The Hunting 9's System

[buffalowizard]

This is a system I think has potential but I need opinions and tweaks from you guys.

I split the layout into 4 blocks of 9

Block 1 = 1-9
Block 2 = 10-18
Block 3 = 19-27
Block 4 = 28-36

The trick is to find the 9 block that repeats. On average, the repeat comes between 1 and 9. Occasionally it comes between 10 and 15, and quite rarely 16+

So, the conundrum is: when and how long to bet for, and which is the best progression for such a bet? The sheer volume of hits between 1 and 9 make it worth a look at.

A quick sample test:

14 ....so bet block 2 next bet
24 ....loss, so bet block 3 next bet
15.....bet block 2
9 .... bet block 1
3 ......Win

That was a very typical win on bet 4

See what you think

[buffalowizard]

Here's some spins:

7    = trigger
12
10  = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 2 bets
27  = trigger
36
17
33
11
18  = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 5 bets
2    =trigger
29
18
18  = repeat. Win in Block 2 after 3 spins
9    =  trigger
0
24
0
36
34  = repeat. Win in Block 4 after 5 spins
17  = trigger
4
3    = repeat. Win in Block 1 after 2 spins.
9    =trigger
36
35  = repeat. Win in Block 4 after 2 spins

So if we broke that down into amounts of spins before a hit, it would look like this:

2
5
3
5
2
2

This is useful in analysing the average hit range.

[WARRIOR]

your first sample is not like your second  the first seems your following the last and in the second your using a trigger and staying on that untill it hits wich one do you use .

[atlantis]

Brilliant buffalowizard!

Works well with the same progression for "4-Step" too.

After a win switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)

After a max of 5 spins (betting 3 street block) switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)

Thanks for sharing,
A.

[buffalowizard]

your first sample is not like your second  the first seems your following the last and in the second your using a trigger and staying on that untill it hits wich one do you use .

Warrior all I'm doing is betting the previous 9 block. After a hit, I wait one new spin in which to start a new round of betting.

so if 36 spun, my next bet would be block 4. If 34 then spun, I would win! I then wait one spin (trigger) before continuing

We are looking for repeating blocks of 9

[WARRIOR]

gotcha thanx

[buffalowizard]

Brilliant buffalowizard!

Works well with the same progression for "4-Step" too.

After a win switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)

After a max of 5 spins (betting 3 street block) switch on to next NEW trigger block (if necessary wait for trigger to occur in different block to previous block bet first)

Thanks for sharing,
A.

That's why I posted Atlantis. I was having success with this, but the runs of sometimes 15-19 without a hit was killing me. Your progression may save this beast

[buffalowizard]

Taken from wiesbaden 17 may table 3 - sample 200 spins approx

Amount of spins before a repeated block:

1
7
6
14
4
3
2
2
2
1
8
12
2
12
2
12
2
1
2
3
2
2
2
6

it's handling the double figures that is key!

[atlantis]

The only modifications I did was to move back 2 places in the progression if still not level or behind after a win
I waited for trigger in new block to previous betted block first before betting.

CASINO WIESBADEN 17 MAY 2010 - Table 3
==================================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,31,Bet,3,12,-3,9,509,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
3,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
4,23,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
5,0,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
6,34,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,500,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
7,11,Bet,3,12,-3,9,509,1 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
8,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
9,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
10,2,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
11,20,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,500,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
12,4,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,497,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
13,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
14,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
15,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
16,8,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,488,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
17,7,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,482,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
18,9,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,476,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
19,0,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,470,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
20,2,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,464,2 : (10-12)(13-15)(16-18)
21,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
22,8,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,455,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
23,11,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,446,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
24,9,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,437,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
25,20,Bet,9,36,-9,27,464,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
26,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
27,11,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,455,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
28,21,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,446,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
29,1,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,437,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
30,12,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,428,3 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
31,32,Bet,12,48,-12,36,464,4 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
32,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
33,4,Bet,9,36,-9,27,491,3 : (1-3)(4-6)(7-9)
34,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
35,12,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,482,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
36,19,Bet,9,36,-9,27,509,3 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
37,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
38,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
39,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,506,1 : (22-24)(25-27)(28-30)
40,26,Bet,3,12,-3,9,515,1 : (22-24)(25-27)(28-30)
41,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,515,
42,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,515,
43,36,Bet,3,12,-3,9,524,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
44,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
45,26,Bet,3,12,-3,9,533,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
46,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,533,
47,33,Bet,3,12,-3,9,542,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
48,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,542,
49,3,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,539,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
50,20,Bet,3,12,-3,9,548,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
51,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,548,
52,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,545,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
53,16,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,542,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
54,36,Bet,3,12,-3,9,551,1 : (28-30)(31-33)(34-36)
55,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,551,
56,24,Bet,3,12,-3,9,560,1 : (19-21)(22-24)(25-27)
[/table]

