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Public Roulette Computer Demo - 13th November
October 24, 2010, 08:01:14 PM
I'll be conducting one of the final public roulette computer demonstrations on SATURDAY 13TH NOVEMBER. The date and venue is booked (Australia, Melbourne's eastern suburbs) - the venue's details are released upon request.

The demonstration will be exclusively for the roulette computer device explained at www.roulette-computers.com, NOT the roulette system at www.roulettephysics.com. However, for free, I will teach attendees a basic method to predict roulette spins - this method does NOT involve the use of any electronic devices.

The following will be demonstrated:

* The latest version of the device explained at www.roulette-computers.com

* Comparative testing of other devices to clearly establish blatant lies of other device developers - why other devices cost you money rather than profit you.

The demonstration will be conducted on a current model John Huxley wheel with Velstone ball track (MK7 model). An ivorine ball will be used, which is a very "bouncy" ball.

The demonstration will be conducted over 4 hours, from 10am - 2pm. We'll then take a short break for lunch (lunch available on-site, but you'll need to pay for this yourself).

From about 3pm - 6pm, existing players and partners only may remain for training and general support and practise on a real wheel.

Both local and international individuals are welcome to attend. The venue has been booked and date is 100% certain, so you may book your travel arrangements. Accommodation is available on-site which is best to use if you do not live locally.

The demonstration is FREE, informal, and in a very relaxed atmosphere, which is best for everyone to digest the information and to ascertain the truth about the device's capabilities on modern wheels and in modern casino conditions.

This will be the last public demonstration for this year, and may be the last one ever. Anyone can attend, even if merely curious, but bookings are essential. To attend, contact me via http://www.roulettephysics.com/contact/ to make a booking - your IMMEDIATE action is advised as there is strictly limited seating.


PS - Anyone can attend, including forester. Then he can bring the 6 phones for a refund like he claims he has, if the comparative testing of FFA doesn't reflect the results I've already published. I'd really love him to come, but he avoids every such opportunity
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Forester has attempted to copy many features from my computer, but prior to that said the features werent needed
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The November 13th demo is booked out now. I'll need to do another one to accommodate others, but it will probably be in January - just depends on my schedule. Either way if you want to attend, contact me. I'll announce the next date on http://genuinewinnerroulette.blogspot.com - you can subscribe to the blog and you are emailed updates.
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@ Kelly
October 27, 2010, 02:06:04 AM
Kelly, you wrote:

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24 hours after he announced the new demonstration he announces that everything is booked and that another one will be held in January.  No one on the boards has mentioned they will attend,  again, I seriously doubt thats the real story.  It looks more like a cancellation to me.

You are doing what a lot of people do - you make assumptions. Check your PM - call the conference center, and confirm the booking for the 13th November in my name. Then you can stop assuming and start knowing. Keep the details to yourself though.

As for the rest of nonsense you read, it has all been addressed before
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PS- I've done demos at that conference center about 10 times. Another venue was the airport motel and convention center near melbourne airport (attwood).  Kelly, I even offered to send you my computer for testing. You have this opportunity to finally know with 100% certainty the truth. I will also happily put you in touch with more than 1 computer user so you can hear it for yourself - as I did with Ronjo.

Why dont I just publish every bit of proof available? Because lots of it is sensitive. If I wanted to do that, I would have done it already.
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I WISH you were closer i would of love to see this.

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If it helps I'm doing another one shortly after. The 13th November one is full and if there are too many people, there are questions and after questions and we waste time. Cant do much about the location - I really dont have time to travel.
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I just found it weird that 10 - 15 persons enrolled in 24 hours and no one expressed any interest in it on the boards except 1 that were located too far away to attend.  But it can easyli be put to rest if you video 1/2  a minute from the back of the room where everyone is a bit far away and with their backs to the camera. I mean, if you announce that everything is booked and its not, thats as good as a cancellation no matter that you have booked the room.

I donn`t mix up with the issues bago and forester is running since I have no first hand experience in what it is all about, the critic I have is purely on specifics I find myslf, like the test report for example. Also, I find it a mysterious that there should be such big demand on the devices and stuff and no real life stories.  If someone posts that he lost 10K using your device, there could be more to it than just the device not working.  I had a friend that I taught a bit of VB some 4 - 5 years ago and I never forget the first play at a suitable wheel. He lost ALL bets  he was placing simply because he was nervous and placing the bets wrongly on the layout, nervously fumbling and pushing the chips around, (no race track) even though when I looked in his notes he had all timings and reference number almost the same as me. He was just too nervous to be able to play properly.  

