What It Is

[Spike!]

If I see 8 reds in a row, another red isn't due just because there were 8 in a row. Neither is black due, just because 8 reds is enough. Nothing is due, nothing is expected. If I choose to bet red and follow the streak, its a game I'm forcing on the game of roulette, and not something the wheel itself is doing.

So what I do is pretend the wheel is playing a game with its outcomes, when its really not. I'm the one who's playing and inventing and sometimes the wheel co-operates with my game, sometimes it doesn't. The wheel itself isn't doing anything except spitting out unconnected random events.

How's that for an explanation.

[bombus]

I'm going to pretend I didn't read that Crudola...

[Spike!]

I didn't read that Crudola...>>

Explain in detail why its 'crudola'. You can't do it. Its exactly how every system works.

[bombus]

...sometimes the wheel co-operates with my game, sometimes it doesn't...

That really is the crux of it.

In effect, this is what Gizmotron keeps saying. How you select the next bet is not exactly paramount. Whether the wheel co-operates or not, is just as, if not more vital to your success.

So how can you trust the wheel to co-operate when it's a damned snake in the grass?..

Maybe VB/AP is one answer.

[Spike!]

wheel to co-operate when it's a damned snake in the grass?..>>>

Its only that way if you use a system that doesn't go with the flow of what the wheel is producing. It goes mostly in your favor if you play on a spin to spin basis. Its only against you 25% of the time instead of 60%.

[Noble Savage]

Sorry, that's just impossible.

[Spike!]

So what I do is pretend the wheel is playing a game with its outcomes,>>

>>Sorry, that's just impossible.>>

So its now impossible to PRETEND? Wow, you must have no imagination whatsoever..

[gizmotron]

In effect, this is what Gizmotron keeps saying. How you select the next bet is not exactly paramount. Whether the wheel co-operates or not, is just as, if not more vital to your success.

What happens to your effectiveness patterns and trends is what matters more than getting one trend based guess right. I bet low during downturns and I bet up during win streaks. I just use trends to give myself a consistent frame of reference to test as I go. I'm testing the waters as I go. I'm looking for anything that is happening. If that causes wins then I bet up during trends of that. It's so simple that what matters the most is patience, awareness, and knowing when to bet up  and when to drop down.

It's all there in R.D. Ellison's book 'Gamble To Win Roulette'; First Printing April, 2002

[bombus]

Its only against you 25% of the time instead of 60%.

Please explain?...

[MiniBaccarat]

G'day,

What happens to your effectiveness patterns and trends is what matters more than getting one trend based guess right. I bet low during downturns and I bet up during win streaks. I just use trends to give myself a consistent frame of reference to test as I go. I'm testing the waters as I go. I'm looking for anything that is happening. If that causes wins then I bet up during trends of that. It's so simple that what matters the most is patience, awareness, and knowing when to bet up  and when to drop down.

This is what I'm ALWAYS saying, my mechanical progression trend (based) system finds trends and then bets more as the trend continues and if it hasn't covered the outstanding amount by the time the trend stops it just waits for the next run and starts again!

Glenn.

[Noble Savage]

So its now impossible to PRETEND? Wow, you must have no imagination whatsoever..

"Pretend" winnings don't count. lol

I was talking about this:

Its only against you 25% of the time instead of 60%.

Sorry, but unless you change the physical parameters of the wheel (like block/remove some pockets) that's just impossible.

But then again, it's your specialty to pretend.

[Spike!]

"Pretend" winnings don't count. >>>

The winnings are real, thats not the pretend part.

>>Sorry, but unless you change the physical parameters of the wheel>>

No need to keep apologising for what you don't know. Not only is it not impossible, its extremely doable. Extremely..

[bombus]

...its extremely doable...

I'll do you, Jimmy!

[Spike!]

Please explain?...

The wheel is pretty much against any system a player uses, about 55% to 60% of the time. You can turn this to 70% to 75% in your favor if you learn how random works on a spin to spin basis on the EC's.

[Noble Savage]

This is nonsense. If you really have studied randomness you'd know that it doesn't matter what you imagine/pretend to see. Your subjective judgement on randomness won't change "what it is". It won't turn the odds in your favor (that's what the casinos want you to think). It is not an edge, nor is it the doorways to one.

I highly recommend N. Taleb's "Fooled by Randomness" to anyone really interested in this.

I also recommend some reading on human psychology as it pertains to gambling/trading.

[Noble Savage]

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