+60 pts

Yes handling the double figure stats is the key. Will have to think - but remember better to switch block as in above session after max of 5 spins...



A.

[buffalowizard]

Hi Atlantis, great testing as ever mate. Well done.

Your selection differs from my version, but the results will be the same I'm sure. It's all 9 numbers after all.

My bet is to find a repeat of every last Block. Yours is to stick with the trigger Block until it hits. It's all good!

[buffalowizard]

The following is the standard 9 number progression, which is what I was using originally. I would try and bet between 1 and 5. A loss of 7 units if it went over.
This failed to work, as it could easily hit on the 7th, 6th and 8th consecutively for example.

1 . 1.  1.  2.  2.  3.  4.  5.  7.  9. 12. 16.  22. 30.

I think if we use Atlantis' progression, but only bet between, say 2 and 6, then we could be onto a winner. Look at the amount of hits between 2 and 6 we have already and you see why

[buffalowizard]

Here are the numbers of when a winning repeat occurred. This is using Atlantis' way of hunting the 9's and switching after 5 losses to the next new Block:

session 1: 7 2 4 2 5 7 5 3 2 5 5 7 4 4 6 5 3 2 3

session 2: 2 4 4 8 5 2 4 3 5 5 2 6 4 4 3 6 4 3 5 1 4 6 2 6

session 3: 4 3 6 2 6 2 4 4 2 1 3 8 1 8 3 3 5

session 4: 1 4 4 3 7 1 (12) 2 1 1

session 5: 2 1 1 6 9 (21) 3 5 5 (10) 6 3 2 4 1 2 4

session 6: 2 6 6 2 6 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 8 7 6 2

session 7: 7 3 2 4 7 1 7 2 3 2 2 9 3 5 4 1

session 8: 1 1 8 3 2 1 (17) 3 1 2 (15) 2 1 3 3 1 (10) (16) 6 1 4 2

session 9: 2 3 (14) 3 8 3 2 1 (13) 8 2 2 2 1 4

Those are results from approx. 1000 spins.

Now if we are only betting to hit and win between the 2nd and 6th spin then that would mean we dodge the occasional long run (such as the mammoth 21 in session 5).

In fact the worst session, if betting this way, would be session 8. We would go to the 15th leg of Atlantis' progression. But the beauty of his progression means that this really isn't a massive loss at all.

In all the sessions above, if someone could help me out here, a decent profit would have been made in almost all sessions above and only minor losses in 1, possibly 2?

This system is nice too, especially for those who don't like hanging around, because there are quicker hits and more plays.

Any comments or testing welcomed

[dhoola]

   BET   WIN   NET   BLOCK
36            
1   -3   0   -3   4
8   -3   0   -3   4
28   -3   12   9   4
32         0   
4   -3   0   -3   4
8   -3   0   -3   4
8   -3   0   -3   
14   -3   0   -3   
27   -3   12   9   
34         0   
29   -3   12   9   4
19         0   
9   -3   0   -3   3
26   -3   12   9   3
1         0   
24   -3   0   -3   1
16   -3   0   -3   1
4   -3   12   9   1
31         0   
7   -3   0   -3   4
2   -3   0   -3   4
16   -3   0   -3   4
4   -3   0   -3   4
0   -3   0   -3   4
0         0   
31         0   
9   -3   0   -3   4
7   -3   0   -3   4
36   -3   12   9   4


--------------------------------

Hi Buffalowizard,

This is a very small test. I used flat betting.

31 spins +6 Units..

I have one more set of spins..I will test.   These spins are taken from this forum.

