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Is this the best system?

Started by klasnos, March 11, 2011, 06:57:56 AM

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klasnos

Hi I am new here and I have been playing roulette for a few years now and I have tried many systems.   I play online and also in physical casinos.   As you all already know there are no system that will make us win constantly.   It is just the hit and run method that will make us win some money. 

BUT what if we play in an online casino which allow playing with chips of $0. 1 and we play with the martingale system (of just doubling up until you get a win).   I tried this in some online casino (in demo mode) and it worked well.   I also saw some videos on youtube where some people say they are getting good returns with that. 

What do you think? And are you doing this already?

Cheers. 

Zindrod

You do not mention whether the online wheels are RNG or real wheels. But with 0.1 per number min I'm very sure it is RNG. Note how big the spread is between min and max per number when it comes to RNG. Ask yourself why even online live real wheels do not have those spreads. If we all agree that the roulette wheel is random and RNG is random then why have different spreads? Stay away from RNG.


klasnos

Thanks for your fast reply.  Yes it was RNG.  But still with such a low starting bet you will win after a few runs (even if RNG seems to cheat us!!).  This casino allowed a spread of $0. 1 to maximum of $50.  So, you win all the time.  What do you think?


Mike

Regardless of whether it's RNG, the risk reward ratio is not good with this type of system. You are counting on the fact that you won't lose 10 consecutive bets. If, (I should say WHEN) that happens, because it will if you play long enough, then you have a long climb to get back your profits.

By the way, "hit and run" doesn't give you any kind of advantage over someone who plays for 8 hours straight. A lot of hit and run sessions add up to one long one. This idea that hit and run will work is another enduring myth.  :(

Zindrod

$0.1 then 0.2 then 0.4 then 0.8 then 1.6 then 3.2 then 6.4 then 12.8 then 25.6 then 51.2

That is a 10 step marty... On real wheels 23 reds have been seen. On RNG you will see it more often.

Also. You are betting $51.20 to win $0.10  :whistle:

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: Zindrod on March 11, 2011, 07:31:45 AM
You do not mention whether the online wheels are RNG or real wheels. But with 0.1 per number min I'm very sure it is RNG. Note how big the spread is between min and max per number when it comes to RNG. Ask yourself why even online live real wheels do not have those spreads. If we all agree that the roulette wheel is random and RNG is random then why have different spreads? Stay away from RNG.



RNG is random, Physcial roueltte is NOT random.

The word random is invalid. Events happen for a reason "cause and effect" Its the exact same with roulette. If people get there head out there ass and actually do some real research about roulette, they will realise roulette is not random.



What really annoys is when people like your self tell people roulette is random when you are completely wrong. Maybe just keep your opinion to your self next time.

James.

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: klasnos on March 11, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Hi I am new here and I have been playing roulette for a few years now and I have tried many systems.   I play online and also in physical casinos.   As you all already know there are no system that will make us win constantly.   It is just the hit and run method that will make us win some money. 

BUT what if we play in an online casino which allow playing with chips of $0. 1 and we play with the martingale system (of just doubling up until you get a win).   I tried this in some online casino (in demo mode) and it worked well.   I also saw some videos on youtube where some people say they are getting good returns with that. 

What do you think? And are you doing this already?

Cheers. 

Hey man. If you saw videos on youtube, chances are this system is a scam and will not win long term. Martingale always leads to disaster so please don't bother with it or you will loose a lot of money.

Last thing, never play RNG.

James.

Zindrod

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on March 11, 2011, 09:54:28 AM
RNG is random, Physcial roueltte is NOT random.

The word random is invalid. Events happen for a reason "cause and effect" Its the exact same with roulette. If people get there head out there ass and actually do some real research about roulette, they will realise roulette is not random.



What really annoys is when people like your self tell people roulette is random when you are completely wrong. Maybe just keep your opinion to your self next time.

James.


I only agree that roulette is not random if you have an advantage because of tilt or bias. On a level wheel though it's as random as it gets. Yes you are going to say that the dealer spins at a certain force and the wheel moves at a certain speed so it's not random, yet scatter, deflectors etc. makes random. The proof is that if you take your average system you will loose at the house egde over time. If wheels were not random, every wheel would have bias results even if it would only be temporary bias.

iggiv

Quote from: klasnos on March 11, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Hi I am new here and I have been playing roulette for a few years now and I have tried many systems.   I play online and also in physical casinos.   As you all already know there are no system that will make us win constantly.   It is just the hit and run method that will make us win some money. 

BUT what if we play in an online casino which allow playing with chips of $0. 1 and we play with the martingale system (of just doubling up until you get a win).   I tried this in some online casino (in demo mode) and it worked well.   I also saw some videos on youtube where some people say they are getting good returns with that. 

What do you think? And are you doing this already?

Cheers. 


i think u must be kidding  but this is not funny

ReDsQuaD


schoenpoetser

Roulette is exciting game On the first place you must play it for pleasure.With any system you will have more pleasure than a random player.Do you play very often then a good money management important.I prefer a strategy based on statistic and mathematical rules.
With 0,10 euro units and a limit 0f 50 euro you can play my SSBmartingale with success and low risk.
My model of 10 doubles give about 70 units profit in 150 spins.Play 75 spins per hour and the profit is 3,5 euro.
How many hours do you have to play to become a millionair?My SSB model is a free excelprogram.

Kelly

You will have to play 285714 hours. Im not spending as much as 1/2 hour at the computer for 3,5 euro.

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: schoenpoetser on March 15, 2011, 07:01:45 AM
Roulette is exciting game On the first place you must play it for pleasure.With any system you will have more pleasure than a random player.Do you play very often then a good money management important. I prefer a strategy based on statistic and mathematical rules.
With 0,10 euro units and a limit 0f 50 euro you can play my SSBmartingale with success and low risk.
My model of 10 doubles give about 70 units profit in 150 spins.Play 75 spins per hour and the profit is 3,5 euro.
How many hours do you have to play to become a millionair?My SSB model is a free excelprogram.


Roulette cannot be beaten with mathematics, the only way to beat roulette is using pyhsics


A million years :)

James.

klasnos

Hi schoenpoetser thanks for the reply.  What is your SSBMartingale system? Can you please post the details.  Thanks man.

darrynf

in my opinion its not really about what progression you use, its about the system you use.

progressions only fail due to the typ of play you are playing or method, if its a shit method then progression wont work.
the only bonus you have with starting at low stakes or 0.10 cents is you are able to add a couple of steps to your progression, it still dosent make it a winner and when you bet say 100 bucks just to gain 10 cents well then its not worth the risk.

dont play it like that cause you will lose and lots. find a good system, this is proberly the hardest thing as it dosent mean you will make them work as well.

i will never play 100 spins just to get 5 bucks, not worth it, how about 30 spins for 100 - 200 bucks. thats how i play.

darrynf

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