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Started by Spike!, June 03, 2010, 06:50:32 PM

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gizmotron

Quote from: MiniBaccarat on June 04, 2010, 12:36:01 AM
This is what I'm ALWAYS saying, my mechanical progression trend (based) system finds trends and then bets more as the trend continues and if it hasn't covered the outstanding amount by the time the trend stops it just waits for the next run and starts again!

Glenn.

What you are doing might be a little different. I'm betting minimum risk at minimum table limits. Only when I come out of downturns and see a winning streak starting up do I increase to a high flat bet. I played for hours today at a casino. I went through both types of stretches and left after I reached my goal. The first thing that happened was a big loss streak. I lost every bet for at least seven spins in a row. But that turned around.

Now you might be saying that you attempt to use your progression at targeted times, because of acceptable conditions. Randomness treats progressions very badly. Having two flat bet levels is easier on the variance.

Spike!

Quote from: bombus on June 04, 2010, 12:50:37 AM
I'll do you, Jimmy!

You're confusing VLS with your other forum, Bombus, 'Real Men in Leather'. :haha:


bombus

Quote from: MiniBaccarat on June 04, 2010, 12:36:01 AM
G'day,

This is what I'm ALWAYS saying, my mechanical progression trend (based) system finds trends and then bets more as the trend continues and if it hasn't covered the outstanding amount by the time the trend stops it just waits for the next run and starts again!

Glenn.

Glenn, mate, I tried the bicycle clips... Unfortunately I got carried away and tried to stuff way too many Minties down there. Anyway I got busted, so they turfed me out and took my card!

I don't suppose you could sign me in next time you go upstairs? lol.

Cheers.

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on June 04, 2010, 12:54:00 AM
This is nonsense. If you really have studied randomness you'd know that it doesn't matter what you imagine/pretend to see. Your subjective judgement on randomness won't change what it is. It won't turn the odds in your favor (that's what the casinos want you to think). It is not an edge, nor is it the doorways to one.

I highly recommend N. Taleb's "Fooled by Randomness" to anyone really interested in this.

I also recommend some reading on human psychology as it pertains to gambling/trading.


The problem never goes away. What you think you know has very little to do with this. You still have your thinking wrapped around the imagination changing what will happen. It's a straw man argument. It's a tired and worn out argument. You are completely stuck on it. Nobody needs to attempt try and understand your errant thinking. We don't need to answer your misconceptions. When are you going to hear this. We are not attempting to change the odds or to cause anything to be predictable. When are you going to hear that? You are the one claiming that it's what we do. It's you with the problem.

Randomness will just happen. If it appears as a streak or bunches of streaks it will do it without permission from Noble Savage.

bombus

Quote from: Spike! on June 04, 2010, 12:55:27 AM
You're confusing VLS with your other forum, Bombus, 'Real Men in Leather'. :haha:


Link please, Spike!

Thanks.

bombus

Quote from: bombus on June 04, 2010, 01:03:42 AM

Link please, Spike!

Thanks.

Never mind.

Davey-Jones just PM'ed it to me.

Thanks, Davey. lol.

Spike!

>>When are you going to hear this. We are not attempting to change the odds or to cause anything to be predictable. When are you going to hear that? You are the one claiming that it's what we do. It's you with the problem.>>

Yup. If the outcomes are independent, unconnected and don't influence each other, its up to us to be clever and make sense out of them, isn't it. Cleverness comes easier to some than to others, apparently.  :P


Noble Savage

Quote from: Gizmotron on June 04, 2010, 01:03:38 AM
We are not attempting to change the odds or to cause anything to be predictable.

When Spike bets on Red, the latter has 72% chance of appearing, even though Red pockets cover only 47% of the wheel.

If that is not "changing the odds" then what is it? Black magic? ;D

gizmotron

Quote from: Spike! on June 04, 2010, 01:21:52 AM
Yup. If the outcomes are independent, unconnected and don't influence each other, its up to us to be clever and make sense out of them, isn't it. Cleverness comes easier to some than to others, apparently.  :P

Let's simplify this so that any retarded moron can see it. If you only place bets on red then what will happen. At some point you are going to come into longer and longer stretches of just reds. The rest of the time it won't be bunches of reds dominating. Now for all the tards & rons, You bet higher during streaks of reds. So where are all the odds now? They don't mean jack crap. It's the odds that can't predict or influence the outcome.

Spike!

When Spike bets on Red, the latter has 72% chance of appearing>>

They do? Nice try. If a weatherman has a 75% accuracy rate guessing the next days weather, does that mean when he makes his next guess, the weather has a 75% chance of being what he guessed? Hardly. You're confusing a guess with actual probability. The probability of the wheel never changes, just like the weatherman has no influence over the weather.

gizmotron

Quote from: Spike! on June 04, 2010, 01:32:31 AM
When Spike bets on Red, the latter has 72% chance of appearing>>

They do? Nice try. If a weatherman has a 75% accuracy rate guessing the next days weather, does that mean when he makes his next guess, the weather has a 75% chance of being what he guessed? Hardly. You're confusing a guess with actual probability. The probability of the wheel never changes, just like the weatherman has no influence over the weather.

I'll bet this goes right over his head, again.

Noble Savage

What I really wonder about is your true motives. Why would you two spend years preaching on an almost daily basis about this, sending people in a wild goose chase?

If it's not to sell something, then it must be an ego thing.

You wouldn't be the first though. James Wendel, Charles Hampshire, and Richard (Mr. Chips) are examples of individuals who share the same problem.

I know most of you dislike each other, but I think you'd make a cute special team.

lol, kids these days..

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on June 04, 2010, 01:37:33 AM
What I really wonder about is your true motives. Why would you two spend years preaching on an almost daily basis about this, sending people in a wild goose chase?

If it's not to sell something, then it must be an ego thing.

You wouldn't be the first though. James Wendel, Charles Hampshire, and Richard (Mr. Chips) are examples of individuals who share the same problem.

I know most of you dislike each other, but I think you'd make a cute special team.

lol, kids these days..

Yep, completely clueless.

Spike!

sending people in a wild goose chase?>>

I'll be the first to testify there are no geese in what I do. That I know of.. Ever write a book? You learn more about the subject you're writing about than anybody who reads it will. I post because it makes me think about what I'm doing, its really as simple as that.


gizmotron

Any of you that are here that want to win at gambling, while playing Roulette? Just do yourself a big favor. There are people that can't do this. They are angry in various ways. Some act like the forum police. Some try to erect straw man arguments in hopes of saving you from researching the truth. It's funny too. Because every one of them thinks it's about defying the laws of arithmetic and math. So do yourselves a big favor. Don't bother being dragged into senseless and useless arguments about things that have nothing to do with trend playing. Just let them flail in the wind.

gizmotron

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