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5 and a half streets system

Started by moch, July 28, 2008, 11:15:30 AM

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moch

Hi,

I have been testing a way of play, that seems quite balanced.
It will not change the odds, but with a small grinding progression, may work.
So far tests have been medium term, not long.

Let's have a look at the image.

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We will bet on high(1-18) or low (19-36) but bets are on streets.
In the image I am betting on low. I use 5,5 units. 1+1+1+1+1+0.5.
If at your casino, you can´t bet 0.5 then the rule is, the 0.5 street is always half of the other units. Ie. 2+2+2+2+2+1, and the higher unit is twice the half bet. Only the half bet can change from street 6 to street 1, or from street 7 to street 12 and vice-verse. I will explain this later.

Let's have a look at the payouts. Let's use the 1-1-1-1-1-0.5 example

If you hit the:
1st street, you win 0.5.
2nd to 6th street, win 6.5.

If you loose (high or zero hit) you loose 5.5 units.
This is not enough to put the odds on your side, cause if 1st street hits, you loose 5.5 but for each hit on 1st street you only win 0.5 against a loss of 5.5. Odds are still the same (6 to 6).

Then there's the zero. You loose 5.5, so the house is still ahead by +2.7%

So on a hit except for the 1st street we win 6.5 units
On any loss we loose 5.5.

Well, this means if high and low were alternating by the same amount of spins, you would always get + 1 unit. So far so good. This is a small advantage for your bankroll.

Oh, but zero came out. This will unbalance everything. :'(
It is time to use a Grinding (like Oscar's) progression until you are in profit. Do not increase the progression too much. Do your math and be careful.
You would increase to 2+2+2+2+2+1 and so on until in profit, but ONLY when your half hits. If low hits you bet once looking for a repeat. You look for one hit at a time when using a progression. You know if the half's alternate you are in profit, no matter what, as long as zero and 1st street don´t hit.

This means you do not have to use a progression. You flat bet. If you wanna progress in this case you can, but it will be far more dangerous and the system may not work in your favor. So far in my tests with a 500 bankroll, I did not loose progressing when my bankroll was less than the higher bankroll.

High or Low tend to come in streaks. So if you get a hit you will bet the minimum until you loose 2 in a row. Why 2 ? Because there is a good chance that high and low will alternate. In this case you made a profit, even if your bankroll is less than the higher bankroll as we discussed earlier.

Now it's time to watch the high and low trends. Use your best judjement , because you will need to switch your bet's form high to low and vice versa. Use the trends.

What about the half bet and street 1-6 in the example. Streets do not USUALLY repeat back to back. So you can move the half from street 1 to street 6 and back as you need. If one of those streets is hitting often, you move the half bet to that street. This is another small advantage for you.

Last but not the least, you should use the LW method to decrease the amount of your losses. That is if you have enough patience.  ;)

The only advantage of this method is to protect your bankroll. Nothing else. Expect to loose according to the odds, but your bankroll will last longer.

Cheers
Moch





moch

Or,

I could bet like this, always moving the half bet to the last street that hit.
Why not forget about the half bet, and bet nothing on the last street. It's ok, but the progression will increase faster.


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Long term, it's the same, but may be easier to apply the LW method.
I am testing this. Will let you know of my findings.


TwoCatSam


iceberg1912

sorry moch,
I don't understand...
do you bet on streets or double streets?
And more...can you explain the progression used?
Thanx
Ice

moch

Quote from: iceberg1912 on July 28, 2008, 04:47:49 PM
sorry moch,
I don't understand...
do you bet on streets or double streets?
And more...can you explain the progression used?
Thanx
Ice

It's the same Ice (Please see the 2nd image, and the 2nd message)
You can bet 1 unit on 5 streets and 0.5 in the sixth street (within the high numbers or low numbers) until you lose 2 in a row. We are supposing you are using the trending half of the bet layout. You wait in virtual play until that half hits again. You need 2 hits to be ahead. Either use 1-1-1-1-1-0.5 (2 times) to see if you recover with those 2 spins, or go directly to betting 2-2-2-2-2-1 to recover in 1 spin. If you lost the 1st spin, bet again. Remember high and low alternating you make a profit of 1 unit per bet unit. So in theory you can flat bet all the way, until a zero or the half bet street hits. (although this is true in the long run, your bankroll will suffer a lot, as well as your pacience  ;)

Or to recover right away follow the instructions bellow, and watch your bankroll. This is the aggressive way.
Suppose you lost these 2 bets. Wait in virtual until a hit on the trending Half. bet 3-3-3-3-3-1.5 . If you win bet 4-4-4-4-4-2, 5-5-5-5-5-2.5 etc until in profit. Of course if you lose 2 bets always wait in virtual.
Then on a virtual hit increase the bet by 1-1-1-1-1-0.5 When in profit start with 1-1-1-1-1-0.5 (I use the 0.5 bet cause in my casino I can place that bet on the air ball roulette.) I will not progress anymore when my bet is at 10-10-10-10-10-5 I keep flat betting this amount until I am in profit or close, or my bankroll is resting in peace. :-\ .or you could set yourself a max lost amount, like 20 or 30 units, then start the progression.

Now the zero and the street with 0.5
If one of these two locations hit, no matter what, you MUST use the progression. If you are lucky enough to win more units or the same amount of units progressing these 2 locations, you have a small advantage over the house. I do not believe this to be true in the long run, but...

All of this is based upon the assumption that high-low are trending, or alternating.

Good luck


iceberg1912

sorry but I saw 13/14 even 15 continuing high or low.
How recover that?
Ice

moch

Quote from: iceberg1912 on July 28, 2008, 08:12:17 PM
sorry but I saw 13/14 even 15 continuing high or low.
How recover that?
Ice


Sorry Ice.  I didn´t understood the question. Please explain

iceberg1912

I meant: what happen if 1/18 or 18/36 repeat 14 or 15 times in a row?
Ice

moch

Quote from: iceberg1912 on July 29, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
I meant: what happen if 1/18 or 18/36 repeat 14 or 15 times in a row?
Ice

Move your bets, from high to low and vice versa. The idea is to ride the trends.

djroulette

this system is right up my street. lol i have been playing it all morning and been seeing some great results but i have made my own rules whilst playing the system.

i stick to the original layout of chips. ( i have been using 25p to represent 1 unit)

i start of by placing 2 units on each of the double streets up to 18 and placing 1 unit on any random line.

this is how i begin to play. if my first bet wins i repeat the same bet again and if this looses i then move the chips to the other end. however if my 2nd bet would have lost i would wait for three wins total on that same bet before moving to the other end.

when i loose a bet i use Oscars grind and only add 1 unit after each loss. i hope this is making sense as this is the first time i have tried to describe a system.

I decide on where to put the single line unit by seeing where the hot umbers are in that particular section and placing it on their line.

well i hope people can i understand this if not ask and i will do my best to try.

dj

djroulette

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