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I just found it weird that 10 - 15 persons enrolled in 24 hours and no one expressed any interest in it on the boards except 1 that were located too far away to attend.  But it can easyli be put to rest if you video 1/2  a minute from the back of the room where everyone is a bit far away and with their backs to the camera. I mean, if you announce that everything is booked and its not, thats as good as a cancellation no matter that you have booked the room.

I donn`t mix up with the issues bago and forester is running since I have no first hand experience in what it is all about, the critic I have is purely on specifics I find myslf, like the test report for example. Also, I find it a mysterious that there should be such big demand on the devices and stuff and no real life stories.  If someone posts that he lost 10K using your device, there could be more to it than just the device not working.  I had a friend that I taught a bit of VB some 4 - 5 years ago and I never forget the first play at a suitable wheel. He lost ALL bets  he was placing simply because he was nervous and placing the bets wrongly on the layout, nervously fumbling and pushing the chips around, (no race track) even though when I looked in his notes he had all timings and reference number almost the same as me. He was just too nervous to be able to play properly.  
[/quoTE I would like to learn vb i know some basics but not enough to make it work there is so many opinon on forums that you dont no what the proper way is its hard to find a mentor .

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It IS hard to find a mentor indeed.  And as you see, I wasn`t a very good one either. No, his predictions were actually okay, I would say he had at least a 15% edge, but if only 1 or 2 chips out of 5 - 7 numbers is at the right spot it means that there are big loop holes in the betting sector and if you on top of everything is unlucky the ball will hit the loop holes, which it did.

He later purchased a table layout that he bought on the german ebay and we borrowed a wheel from a friend and after a while of training he could also play all 3 number sectors and many 5 number sectors.  He was still nervous though, but he played much better the second time around and got away with a healthy profit that as it happens could have been twice as big if he had played the bet size he said at home he would use.  

Im not sure what he is doing today, the last I heard of him was that he was learning to chop the neck of a bottle of champagne with a sword.  The french got some sort of organisation that many waiters is a part of where the essence is to do exactly that. Its called "Sabre"  + something.   One should be very carefull, if te bottle is too warm above 3 celsius, it will explode when the sword hits the neck. There is about twice as much pressure in a bottle of champagne as there is in a car tyre. Or so they say, i haven`t checked lately.

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STEVE DO YOU TEACH VB?

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Yes I certainly do teach VB - an outline of what I teach is explained in www.genuinewinner.com/gw.zip

KELLY, see my response in blue:

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I just found it weird that 10 - 15 persons enrolled in 24 hours and no one expressed any interest in it on the boards except 1 that were located too far away to attend.

Not at all to offend you, but it really is ignorance. Many people make a big deal over what I consider to be the most mundane things. Why? Because their perception of how things should be doesn't match actual reality.

I sent a broadcast email to 60,000 people. Everyone that booked is in australia - a few requests from overseas but I called australians first (to confirm booking) as the timezone is convenient. The seats filled very quickly, but it is only to about 10 people (2 may come with friends) because if it's any bigger, then it's not as personal and close-up for everyone. I will need to do another demo shortly after too because a lot of people want to attend.

I find it really bemusing that people actually think this is suss. It is just mundane things to me and I dont quite understand why people dont believe it, or many things about me. It's just people ASSUME and believe based on all they know, and because their perception of reality doesn't match up, they assume I must be full of it, rather than they be ignorant. I'm not directing this only at you kelly, but see it from my shoes - it's no big deal at all to me, but people question it.


But it can easyli be put to rest if you video 1/2  a minute from the back of the room where everyone is a bit far away and with their backs to the camera. I mean, if you announce that everything is booked and its not, thats as good as a cancellation no matter that you have booked the room.

