The ultimate roulette system

[gizmotron]

I'm an Aerospace Engineer and have worked with randomness for 40 years - I know of no super secret discoveries on randomness; there are NO patterns nor anything you can use to take past random events and forecast future random outcomes.

I know that no one has found anything not published and if you could look at random events and accurately forecast future events the first thing they would do is buy a single PowerBall lottery ticket and never work again.

I hope you get this part of the discussion. I refuse to kill off the golden goose by publishing my secrets to the entire world for free. Even if everyone were to pay for it I would refuse to do it. The point being that if everyone knew these secrets it would no longer be a viable opportunity to exploit. The casinos would shut it down. They would be forced to shut it down. So I won't answer your questions.

BTW, you need past spins to be predictive not me. You are always going to be right if you stay stuck on that. So congratulations, you have an assumption that I agree with and is safely inside your logical conclusions. Only it's not my secret. I charge about $10 per hour, a minimum of 30 hours training to teach my secrets. For what I teach I should charge $50 per hour minimum. I do this because it's fun to watch people open their eyes. It's a form of discussion that has never been argumentative. So far I have been successful teaching this. So far all the students have kept their identities secret.

[gizmotron]

Come on, just one prediction....

Your test is outside the bounds of intelligent context with regards to randomness. At least as it relates to Roulette, a game played with 37 or 38 choices and a table layout that creates identifiable groupings. I use context to my advantage. Your test is too minimal to produce viable data.

[MauiSunset]

I hope you get this part of the discussion. I refuse to kill off the golden goose by publishing my secrets to the entire world for free. Even if everyone were to pay for it I would refuse to do it. The point being that if everyone knew these secrets it would no longer be a viable opportunity to exploit. The casinos would shut it down. They would be forced to shut it down. So I won't answer your questions.

BTW, you need past spins to be predictive not me. You are always going to be right if you stay stuck on that. So congratulations, you have an assumption that I agree with and is safely inside your logical conclusions. Only it's not my secret. I charge about $10 per hour, a minimum of 30 hours training to teach my secrets. For what I teach I should charge $50 per hour minimum. I do this because it's fun to watch people open their eyes. It's a form of discussion that has never been argumentative. So far I have been successful teaching this. So far all the students have kept their identities secret.

Ok, I'll officially place you in the column "refused to predict" - that's OK.

How about a former/present student?  If you've not signed a non disclosure agreement (NDA) then I encourage you to guess odd or even for today's DJIA.

You can PM if you don't want the fame - just PM your prediction and I promise no one will know who you are, but I must publish the prediction and will give Gizmo a chance to accept or reject the prediction of the unnamed student.

I'm trying to work with you guys....

[MauiSunset]

Your test is outside the bounds of intelligent context with regards to randomness. At least as it relates to Roulette, a game played with 37 or 38 choices and a table layout that creates identifiable groupings. I use context to my advantage. Your test is too minimal to produce viable data.

So are you saying that your method doesn't work on Internet casinos?

The Mod function is the key to generating random numbers - like the ones in all computerized casino games and your car key - your car key's chip and the receiver in your car use the same Mod function and synchronize to allow your key to open the doors; both generate the same exact random number sequence.

Military grade random number generators have a way of sampling "white noise" from a radio, for instance, to generate one-time key code pads that the military use for high security installations and go-codes.

By using the DJIA there is NO pseudo-random number generator involved - it is a true random number just like the physical roulette wheel.  (0 to 37 or 0 to 38 with 0 being green 0 and 37 being green 00)

You'd have to supply me with a link or reference to convince me otherwise.....

[gizmotron]

I'm not saying that your choice for generating random outcomes is not random. I'm saying that six outcomes is not enough data to generate useful context. I'm a computer programmer and have built a real world simulation of all the effects that a ball encounters as it works it's way around a roulette wheel and that eventually falls into any random slot. So I really do understand the difference between pseudo random and real random. I can assure you that most computers produce an accurate enough simulated randomness to please any testers staying below 500,000 spins. And beyond that resetting the random seed every half million spins produces accurate testing into the billions of spins.

[MauiSunset]

I'm not saying that your choice for generating random outcomes is not random. I'm saying that six outcomes is not enough data to generate useful context. I'm a computer programmer and have built a real world simulation of all the effects that a ball encounters as it works it's way around a roulette wheel and that eventually falls into any random slot. So I really do understand the difference between pseudo random and real random. I can assure you that most computers produce an accurate enough simulated randomness to please any testers staying below 500,000 spins. And beyond that resetting the random seed every half million spins produces accurate testing into the billions of spins.

How do you use your techniques to gamble then?  I guess I'm guilty of making the leap that your system/technique is gambling oriented.

