colors

[Norman Bates]

3 chips on 0, and 00

3 chips on 1st dozen, 3rd dozen, column A, Column C, and numbers 8/11,26/29

6 chips on numbers 14/15,22/23

9 chips on 4/7,6/9,28/31,30/33

12 chips on 17/20

84 total 1000 buy-in

[ADulay]

25,000 spins on RX.

-109,000 units.

Back to the drawing board.

AD

[Norman Bates]

you know ADelay, It would be nice if you had some advise to go with all the constructive criticism you dish out so well.

Like duck off a wadders back, or is it water off a ducks back.  I always forget which.  Nothing lasts forever ADelay, I just want some fast cash.  Get it?

[pins]

my advice if you want some fast cash. second job or overtime.

[Norman Bates]

thanks again ADelay

[ADulay]

you know ADelay, It would be nice if you had some advise to go with all the constructive criticism you dish out so well.

Like duck off a wadders back, or is it water off a ducks back.  I always forget which.  Nothing lasts forever ADelay, I just want some fast cash.  Get it?

Norm,

  Man, I just run the stuff, I don't use it.  You post up stuff, I run it and report back to you because obviously you don't test this stuff at all.   We've all given you advice, but you refuse to listen.   Now I get yelled at because I'm reporting back what the results are.

  If it will keep you happy, I will refrain from commenting on your future efforts.

  Good luck and here's hoping we all move up in color this year!

  AD

[iggiv]

you know ADelay, It would be nice if you had some advise to go with all the constructive criticism you dish out so well.

Like duck off a wadders back, or is it water off a ducks back.  I always forget which.  Nothing lasts forever ADelay, I just want some fast cash.  Get it?

I wouldn't mind some fast cash either. But what makes u think that if u put as many chips as possible, u will get a fast cash?

think about it. Lets say you cover 37 numbers out of 38. u will make a few units, that's right. till u get that one uncovered number which will eat all of your winnings. And on average u will get zero. Minus house edge. So what did u do? But if u go with progressions, it is gonna be even worse. Because u will go deeper and deeper and finally will manage to catch the coldest waves.

no way out unless you come up with some other idea. You should not just cover the wheel without looking at what happened already. Statistically we know the "law of the 3rd". Absolutely most coming numbers on average will be those from last 37 spins. So this is what could make sense to work with. It does not mean though that if u cover all numbers which came up within last 37 spins, u will come out a winner...No fast cash guaranteed in roulette. I am sorry...

[Norman Bates]

I can see what you're saying definitely.  I seem to be haunted by gamblers fallacy chasing my winnings.  I have improved on it since my last posting up above.  It seems like it can force a profit of some kind, but if you read about the basics of the listing, listed under "system of eights" you can tell that I work in sections, or quadrants, (as I call them) so you have some room to move your chips around.  

What I would really like to know is based on the wheel itself how should I arrange these bets in their quadrant to take a a fuller advantage over the house.  Like I so  desperately demonstrated with this "color" bull s**t. I thought to myself, there must be a better way to organize  things.  With this thing I am working now I feel like I might be making some headway in that direction.  Not just seeing patterns, but actually using the sections of the wheel itself to improve my game.  Maybe learn how to move things around between spins to force a win, but I can't MAKE the wheel do anything.  I've even tried finessing.  

what I was trying to do was maybe take it to a new level.  Expand my horizons, learn something new that I didn't know, or just see if I could evolve this thing somehow.   I was trying to arrange things by color,  but as you've stated,  because of the gravity of the 0's that's kinda out the window also, not to mention the fact that doing it was at the expense of the very root of my bet arrangements on the layout itself.  I've ran it enough times on the simulator to know better.

On top of that, the logistics of the system would be a nightmare to post on a live game.  This hole thing started out for me on Bodog.com, and I think that's where I'm at right now, and you certainly can't fight the odds playing at that game. So, for me I don't think roulette will be anything more than a hobby for me.  So, I'm thinking I should probably move on the greener pastures.  Or be put out to pasture.  One of the two.  I would love to try it on a live game though.  Maybe someday.  I must really be crazy, but I really do think I can win, and that's all that really counts for me, don't you think?

[darrynf]

try using this method

10units on 1st dozen, 10 units on 3rd dozen, 1 unit each on the black or red numbers in the middle dozen.

i ahve played this system and think it has potential as it nearly wins all the time, 78% of the time.

i had trouble making a progression for it as i havent seen it lose 3 times in a row, its very successful but when it gets when it gets two loses you lose alot, i think i did creat a 3 step progression but it needs a longer progression.

i know this works as the player who uses it makes his living online, i couldnt figure out a safe progression for it.
i tested it out and it did make more money then it lost, either 4 or 10 profit. any ideas in how you could get a higher progession, i may even do a thread on it.

any opinion would be much appreciated.

[Norman Bates]

thats cool thanks for asking.  I'm bushed right now so I'll check it out in the morning.  Thank for you time...

[darrynf]

thats cool thanks for asking.  I'm bushed right now so I'll check it out in the morning.  Thank for you time...

not a problem

[Norman Bates]

Norm,

 Man, I just run the stuff, I don't use it.  You post up stuff, I run it and report back to you because obviously you don't test this stuff at all.   We've all given you advice, but you refuse to listen.   Now I get yelled at because I'm reporting back what the results are.

 If it will keep you happy, I will refrain from commenting on your future efforts.

 Good luck and here's hoping we all move up in color this year!

 AD

OK Adulay, I just make these posts, I don't gamble on them.  Maybe that's why you taunt me so much.  You know I put a lot of effort into my work, and I shouldn't mind some constructive criticism, but all you do is complain.  I would love to have the money to play my, "system of eights" listing, and of course I test these betting strategies.  You think I'm just a joke?  I can be serious I guess, but why should I.  I enjoy fooling around as much as the next guy, and it's not that I don't like you.  You just take some getting used to that's all.

I swear, if you were here right now I think you might hit my hands with a ruler or some "thing".  It's like you want to be 86'st from the joint! I think the world is big enough for the both of us though.  Don't you?  I know what you are thinking.  Your saying, "I don't understand what your getting at.  None of it makes any since!  How can I help you?".  I've tried to explain before, and you couldn't understand.  If you run it and you don"t like it fine.  Just please don't blame me.  Blame somebody else.  Like the guy who invented the game.  How about that?.


I guess I'll be happy to see you around.  OK? OK.

[ADulay]

  If it will keep you happy, I will refrain from commenting on your future efforts.

  Good luck and here's hoping we all move up in color this year!

  AD

Norman,

  See the above quote.

  You are now free to move about the roulette table, unencumbered by my reports.

  AD

[ADulay]

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