Call It Whatever.....

[Mr J]

I suck with subject lines. Well, I've been messing with another form of trend betting. I posted something similar in the past but I have it nailed down damn good.

Lets say 45 spins per hour (live or airball). 7 hours per day max., 315 total spins. I am looking for a lousy +3 units on the even bets. Yep, +3 and go home. I bet $200 per spin, so that's +$600 net, go home. My BR.....$5,600. It is a lot, I admit that but $200 per, I need it to be high. I can't walk in with 1K.

Like I posted in the past, I start off with either red or black. Betting on the LAST to show. Hoping to catch a nice streak. If it gets choppy (open to interpretation), I switch to odd/even. If that gets choppy, back to red/black. I really don't mess with high/low, just my preference.


Think about it, +3 in 315 spins, that's it. I believe in the higher bets as opposed to a goal of $600 BUT using $25 units, screw that. I have played over 23 times and have NEVER lost. Worse case so far? Down $3,800. My best? A few times I have won on the FIRST 3 spins, went home. Show me where you can't get to +3 in 315 spins.


Ken

[gizmotron]

Great job Ken. May I suggest an idea. If you don't get way down those few times that it happens then you don't have to dig your way back out. I have learned to hunt down and find the most optimal stretches that come and go. If you don't dig a big hole searching for them then you can get your +3 with less strain. Only one way to do this. Don't bet every bet while you search. You can play from a standing position and just by reaching in for the few bets that really pay off. If you practice doing this you will perfect doing it with your own style and meaning. After all, you are seeing the trends your way. That's your own already.

[Mr J]

......and I am considering (drum roll), $300 per so I only need +2 units, go home. A higher BR would be needed but who in the hell cant get to +2? The key is not to get greedy.

Ken

[gizmotron]

You are a smart guy, and probably the most qualified person on this board regarding progressions. I came up with a quick progression to get to +3. I used 1, 3, 7, 15 to get 1, 2, 3, 4 in one to four steps respectively. Now we both know that you don't have to just bang away at it in four succinct steps. You can wait for each step of that progression. In a way, play it smart.

Now I played around with it for a while. You must treat it as a single event if you are to use trends and randomness for the bet selection process. If you lose, you lose 26. If you run that progression for only for three steps then all you lose is 11. You win at around four to eight times for each loss. It varies because randomness varies. So if you are good at reading those conditions you can bang away and get +3 in just three spins. It's really fun to experiment with this. You will see times that just work great. And you will know that they would be great before you go for it. Some times randomness just lines up and opens up opportunities. I'll bet you can beat me doing this. I mean that you can win more sessions than I would in shorter time.

[schoenpoetser]

Ken did you see my stats of the rouletteplayersclub.Never a lost session.Members can watch me how I do this.

[buffalowizard]

Hi J,

Here's a quick run I done myself. I'm guessing you're just using your own intuition on when to switch to odds/evens, rather than if you're a certain amount of units down.

LWWLWLLLWLWWLWWWLLWWL  +1, decided to switch here

LLLWWWLWLWLLLLWWWWWW   +3

BW

[Mike]

Mr J, if you're going to play a negative expectation game, you're going the right way about it.  
What I don't understand is why you choose to play roulette at over 5% HA when you could play baccarat or craps which only has one third of the vig. Those zeros add up!

I know someone who claims to do a similar thing, he plays craps and aims for $200/day (+2 units) betting "decision before last". But he does have a reserve of $50,000.  

[hermes]

Big bankroll needed and danger of growing a long beard or even get retired during session of 300 spins.
It is boring and you need iron patience and lot of coffee because you can easily fall a sleep. In land casino your marathon appearance will draw huge attention of pit bosses. You will know them soon all by the name!
Not practical at all. Why not call the system Hiroshima?
Cheers Hermes

[Mr J]

"It is boring and you need iron patience and lot of coffee because you can easily fall a sleep. In land casino your marathon appearance will draw huge attention of pit bosses. You will know them soon all by the name!" >>> Regardless of the method, MOST times I play 6-12 hours, not a big deal. Like I said with THIS method, you can get to +3 in under an hour, go home!

Yes, I do know pit and floor by their names, again, who cares? They are not gonna say, 'Oh oh, Ken is here, shut the place down'.

Also, we have airball roulette which I play maybe 30% of the time. Having patience is the LEAST of my concern. I mastered patience/waiting a LONG TIME ago.

Getting to +2 or +3 units on the EC's in 315 is very easy but because most people play $10-$25 per unit, +3 (go home) is not possible. Who is gonna go home with a $20 profit? Not many, not me.

Ken

[Kingspin]

I think you forgot about the 0 (euro wheel) 0r even worse still the extra 0 on the 00 (usa)  ken. Big bets on even chances for me at least I would say very risky and betting on the zero's to cover the bet sucks big time , the green bits always hit when you least expect it.  200 dollars down and green hits then time to get the anti depressants out.  

The amount of times the green has hit when I  put bigger bets on even chances I think I can remember them all each and every miserable one.

[Mr J]

As far as a zero rule? I forget nothing. If a zero(s) hits, I bet on the outcome beforehand. A zero hitting does suck but its a loss regardless. Come on guys.......+3 for the ENTIRE day of playing? For the people playing with $10 units, they DON'T notice +3. At $200 per, you will (or should) notice it.

Ken

[hoper35]

Another great idea, Ken! 



Ron.

[Mr J]

I played today, $200 per bet. Got to +3 ($600) in around 75 minutes. The red/black was a bit choppy so I switched and I'm glad I did. I CAUGHT a nice streak of even numbers, hit my goal, went home.

Ken

[Allin]

Ken,

I like all your systems, except this.

[Mr J]

IMO, I think the method on its own is stable. However, the unit size is not for everyone. I would find it VERY hard to believe that a person cant get to +3 on the EC's in 315 spins.

Ken

[Mr J]

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