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Started by pins, March 18, 2011, 06:23:19 PM

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pins

a lot of the posters claim to have the holy grail. why do they keep inventing new systems.

Twocando

They don't know how to use it, need to invent there own.

New VB to be posted, Just counting the rev's of ball in 1 wheel rev. Chart and play 6 numbers. Hit more than 6 out 10.
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Zindrod

Quote from: Twocando on March 19, 2011, 11:35:32 AM
They don't know how to use it, need to invent there own.

New VB to be posted, Just counting the rev's of ball in 1 wheel rev. Chart and play 6 numbers. Hit more than 6 out 10.
:diablo: :diablo: :diablo:




Sounds interesting. Cannot quite picture it though. Would love to see it though.  :angel:

schoenpoetser

The roulettegame makes it possible to design an endless number of systems.All systems have the same disadvantage  of the house edge of the roulette. So I suggest to form a committee or a jury  for a beauty contest for systems.

MauiSunset

Quote from: pins on March 18, 2011, 06:23:19 PM
a lot of the posters claim to have the holy grail. why do they keep inventing new systems.

This is a great topic!

Just in case folks don't know my position it's very simple:

Roulette has not been broken for 300 years and will stand for another 300 years - it is unbreakable.

By that I mean picking the next number, color, dozen, column, hi/lo, even/odd is impossible - the next spin of the Roulette wheel will yield a number between 0 and 36, inclusive, and each number is just as likely to spin out.

There is no science or math that says differently; Roulette is too simple of a game to be broken.

However, just because you can't guess the next number doesn't mean you can't make a profit.  That's two different aspects of the game Roulette - the number spun out and the winnings on the table.  Money management is where a profit can be made in Roulette - I am now very confident of that statement; have no desire to prove it but now believe it.

So break down Roulette into 2 components - 1) The number spun, which is random and you have NO control over and 2) Money management of the bet which you have 100% control over.

Money management is a very complex subject and is virtually unlimited in what can be done.  MM can be as simple as flat betting a random bet to redefining anything and everything to do with money at the table; your imagination is the limit.

But basically I see new gamblers falling for Gambler's Fallacy and reinventing a broken wheel accounting for the vast majority of "new" Roulette systems - total garbage being recycled until the gambler runs out of money and moves on to the next table game....

P.S.
The above applies to RNG Roulette and there is a whole world of studying the physical aspects of the ball, wheel, table, and croupier - I know nothing of these topics and can't render an opinion on them.  My gut feeling is that any possible advantage you can find with them is minuscule but that's just a wild guess on my part.  I've spent zero time investigating them so I defer to others on this topic.

My experience has been that there is no difference, in Money Management outcome, to whether you play a physical Roulette wheel or one driven by a RNG.  I can't find ANY difference between the two.

Zindrod

Quote from: MauiSunset on March 23, 2011, 08:13:35 AM
This is a great topic!

Just in case folks don't know my position it's very simple:

Roulette has not been broken for 300 years and will stand for another 300 years - it is unbreakable.

By that I mean picking the next number, color, dozen, column, hi/lo, even/odd is impossible - the next spin of the Roulette wheel will yield a number between 0 and 36 and each number is just as likely to spin out.

There is no science or math that says differently; Roulette is too simple of a game to be broken.

However, just because you can't guess the next number doesn't mean you can't make a profit.  That's two different aspects of the game Roulette - the number spun out and the winnings on the table.  Money management is where a profit can be made in Roulette - I am now very confident of that statement; have no desire to prove it but now believe it.

So break down Roulette into 2 components - 1) The number spun and 2) Money management of bet.

Money management is a very complex subject and is virtually unlimited in what can be done.  MM can be as simple as flat betting a random bet to redefining anything and everything to do with money at the table; your imagination is the limit.

But basically I see new gamblers falling for Gambler's Fallacy and reinventing a broken wheel accounting for all the vast majority of "new" Roulette systems - total garbage being recycled until the gambler runs out of money and moves on to the next table game....

Actually between 0-36 and including 0 and 36. Yes. Only advantage techniques can determine a positive outcome.

Zindrod

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