scammers, system sellers, murph

[AnandMajumdar]

Andy,

You have a chance here to do the forum(s) a service.  Copy and paste his e-mail slamming Victor and myself and start a
new thread with it.  People should know what a scammer this man  is. I cut and pasted one from him.

Do not buy anything, Andy!  I, and Victor, will help you devise a winning system FREE.

When you do a service for the forum, people will respect you and listen to your future posts.

You weigh these words and decide for yourself whether to post his rubbish or not.  I can assure you, Addonai will ban him AGAIN (he probably begged his way back on.). 

If his system was that good, he'd be traveling the world and winning and living like a King!!  Instead he's selling us.

Use your own judgment.

Feel free to cut and paste this; I've said nothing I wouldn't want the forum to know.

thanks sam! was just raring to go!

dear all,

today i had a pretty interesting conversation with this guy called murph. he added me to his msn and has been chatting with me ever since..

excerpts of the conversation..


"
john says : hi
anand says : hi there
john says : are u there
anand says : yes, we got cut the last time.. you were telling me of this new system you have
john says : yes its amazing, you have already seen my corner system..i posted it for free so everyone could enjoy it
john says : you can ask anyone, im a trustworthy guy
anand says : hmm so tell me about your new system
john says : its only for private sale
john says : its a 100% winning system
john says : you can go to rouletteforum.net.. ask anyone everyone will tell u im a trustworthy guy
anand says : how much it costs
john says : it took 10 months to develop , so i can give it to you for 500 pounds
anand says : how can i be sure it will win everytime
john says : i can give a guarantee. it is 100%
john says : but u cannot share it. if u do i will sue you
anand says : but i will share it with my family
john says : then im sorry i cant share it with you, its not for sale
anand says : ok fine, no issues
john says : everyone will tell u im a trustworthy guy
anand says : hmm..whats ur view on vls , sam
john says :  rubbish..they are all rubbish
anand says : and the rest lanky, bear, matty
john says : some are ok..have some friends there
john says : but u should come on rouletteforum.net
john says : its a much nicer place , more serious
anand says : i see.. what if the system fails, how will i get my money back
john says : lol
john says : the system will never fail
john says : you will recover your money in 1 day playing at casinos
anand says : if its so good why u wanna sell
john says : if u had it you would sell too
anand says : i dunno
john says : im telling u , you would
john says : i will also give u guidance on how to play there
john says : everyone trusts me. im 53 and never cheated anyone
john says : at vls ppl are not all clean
anand says : i see.. hmm..let me think.. you sure i will win.. then i wanna buy
john says : u have already seen my corner system that i posted free
anand says : yes let me think


dear forum,

how can we take this ? what are your views


dear murph,

victor doesnt "demand" respect. he commands it. its ok if u dont respect him. but being on his forum, poaching on his members and saying rude things about him is something else. pls dont.

[addonai]

Another seller ( murph) has been banned from this forum ...

Any more sellers ?? because really the ban list is empty and does not be used until now but I see that in the last days it will be full  .

Best regards

Addonai

[VLSroulette]

Hi mate, I don't "command" respect. That is something each one earns it.

Remember that to avoid being biased, this forum has 2 admins and 9 (yes, nine) global moderators.

I recall after murph was banned at 1st time I removed the ban to murph when fellow admin Addonai took the user down, at that time wrote a post pleading for Murph to give him another chance (literally named: "Sharing, not selling") as he told me he wasn't selling anything and I believed him.

I will not make any opinions as to why he is selling. I am simply grown enough; each one can do as one wishes. Only thing I can comment is our forum users should know by now this is a SHARING place, so users should never ever buy any system.



As to this quote:

anand says : hmm..whats ur view on vls , sam
john says :  rubbish..they are all rubbish

No comments. but John/Murph has me at messenger, perhaps he will coment why he qualifies me like this 1 on 1 with me in private. I'd like to know directly from him what I did to earn that.

Anyway, I have been named worse at GG. [smiley=lolk.gif]



Plenty of people around meet each other at RouletteForum.net I can't have any grudge against it. The only thing that bothered me was losing all of my posts regarding Lw strategy I posted there, but I don't regret the friends I made thanks to it.



By their fruits you know the tree. Let anyone be known by its own fruis; be it me or anyone else, each of us elaborate our own image with our own actions. In the end we are the ones who place ouselves where we should be.

I consider noone my enemy, if there is someone against me that is a 1-side deal.

Best regards from your friend,
Victor

[Boo_Ray]

For me, VLS will remain the most organised and helpfull roulette forum [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[AnandMajumdar]

Hi mate, I don't "command" respect. That is something each one earns it.

hey victor,

thats exactly what it means. I dont mean to say u command me or anyone to respect you or anything, it happens automatically cause of the person you are.. and you really are something else 

and thank you boo_ray

i have studied a lot of forums and ppl online, and vlsroulette is also tops for me

[AnandMajumdar]

thanks addonai!

its funny we should be meeting this way.. but how are you senor ?
pleased to meet you

anand

[addonai]

Hi Anand... how are you mate ?

I am fine thanks hoping you the best . try to enjoy with us and forget the system sellers hahaha. all of them are scammer and do not deserve one dollar for there systems.

Hope to talk with you soon.

Best regards

Addonai

[AnandMajumdar]

yes sir.. i totally agree with you.. am glad you did what you did. i was seething, every minute of that conversation i had with him. 

where are you from ? how long have you been playing.. any advice for me .. i am new

andy

[Lanky]

Hi Forum

I better set the record straight.

It was Me who Instigated that Murph be allowed back on the Forum in the 1st place.