You walk up to a European Roulette wheel or American version if you want to get creamed, and what do you do next?

I'm guessing that if you use your cell phone to record 8 hours of roulette spins someone besides the waitress will drop by and have a chat with you.....

[gizmotron]

How do you use your techniques to gamble then?  I guess I'm guilty of making the leap that your system/technique is gambling oriented.

It's conditions oriented. I've taught myself a language to identify and relate to changing conditions. Having no mentor I decided to do it my way. I taught myself how to deal with it. I stopped using false information, magical thinking, and stereotypical assumptions. I stopped using valueless beliefs. I discovered what is there and how simple it really is to see it. You are a smart guy. Why don't you start with all that is there to use as real data information. It's right in front of you, only you can't see it yet.

[MauiSunset]

It's conditions oriented. I've taught myself a language to identify and relate to changing conditions. Having no mentor I decided to do it my way. I taught myself how to deal with it. I stopped using false information, magical thinking, and stereotypical assumptions. I stopped using valueless beliefs. I discovered what is there and how simple it really is to see it. You are a smart guy. Why don't you start with all that is there to use as real data information. It's right in front of you, only you can't see it yet.

Well, sounds great but I'm going to just keep doing what I've been doing for years - have a lot of fun gambling.

I spent 5 years studying a stock guy called W.D. Gann - he had some original ideas too.  I traveled to many locations in North America to seek out Gann gurus and after 5 years, and spending 6 figures, I had to come up with the conclusion that Gann was just another huckster.  Even today the only folks making money from his techniques are the folks selling "secret" Gann methods.


I still encourage folks to give my DJIA roulette a try - I'll publish the next spin tonight.

[bombus]

Today the DJIA closed at 11,977. 19 which generates another 29 on the wheel:

This is someone's big opportunity to demonstrate that what they sell is worth more than 2 cents.   .   .   .   .   

Here's some spins generated from the DJIA:
1/18/2011   11,837. 93   15
1/19/2011   11,825. 29   9
1/20/2011   11,822. 80   19
1/21/2011   11,871. 84   2
1/24/2011   11,980. 52   29
1/25/2011   11,977. 19   29

As I said predicting random future outcomes from a random input, like a Roulette wheel, is impossible - no one has ever done it nor will it ever be done in the future.

Gambling is all about knowing the odds which is 100% math and your control over money management, which you have 100% control over.   This goes for any game in a casino.

Leave predicting the future up to fortune tellers. . . .

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[MauiSunset]

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Thank you; but let's get the bet in before the DJIA closes - the close is normally adjusted for 15 - 120 minutes or so after the close.  The official close will appear here nolinks://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=^DJI+Historical+Prices

I will not comment on any prediction either pro or con.  As we all know the reason gambling is called gambling is because there risk and one outcome is just part of the overall puzzle.

If you'd like to place a wager that would be even better.  E.g. $5 on Black or $5 on 1st 12, etc. (not for real of course)

[MauiSunset]

Date   Close   Spin
1/26/2011   11,985.44   3
1/25/2011   11977.19   29
1/24/2011   11980.52   29
1/21/2011   11871.84   2
1/20/2011   11822.8   19
1/19/2011   11825.29   9
1/18/2011   11837.93   15
1/14/2011   11787.38   29
1/13/2011   11731.9   31
1/12/2011   11755.44   17
1/11/2011   11671.88   23
1/10/2011   11637.45   21
1/7/2011   11674.76   15
1/6/2011   11697.31   13
1/5/2011   11722.89   18
1/4/2011   11691.18   29
1/3/2011   11670.75   21

[gizmotron]

The next pseudo spin is odd. But it really doesn't matter if it wins or loses. Don't you want to know why?

[MauiSunset]

The next pseudo spin is odd. But it really doesn't matter if it wins or loses. Don't you want to know why?

Ok, so Bet $5 on odd?

If you don't care whether it wins or loses then must be part of a setup with following spins being the bet(s)?

3 is in the corner forming a zig-zag pattern down the board, 3-5-7-11-15-17-19-23-27-29-31-35 with 29 being on this pattern for the previous 2 spins and 15,17,19, 23, and 31 were on this pattern too.

This would be called a vibration of numbers with a subset of odd vibrating.  At least that's what a lot of folks who believe in number vibrations believe - numbers vibrating within the confines of the roulette board.

15 out of the last 17 numbers were odd too.

[gizmotron]

You'd be far better off saving the vibrations for your girl tools.

[pins]

picking even money chanches proves nothing. the key is to pick five numbers. together on the wheel. going on past results.  and make a profit.

[pins]

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