Huh? As good as a cancellation? Call the conference center. I do demos there all the time. And NO PROBLEM, I'll show you what you need after it's done, but I'm not going to give you photos of everyone - what player would approve? You will hear everyone discussing things with me. Who knows, maybe forester will say they are all family in on my scam. You decide. I could publish so much but mostly I dont bother because it is wasting time showing ignorant people such mundane things. Again not to offend you at all, and it's not all directed at you, but you need to see things from my view.

I donn`t mix up with the issues bago and forester is running since I have no first hand experience in what it is all about, the critic I have is purely on specifics I find myslf, like the test report for example. Also, I find it a mysterious that there should be such big demand on the devices and stuff and no real life stories.

No real life stories? Should players BRAG about it? It it's working well and people have signed non-disclosure agreements, should you expect to see every man raving about it? What is this about? A great new movie? If you piece all the available information together, and approach it with an open mind and independent of negative rubbish about me, the truth is quite clear.

If someone posts that he lost 10K using your device, there could be more to it than just the device not working.  I had a friend that I taught a bit of VB some 4 - 5 years ago and I never forget the first play at a suitable wheel. He lost ALL bets  he was placing simply because he was nervous and placing the bets wrongly on the layout, nervously fumbling and pushing the chips around, (no race track) even though when I looked in his notes he had all timings and reference number almost the same as me. He was just too nervous to be able to play properly.  

Not sure why you mentioned this. Anyway, again you have the opportunity to KNOW - but you rejected it. Who knows why. As for the upcoming demo, I'll send you some material after it's done. And perhaps I'll send you material from other demos - I'm careful about what I release to who, but one example of what I'd send you is a conversation I had with an italian team's interpreter before they arrived. Why? Well it is not from the players so they wouldnt care, and think would we hire an interpreter to speak with her for no reason at all? And giving you that kind of thing doesn't release any secrets.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo - 13th November
November 01, 2010, 12:26:54 AM
Yeah well, like I said, it can easyli be put to rest.  A video that at some point  shows you and the back of 10 - 15 participants will do nicely.  

Im pretty sure you know what I mean but I will rephrase it.  You appears to make a lot of business but there appears to be no one involved. 60.000 email broadcasts. Im not sure what that is, e mail with audio ?, well if you send 60K I think it would be the type that the emal program sends into the unwanted mail box by automatic because of spam maybe thats why no on has metioned anything.  

 I find it strange that no one stumbles into or know about people that plays in your teams.  Real life stories is not someone popping up out of the dark and make a testimonial on a web page. So many players has brothers, sisters and wifes surely there would have been a comment here and there if there were so many players, if not from them, then from people in the casinos that has met them because frankly, a VB or computer player/team is not that hard to reckognize.  I could be wrong of course, but like I say, I find it weird.

A guy like Basieux held many personal seminars for people, but there were plenty of people around that could verify that they had actually been there even though the seminars weren`t advertised big time.  Very small business, still plenty of people that could verify that they had been there in flesh and blood.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo - 13th November
November 01, 2010, 01:01:41 AM
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Yeah well, like I said, it can easyli be put to rest.  A video that at some point  shows you and the back of 10 - 15 participants will do nicely.

What do you want me to say to everyone, "excuse me while I take photos of the backs of your heads because people dont believe you are actually here". I will send you enough for you to know it is real, as much of  a waste of time it is to do that.

Im pretty sure you know what I mean but I will rephrase it.  You appears to make a lot of business but there appears to be no one involved. 60.000 email broadcasts. Im not sure what that is, e mail with audio ?, well if you send 60K I think it would be the type that the emal program sends into the unwanted mail box by automatic because of spam maybe thats why no on has metioned anything.

Again I'm sorry but it is again ignorance, and about what I consider mundane things. All my mailing lists are opt-in. For roulette, people who submit name and email at www.genuinewinner.com/index.html and there are hundreds of thousands of recipients. In this case I didnt mail everyone. See attached image. I use getresponse.com - none of it is spam.

I find it strange that no one stumbles into or know about people that plays in your teams.

Refer to my last post. Richard Marcus opened his big mouth and said he knows one of my hybrid teams, who are successful - as per his blog. I could give many examples, but why am I bothering? I never even mention 80% of things. I am first and foremost a player and team manager. As such, I keep many things private. I comparatively dont care about sales.