[dhoola]

   BET   WIN    NET
         
11         
5   -3   12   9
5         0
2   -3   12   9
34         0
17   -3   0   -3
8   -3   0   -3
27   -3   12   9
24         0
2   -3      -3
13   -3      -3
19   -3   12   9
9         0
2   -3   12   9
21         0
25   -3   12   9
11         0
29   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
8   -3   12   9
32         0
32   -3   12   9
34         0
32   -3   12   9
19         0
34   -3   0   -3
17   -3   0   -3
1   -3   0   -3
15   -3   0   -3
13   -3   0   -3
24         0
9   -3   0   -3
7   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
25   -3   12   9
0         0
18         0
25   -3   0   -3
30   -3   0   -3
7   -3   0   -3
26   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
9         0
30   -3   0   -3
14   -3   0   -3
30   -3   0   -3
19   -3   0   -3
19   -3   0   -3
20         0
15   -3   0   -3
36   -3   0   -3
11   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
26   -3   12   9
20         0
30   -3   0   -3
3   -3   0   -3
31   -3   0   -3
23   -3   12   9
27         0
0   -3   0   -3
32   -3   0   -3
10   -3   0   -3
18   -3   0   -3
23   -3   12   9
3         0
13   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
18   -3   0   -3
4   -3   12   9
26         0
1   -3   0   -3
8   -3   0   -3
16   -3   0   -3
5   -3   0   -3
26   -3   12   9
23         0
20   -3   12   9
3         0
13   -3   0   -3
12   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
27   -3   0   -3
2   -3   12   9
36         0
9   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
32   -3   12   9
17         0
31   -3   0   -3
27   -3   0   -3
16   -3   12   9
32         0
22   -3   0   -3
12   -3   0   -3
14   -3   0   -3
23   -3   0   -3

--------------------------------

This time I played for 100 spins and  the result is +6 Units.. 
As I mentioned earlier, I'm not using any progression. But, I guess if we use a decent progression results can be very good..

[buffalowizard]

   BET   WIN    NET
         
11         
5   -3   12   9
5         0
2   -3   12   9
34         0
17   -3   0   -3
8   -3   0   -3
27   -3   12   9
24         0
2   -3      -3
13   -3      -3
19   -3   12   9
9         0
2   -3   12   9
21         0
25   -3   12   9
11         0
29   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
8   -3   12   9
32         0
32   -3   12   9
34         0
32   -3   12   9
19         0
34   -3   0   -3
17   -3   0   -3
1   -3   0   -3
15   -3   0   -3
13   -3   0   -3
24         0
9   -3   0   -3
7   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
25   -3   12   9
0         0
18         0
25   -3   0   -3
30   -3   0   -3
7   -3   0   -3
26   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
9         0
30   -3   0   -3
14   -3   0   -3
30   -3   0   -3
19   -3   0   -3
19   -3   0   -3
20         0
15   -3   0   -3
36   -3   0   -3
11   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
26   -3   12   9
20         0
30   -3   0   -3
3   -3   0   -3
31   -3   0   -3
23   -3   12   9
27         0
0   -3   0   -3
32   -3   0   -3
10   -3   0   -3
18   -3   0   -3
23   -3   12   9
3         0
13   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
18   -3   0   -3
4   -3   12   9
26         0
1   -3   0   -3
8   -3   0   -3
16   -3   0   -3
5   -3   0   -3
26   -3   12   9
23         0
20   -3   12   9
3         0
13   -3   0   -3
12   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
27   -3   0   -3
2   -3   12   9
36         0
9   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
0   -3   0   -3
32   -3   12   9
17         0
31   -3   0   -3
27   -3   0   -3
16   -3   12   9
32         0
22   -3   0   -3
12   -3   0   -3
14   -3   0   -3
23   -3   0   -3

--------------------------------

This time I played for 100 spins and  the result is +6 Units..  
As I mentioned earlier, I'm not using any progression. But, I guess if we use a decent progression results can be very good..

Hi Dhoola

Thanks for taking an interest. I for one, think that this has a lot of potential. Your flat betting results are very encouraging.

As I mentioned before, using Atlantis' progression for my 4 step system could work brilliantly with this.

1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5... etc...

On a win (say it was on the third bet of 3) and you are still behind, instead of incrementing stake by 1 unit for next qualifier, continue betting on the next qualifier from that last win point eg: third bet of 3

Stops stakes rising faster and still good.

Lets keep testing with this

[buffalowizard]

-