Here's the story.

Murph/John contacted me and asked if I could get him back on the Forum.

So I pleaded His Case to Addonia and Lebear in a chat that we had.

Addonia agreed as long as I made it perfectly clear about the rules.

Lebear & I then talked to Murph and told Him in no uncertain manner that amongst other things there were two things He could not do

1) Not to try Selling His system to anyone from Our Forum at any time in the future.
2) Not to Go calling people names or putting them down and swearing at them like he did to Sam etc.

He agreed to everything.

He has used Me & betrayed My Trust.....and ignored what LeBear & I told Him He must NOT do.

I am completely finished with the man forever.

Oh and by the way His system which I DO NOT have is NOT a 100% winner.(I don't know of any that is)
So He can't Guarantee that it is.( Like He has done )
He could NOT beat Air-ball Roulette with it....in fact IT FAILED MISERBLY.
He wanted to restart again with the same numbers...I Refused...
Reverse Engineering I am sure was on the Agenda........it had to be otherwise it could not work.

So if Your looking for someone to Blame for His reappointment to the Forum.
Look no further.
It was Me........Addonia & Lebear are not to blame in anyway shape or form...They just opened their Hearts to what I had to say.
And I was wrong........its happened before you know .......Lmao
Would I do the same thing again for another Member in the future.??
Probably Yes if I thought they were Genuine........Like that other Prick did

Should I have My Global Moderator Status taken from Me.?? 

That's up to Victor & Addonia to decide.

I just did My Best with what I believed was the right thing for that Member at that Time.


Your Friend.

Lanky

[xman1970]

NOBODY will want to remove you as a Moderator you soft sod 


As you know Lanky you did the right thing and gave somebody a second chance......

No shame in that dude....

Unfortunately that guy was a %&*" or a £$"$%^$£$$%%£

You weren't to know dude....

[WannaWin]

I have read and I quote now.

"john says : I can give a guarantee. it is 100%"
   He'll believe the guarantee of a system vendor? "Honest Murph used cars" guarantee.

"john says : its a 100% winning system"
"anand says : I see.. what if the system fails, how will I get my money back
john says : lol
john says : the system will never fail"

  Amazing. What impossible to achieve in the randomness of the game already has it: 100% certainty. There is 99.99% advertised by other vendors but 100%. Incredible! The man should be in the record book from guinness.

"john says : but u cannot share it. if u do I will sue you"
   How about if system doesn't work buyer will sue the seller? Why buyer is screwed and vendor makes him sign legal contract to not sue the seller always?

"anand says : hmm..whats ur view on vls , sam
john says :  rubbish..they are all rubbish"
And
"john says : but u should come on rouletteforum.net
john says : its a much nicer place , more serious"
   (Serious when it comes to selling system for $2000 from the owner of the forum)

"how can we take this ? what are your views":
  These are my views:

The Roulette Forum .net website is run by steve hourmousis the known scammer.

All systems vendors like murph like that page and recommend. The roulette forum net has a sales section for systems which attract them. Murph is a system vendor himself and the administrator there is a system vendor they are at the same level and taste. He feels at home, here a stranger.

We expect that a system vendor says that the VLS forum is a good forum? Here vls never allows the sale of systems. Here all the people are against the sale of systems: members, moderators and the administrators.

Is this a good forum for system vendors? NOT! I am not surprised to read that vls is the bad guy if it coming from scammer.

This is good forum for roulette enthusiast, not for the scammers.

Vls continue with your good work. Moderators continue their good work. Keeping this forum clean of people like murph. Rather murph and others like him go to the site of steve hourmousis and not return.
Ever.

Selling system? Go to:
Gambling Systems For Sale at the Gambler Glen:
nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&forum=Gambling_Systems_For_Sale
And go to:
Gambling Systems for Sale section at the Roulette FOrum .net
nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?b-GamblingSystemsforSale/

Forget here at VLS forum. All users of this forum we want to be kept free of vendors.

WannaWin

[Roulette787]

All I can say is,

Murph's corner system failed miserably with Rx simulations.
You can test for yourself with the Rx code posted.

[addonai]

@Anand , I am from Spain mate . I spent 8 years ago playing roulette and more studying it.

@Lanky , your action was the best , everyone deserves a second chance my dear Lanky as we are human and nobody is out of mistakes .

Dears , please THINK AND USE MIND , ¿ who has a gold egg that gives him money every month and go to market and sells it ? I have tested the system with Murph in messenger and it was a cathastrofic system that hits one time and fails 100 . I think that here in this forum nobody has bought systems more than me .from systems with 30 $ to systems of 2000 $ , softwares and more .and to be sincere, I did not make any dollar with all these systems , all of them are rubbish and sure if I ask a baby to play with mouse and place random numbers , he will hit more than them.

ALL THE SELLERS ARE PURE SCAMMERS AND IF THEY WIN WITH THERE SYSTEMS THEY NEVER WILL SEEL IT .KEEP THIS IN MIND.

Best regards.

Addonai

[TwoCatSam]

Wasn't going to comment on this thread, but this bit of wisdom just knocked me over.

"nobody is out of mistakes" 

I've been trying to run out of mistakes for years, but I seem to always have a few left to pull out of the bag!

Yes, Lanky, you have a forgiving heart.  No apology needed.

Sam

[Lanky]

Hi Guys.

Thanks For the support.....Its really Appreciated.

@xman1970

Unfortunately that guy was a %&*" or a £$"$%^$£$$%%£

You Spell Badly Mate........hahahhahahhahahhaha.......rotflmao

Good On Ya Mates

Lanky

[Lanky]

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