Real life stories is not someone popping up out of the dark and make a testimonial on a web page. So many players has brothers, sisters and wifes surely there would have been a comment here and there if there were so many players, if not from them, then from people in the casinos that has met them because frankly, a VB or computer player/team is not that hard to reckognize.  I could be wrong of course, but like I say, I find it weird.

That is your perception of what reality should be, not what actual reality is so you perhaps think there is deception somewhere. It is how it is. Again really I am not trying to offend you - see it from my perspective.

A guy like Basieux held many personal seminars for people, but there were plenty of people around that could verify that they had actually been there even though the seminars weren`t advertised big time.  Very small business, still plenty of people that could verify that they had been there in flesh and blood.

Kelly there are loads of people on the roulette forums that have met me personally. Many who are players of mine. They adhere to contracts.  I'm sorry if anyone has a hard time believing this or mundane things because reality doesn't suit their perception, but that's just how it is.

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Re: Public Roulette Computer Demo - 13th November
November 14, 2010, 07:17:56 PM
The demo on Saturday went very well. I recorded it all, but it's at least 4 hours of footage for the computer demo part alone. To actual players I can send DVDs of the full demo but may censor a few things like about my own teams. Otherwise it'd be uncensored. I need to work out pricing for it but it wont be much.

Excluding myself and the security guard, 9 people attended. I dont want to make them too large or it all gets impersonal. I'll need to do another public demo in a few weeks as there are roughly 30-40 other people who want to attend, so one more demo before christmas.

I will be publicly releasing parts of the video - it'll be available via download. First I need to censor parts and figure out which segments are most relevant.

Below is a general outline of how the actual computer demonstration component went:

1. We did about 60 spins. It took a few hours because there were a lot of questions in between. Predictions were made when there is over 13 seconds before the ball actually fell. We used a very bouncy ivorine ball. The velstone mk7 huxley wheel was used. They were not easy conditions.

2. One of the participants tracked the diamond hits. There were THREE dominant diamonds, which where 2 verticals and one horizontal. I think the two verticals were 180 degrees off each other - I have to check back.

3. The accuracy after calibration was when betting 15 numbers, wins occured on approximately 90% of spins. Yes, that means we got a win on almost every spin. Rest assured there were plenty of spins and loads of data for statistics buffs who later want to analyze the probability of "luck". Clearly from everyone's feedback and reactions of both the computer's data and the accuracy of predictions, everyone knew they were seeing the real thing.

4. At the very end, I disassembled the wheel to show there were no modifications like magnets. It was witnessed by I think the last 4 people who left. This was also recorded.

So the accuracy was very good. I recall when Ronjo did his testing (www.roulettewars.com/ronjo.html), he got 100% of the predictions in the correct whee half and that was with 4 dominant diamonds (3 vertical and 1 horizontal). But that was with the more advanced settings, plus he considered 18 numbers, not 15 like Saturday's demo. So much for "difficulty" in beating wheels with multiple dominant diamonds.. In the recent public demo, I used only basic settings - well, basic for my computer.

A few of the participants expressed to me they had read everything about me there is to read, including trash from clowns like howe, forester and bago. We had a bit of chuckle about them and what they do - yes they are a joke. Howe apparently lost the plot over the weekend but I wont get into that - he's a very jealous and desperate person.

I will make available relatively uncensored DVDs (or downloads) to some people. The only parts I'd censor are more about my teams. Some parts will be available to everyone via download.

After the computer demo, I taught participants a basic visual ballistics method - it was my thanks for them attending. I'm thinking of releasing video of that so people know more about what I teach.

Again I'll be releasing segments of the recorded video. You dont see the participants, except for the occasional hand or foot, but you hear everything they ask and ask and say. The video is focused on the wheel so existing players can test their computer on the same footage.

Also I demonstrated one of the new hybrids - formerly 'super computer'. Players were shown how it basically worked. But it is not for sale anyway. I recorded showing them it, but all you see is bodies move past the camera to take a closer look, and hear their comments. The focus of the demo was on the standard computer though.

If anyone wants to attend the next public demo, see www.genuinewinner.com/conference.htm

Regarding the video I'll release of the event, it is many hours of footage. It'll take me at least a few days to censor parts. I could release the whole video and just censor parts of the audio, but even that will be an enormous download. I'll announce the download link(s) here when ready.
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