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This looks interesting

Started by Taker, December 25, 2010, 05:43:43 AM

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Taker

Hello

I have come across a system that looks interesting.

Here is how it goes!
1. Start with a bet of 10 units on a column.
2. Bet on columns and bet on the last winner with 1 unit. Now if there is a win, then decrease the bet with
1 unit, if a loss, then increase with 1 unit.

I thinks this is really sweet. When I calculate on the possibility to win here, it gives me a 96% chance of
winning which makes this system really interesting.

Any thoughts on this one?


opikos

would you give an example for us to understand better?

HansHuckebein

and would please also explain your 96% chance of winning calculation?! :haha:

iggiv

it can work only temporarily. then u gonna lose. stiff rules like this (especially based on a table layout) are just a very nice way to say goodbye to your bankroll

schoenpoetser

Please can you explain me clearly the difference between  wagering "Table-layout"and wagering on the cilinder-layout.In my opinion there is no difference concerning the chance. The advantage of the roulette for the table layout can be less than 2,7.

iggiv

roulette is basically random. but if the wheel has a bias (and the player can use it), or the player can use visual ballistics or dealer signature  then wheel based layout is an advantage. also some players (like Victor) claim to see and be able to use some patterns on a wheel (distance between pockets and so on). It is next to impossible (without big downdraw in a long run) when u play for example dozens or columns based on table layout.

also -- there is a question, why creators of a roulette wheel as we know it (double or single zero) did not leave the same numerical order on a wheel, so the table and wheel would correlate to each other. There should be some serious reason why they changed the wheel layout, i don't think they did it just for fun, and i  am sure (and this is not only my opinion) this was not an accident, and this was done not for the benefit of players of course.

as for table and wheel layout -- ask yourself this question. Say you play dozens. or red/black. this is equal that u play the same 12 or 18 number groups, all the time the same 12 or 18 number groups. You can't change it. the circumstances change all the time -- but not your bets.  and when u play single numbers (no matter how based they are -- table or wheel) u still can change the groups any way u want. be it different 12, 18 number groups or whatever else. Where u can see more chances to "fool" the randomness? I am not saying it can be fooled this way, but where are MORE CHANCES to be lucky? with the same group numbers or with changing number groups?
think about it, ask yourself this question and try to answer it yourself.


schoenpoetser

As said before ,I don`t believe in VB ,DS  and sectorplaying.I believe in a fair roulette which create a fair random row.The sequence must fill out the mathematics rules.
For the table-layout chances it is much easier to develop systems or to play a strategy.
Because the EV of the chances of the table-layout is less than the EV for numbers wagering table-layout is more profitable.

iggiv

Quote from: schoenpoetser on December 27, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
As said before ,I don`t believe in VB ,DS  and sectorplaying.I believe in a fair roulette which create a fair random row.The sequence must fill out the mathematics rules.
For the table-layout chances it is much easier to develop systems or to play a strategy.
Because the EV of the chances of the table-layout is less than the EV for numbers wagering table-layout is more profitable.

u r making this famous mistake many players do. yes, table looks nice and attractive and easy to bet. that's why it was created. but in reality your losses will be bigger if  u play with table layout. Just calculate proportions.

if u play even chances red/black, u play all 18 numbers with say 1 unit.

if u play them individually u put 1 unit on each. Yes, in absolute value u put 18 times more money. But say u won with your your red -- u got 1 unit. but with 18 numbers if u won  u got 18 units -- the same amount u put on. Still because of the randomness of the game your different 18 numbers have more chances to appear than your red or black. think about it. proportionally u will be in advantage.

but it is up to you, if u like playing table -- i don't mind. I just gave u an idea, u can either use it or reject it, no problem.


schoenpoetser

We all try to beat the house edge ,but there are a few who will succeed.So it is better to start that you will lose.
Play 100 spins red with one unit.On average you lose 1,35 unit.Play 18 numbers Red in the cylinder and you will lose
18x100x2,7%=48,6 units.This simply calculation you can do for all bets.
In my opinion is a bet on a sixline better than a bet on 6 numbers.You can play on table bets beautiful systems strategies.

schoenpoetser

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