reds are High, etc.etc.).

But it doesn't mean anything, the randomness of Red/Black outcomes and Low/High outcomes is not correlated. They are two completely independent streams of random outcomes. So if for instance you get 5 Reds, it doesn't mean Low will be appearing a lot soon; and if you bet Red and Low simultaneously, it doesn't mean that if one of them loses, the other will recover, because you can still get Black-High's anytime. (in other words the variance is not reduced)

Conclusion:

If you have a system that bets on all EC's simultaneously, then testing it for 1000 bets would absolutely be the same as testing the system on just one EC for 3000 bets. No difference whatsoever, and this can be proved.

If you can't beat one EC, you won't beat the three at once.

buffalowizard

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 08, 2010, 10:06:36 AM
The fact is that the 3 EC's produce 3 independent streams of random outcomes. Sure they overlap with each other, but only about 50% (or so), so there is no real correlation between the streams of outcomes.

Example:

Red/Black overlap with Low/High with about 50% (meaning 50% of Reds are Low, 50% of Reds are High, etc.etc.).

But it doesn't mean anything, the randomness of Red/Black outcomes and Low/High outcomes is not correlated. They are two completely independent streams of random outcomes. So if for instance you get 5 Reds, it doesn't mean Low will be appearing a lot soon; and if you bet Red and Low simultaneously, it doesn't mean that if one of them loses, the other will recover, because you can still get Black-High's anytime. (in other words the variance is not reduced)

Conclusion:

If you have a system that bets on all EC's simultaneously, then testing it for 1000 bets would absolutely be the same as testing the system on just one EC for 3000 bets. No difference whatsoever, and this can be proved.

If you can't beat one EC, you won't beat the three at once.

Of course youre right. But why bother?

medo

This has nothing to do with Jordan bet,but just a question to you all,on which nobody actually unswered.
BTW-it would consist of 9 different punting stakes......at the same time.
But still ask if anybody believes this could work.

medo

Quote from: Jordan27 on May 08, 2010, 11:01:59 AM
just play the hydra.
it has the best bet selection and the best progression board.
Jordan,
Am acquainted with that bet,but this is something totally different.
Just asking ppl.if that would be possible.


buffalowizard

we would say more medo if you told us something about your system/bet selection - at the moment we know next to nothing

medo

Quote from: buffalowizard on May 08, 2010, 12:45:02 PM
we would say more medo if you told us something about your system/bet selection - at the moment we know next to nothing

I thought its self explanatory;
betting LD-PENULTIMATE--OPPOSITE--on any E/C at the same time,
in other words beting on red-black and penultimate at the same time.
I can see a winning road in here,can you??????

BUT ABOUT HOW....we should disc. it later.

buffalowizard

Sorry mate must be me....still dont have a clue. Any chance of showing us some spins and how it would work out?

GLC

Quote from: medo on May 08, 2010, 12:54:18 PM
I thought its self explanatory;
betting LD-PENULTIMATE--OPPOSITE--on any E/C at the same time,
in other words beting on red-black and penultimate at the same time.
I can see a winning road in here,can you??????

BUT ABOUT HOW....we should disc. it later.

Medo,

How does LD-Penultimate--Opposite--on any E/C at the same time = bet on R-B and penultimate at the same time?

Maybe the first question to answer is what does LD stand for?

Also confused,  George

iggiv

Quote from: medo on May 07, 2010, 07:24:16 AM
It's a brainstorming,but very straigh forward and serious question.
I say it's possible,furthermore/cause of randomness/claiming
it can not lose.BUT HOW??????



in my humble opinion -- don't waist your time with EC systems. Even the best of them lose. I tried so many. They looked so smart. They all go down, just matter of time.


betting single numbers based on wheel layout -- way to go

medo

Quote from: GLC on May 20, 2010, 11:23:41 AM
Medo,

How does LD-Penultimate--Opposite--on any E/C at the same time = bet on R-B and penultimate at the same time?

Maybe the first question to answer is what does LD stand for?

Also confused,  George

                    LD/last decision/                    opposite                           DBL/penultimate/

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15--next spin bet                      1-                                      1+                                            1-
3                                               2-                                      1+                                            2+                    0-
14                                             3+                                     1-                                             1-                     1+
                                                                             end of session----------------restart a new game from 1

Hope you grasp it now

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You get 3 ec using one ec if you apply 1/3 with 3 independent streams and it does not change any-thing ...

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