Are the encyclopedias and mathematicians correct?

[Herb6]

Steve,

I simply don't believe your claims.  Sorry.  I can quite effectively see what's real and what's not.  I'm amazed that you would make such and outrageous claim like that because it effects your credibility.  Nobody can beat the ECs.

[Spike!]

I simply don't believe your claims.  Sorry.  I can quite effectively see what's real and what's not.>>>

LOL! I made a bet with myself and I won! Herb is more predictable than the sun coming up. His blinders are so super glued to his face that nothing can remove them..

[Steve]

I simply don't believe your claims.  Sorry.  I can quite effectively see what's real and what's not.  I'm amazed that you would make such and outrageous claim like that because it effects your credibility.  Nobody can beat the ECs.

Did you read my post? I said I am not able to beat ECs, but I believe it is possible, just not with the traditional methods players try.

As for you effectively seeing what's real and what's not, again with all due respect, you dont know everything. The day you think something is impossible is the day you make it impossible, for you. What I'm talking about is real and legitimate science, and if you knew more you would understand this. I dont deal with hocus pocus. Perhaps you should have a read of "living energies" and research into nolinks.genuinewinner.com/waves.pdf then decide if I dont know what I'm talking about, or if you still have more to learn. We all have more to learn, but I've been working on energy research for 20 or so years. Nothing is ever random, and real wheels are exploitable well beyond traditional advantage play.

[Spike!]

Nothing is random, and there is always order>>>

I think there is a loose order in the true random of a roueltte wheel. Not so a computer RNG, I see no order there that can be exploited.

[Herb6]

As for you effectively seeing what's real and what's not, again with all due respect, you dont know everything. The day you think something is impossible is the day you make it impossible, for you. What I'm talking about is real and legitimate science, and if you knew more you would understand this.

Sorry Steve,

But when it pertains to roulette, I sure as hell do.

[Spike!]

again with all due respect, you dont know everything.>>>

Steve, have you ever actully spoken with Herb on the phone like I have? He really DOES know everything, as he will proceed to tell you. Anything you say back is met with uproarious laughter. You think I'm joking?

[Spike!]

But when it pertains to roulette, I sure as hell do. (know everything)>>>

See? How can you argue with that? He's happy in his ignorance, which is fine with me.

[bombus]

Randomness in regard to roulette is in my view an untamable beast.

It is randomness that creates the resulting math by which the game overcomes all attempts to tame it.

IMO it is an irrepressible force, and to try and second guess what random will do for this period or that period is an exercise in futility.

As has been stated by various members here, to try and skip over bad runs will result in missing out on wins just as much as missing out on losses. So in time guessing when to bet and when not to bet is no different to guessing what to bet. Randomness by its very nature will blithely circumvent both.

The absolute strength of random's relentless attack on our bankrolls is wholly contained within its unpredictability. But to be unpredictable random must for the most part behave in a disorderly fashion.

To bring about its disorderly array, random is obliged to sporadically clump numbers together; if it did not do this the game would be easily beaten. It is within this clumping of numbers together that every one of us seeks our victories.

You can name it as you please - law of the third, wheel bias, pattern recognition, grand universal theory, numerology, educated guessing, whatever... they all attempt the same thing – to jump on the clump.

And therein lays its only possible weakness...clumpiness. But we can't predict it. We know the numbers will clump, but we don't know when, how many, or how long. May be we just need to surrender to the fact that there will be periods of sustained clumping and the only math that matters then is that you have more chips on the table at that time....

So that leaves three words to beat roulette... LET IT RIDE.



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[Steve]

But when it pertains to roulette, I sure as hell do.

Herb it is very ignorant and naive to claim and actually think you know everything. Nobody ever knows everything. There is so much you, and all of us, just dont know. It is counterproductive for anyone to believe they know everything. Pride is a barrier to progress. I have nothing even remotely against you personally, and am not in the least offended by you not believing what I've said because I know you are actually wrong. But so be it, no problem with agreeing to disagree.

[Spike!]

Herb it is very ignorant and naive to claim and actually think you know everything. Nobody ever knows everything. There is so much you, and all of us, just dont know.>>>

Igrorance is bliss, Steve.

[Spike!]

>>But to be unpredictable random must for the most part behave in a disorderly fashion.>>

Disorderly to who? Speak for yourself..

[bombus]

>>But to be unpredictable random must for the most part behave in a disorderly fashion.>>

Disorderly to who? Speak for yourself..

I just did.

For myself it is disorderly...

It does not go 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 (orderly), it goes 1-16-4-28-8-28-13-2-0(disorderly).   

[Steve]

Herb, EVERYTHING follows a waveform - EVERYTHING. The universe is not brick and mortar like we often perceive. Think of the universe for what it is - a symphony of harmonic waveforms and energy interactions. There is no such thing as random - including roulette spins. The question is whether or not spins can be predicted with enough accuracy to overcome the house edge, even with "randomized" release points and scatter. The answer is absolutely YES - long term trends do occur, and can be utilized for prediction. Clearly you dont believe me, and again so be it, but it is absolutely real.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
   Arthur Schopenhauer

[gizmotron]

Nothing is random, and there is always order - always cause and effect - to state otherwise is saying things happen without reason or cause.

I once thought that there might be a reason, like how the numbers are arranged on the wheel. The truth is things are random by plain old coincidence. You take a run of reds, 3,16,27,18,34,5,18,23,... etc. It just circumstantial coincidence. Otherwise the wheel mechanism is flawed in some way. Wheel bias was a problem but it is no longer an issue. At least from a standpoint of effectively capitalizing on it. Roulette is random. The numbers come up randomly. Some of us can construct data fields that are sets of differing coincidences. While a run on reds might be inactive a run of odd numbers might be dominating. Same goes for hot numbers, zeros sleeping, and dozens going absent for a while. It's just phenomenon. It's not caused by angels in a third heaven. There are no ball and slot attractions caused by a law of the universe principle. And even if it was possible it's irrelevant to the randomness trackers. You can't see something that you are not looking at. To see randomness you have to be looking at it.

[Herb6]

Prove it.  Put up some real money and let's see if anyone here has guts to prove they can win on the ECs.















Anybody? 



And that's my point.

-Herb

[Herb6]

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