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Started by gizmotron, July 26, 2010, 02:09:52 AM

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mistarlupo

I feel sorry for you, because people (including me) used to respect you and listen to you. Now you're just one old lonely system seller.

gizmotron

Quote from: mistarlupo on July 26, 2010, 12:18:45 PM
I feel sorry for you, because people (including me) used to respect you and listen to you. Now you're just one old lonely system seller.

If you believe that then I have some swamp land to sell you. You never respected me. You have always treated this a gambler's fallacy. Pull somebody else's leg, CHICKEN.

mistarlupo

I may donate $1K though. But I don't want your system. It's for you to buy medicines. I'm worried about your mental health.

gizmotron

Quote from: Number Six on July 26, 2010, 12:15:19 PM
So, because you've been keeping up this pathological hoax for five years, suddenly you think you're entitled a cash injection of a paltry $10,000 from a bunch of desperados - a sum of money you could easily win yourself in a day for five hundred times less the effort? Gizmo, sincerely, I wish you luck in showing us all up to be "past thinkers". I am quaking in my boots. Is this gonna be another "I made WORLD HISTORY on VLS!" moment?

It's an interesting idea. I could freely teach the world how to beat randomness. Then you would be nothing but a blathering jackanapes. You titanic fool. I want the $1000 so that the student will take the teaching seriously. You are a perfect illustration of why I did that.

Number Six

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
It's an interesting idea. I could freely teach the world how to beat randomness. Then you would be nothing but a blathering jackanapes. You titanic fool. I want the $1000 so that the student will take the teaching seriously. You are a perfect illustration of why I did that.

Of course, Gizmo. We all know that you've turned into a seller because you don't need the money  :)

Try getting a job, the pay probably won't be as good but at least it's more honourable than turning to petty criminality.  For example, don't supermarkets employ old guys to push trolleys around?

gizmotron

Quote from: mistarlupo on July 26, 2010, 12:27:45 PM
I may donate $1K though. But I don't want your system. It's for you to buy medicines. I'm worried about your mental health.

Don't bother. I've turned away others already. I would just give you your money back. There is no way I want one of you math Nazis messing up the classroom.

Bayes

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2010, 12:13:43 PM
I don't want customers. I want students that are not full cups.

The problem is this: If you're not selling a system (ie; a bunch of triggers), then you must be teaching your students some principles whereby they can win "on their own" as it were. Correct?

What principles apply to a random game when the only thing you take into account as a basis for the next bet or series of bets is past spins? all your principles must be fallacies.

All the wisdom you wish to impart has been freely available for many years, why would anyone want to spend $1000 when they can get it all for nothing? what is your USP (unique selling point)?

GogoCro

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
It's an interesting idea. I could freely teach the world how to beat randomness. Then you would be nothing but a blathering jackanapes. You titanic fool. I want the $1000 so that the student will take the teaching seriously. You are a perfect illustration of why I did that.

You can teach how to beat randomness? Please, can you teach how to beat time?

gizmotron

Quote from: Bayes on July 26, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
All the wisdom you wish to impart has been freely available for many years, why would anyone want to spend $1000 when they can get it all for nothing? what is your USP (unique selling point)?

You are my unique selling point here. You are wrong. Your conclusions are wrong. And your assumptions are wrong. Dig this bub, someday somebody will openly prove you wrong. On that day Roulette, Craps, and Baccarat will all be shut down permanently. You will be the protector of a pile of crap. Knowing that that is in your future makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. The mathNazis bite the dust...

Number Six

Quote from: Bayes on July 26, 2010, 12:37:05 PM

What principles apply to a random game when the only thing you take into account as a basis for the next bet or series of bets is past spins? all your principles must be fallacies.


If Gizmo's supersystem is based on trends/elegant patterns, and any sequence of outcomes has the same chance of occurring as any other of the same length, then how can trends/elegent patterns even be classified, and, moreover, how can they exist in the same game as a non-tend/non-elegent pattern? Either every sequence of a given length is a trend/elegent pattern or it is just a random sequence disgorged by a device. Further, even if a trend/elegent pattern could be classified as being so, its length in a random game is totally inestimable, since on any given spin it has the same odds as continuing or not continuing. The whole thing is a fallacy based on junk-maths, unless you somehow factor in the physical aspects of the game, which clearly don't apply here.

gizmotron

Quote from: GogoCro on July 26, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
You can teach how to beat randomness? Please, can you teach how to beat time?

I can teach how to play 32nd notes. Does that count?

gizmotron

Quote from: Number Six on July 26, 2010, 12:55:48 PM
If Gizmo's supersystem is based on trends/elegant patterns, and any sequence of outcomes has the same chance of occurring as any other of the same length, then how can trends/elegent patterns even be classified, and, moreover, how can they exist in the same game as a non-tend/non-elegent pattern? Either every sequence of a given length is a trend/elegent pattern or it is just a random sequence disgorged by a device. Further, even if a trend/elegent pattern could be classified as being so, its length in a random game is totally inestimable, since on any given spin it has the same odds as continuing or not continuing. The whole thing is a fallacy based on junk-maths, unless you somehow factor in the physical aspects of the game, which clearly don't apply here.

So says the blind. So you want to teach about randomness but you can't make it work, so that qualifies you to explain it? That sums you up perfectly. Nice going. What a pathetic bit of sophistry. If you divide Number Six by three you get number two, the significant symbolism of a pile of it.

Number Six

Quote from: Gizmotron on July 26, 2010, 01:02:23 PM
So says the blind. So you want to teach about randomness but you can't make it work, so that qualifies you to explain it? That sums you up perfectly. Nice going. What a pathetic bit of sophistry. If you divide Number Six by three you get number two, the significant symbolism of a pile of it.

Sorry, you are seeing things, unsurprisingly given your character. There is nothing deceptive in the question. It's a basic mathematical observation that has revealed your faulty logic and forced you to resort to ad hominem, like every single other seller out there pushing worthless gambling products. Your reluctance to answer simply proves that you are lacking fundamental knowledge or will not answer the question because to do so would show that the real maths of the game clearly throws out your junk-maths. Now I'm REALLY scared about being exposed as a past thinker...

gizmotron

Number Two, you are clueless. Your math excuse is nothing but a comfort blanket or a crutch to lean on. There is no way that randomness stays in a constant state of house advantage. That would deny randomness its natural proclivities. That means that your excuse for common sense is worthless. Keep piling it up. That's what your good at.

Bayes

Quote from: Number Six on July 26, 2010, 12:55:48 PM
The whole thing is a fallacy based on junk-maths

Hence Gizmo has to resort to having "students" and not customers. Customers complain and want their money back if the product doesn't perform as advertised, but not every student is guaranteed a diploma, which is Gizmo's get-out clause.

Can't make the strategy work? study harder! practice longer! remember, you paid $1000 for this, it's YOUR responsibility.

What a con.



Bayes

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