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If roulette results are totally independent to previous results and not connected to previous outcomes, what is the best way to play this in your opinion.  What do you think is the best way to play the chaotic results the wheel produces?  

Would you play the anti-trend? (betting against any obvious developing patterns or trends you see)
Would you play the chop, always playing for a change and never playing for a steak?
Or would you look at what has been happening as a whole and bet in general terms for it to continue, such as the most disorganized of the 3 E/C's?

[cheese]

Gizmo is inventing a magic box that will answer all your questions. All you have to do is wait. In the meantime, try and have a bet for every scenerio you see happening in front of you.

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Gizmo is inventing a magic box that will answer all your questions. All you have to do is wait. In the meantime, try and have a bet for every scenerio you see happening in front of you.

You see BBBBBB, OOOOOO & HHHHHH (relating to b/r, o/e, h/l) happening right in front of you, what's the next bet?

[schoenpoetser]

chaos is more than randomness.In a random sequence there are predictable events in the future.Though the ball has no memory you can predict R/B will be about 1 with a very small deviation.etc.

[cheese]

chaos is more than randomness.In a random sequence there are predictable events in the future

You're wording it wrong. The randomness in roulette is not pure chaos. Pure chaos in randomness can be achieved by recording radioactive material as it decays. What we see in roulette is chaotic and random, but its flawed. Its not in its purest form. In decaying radioactive material, there are no patterns, no law of series. Its just chaotic random jibberish.

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chaos is more than randomness.In a random sequence there are predictable events in the future.Though the ball has no memory you can predict R/B will be about 1 with a very small deviation.etc.

What do you mean "R/B will be about 1?" 

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You're wording it wrong. The randomness in roulette is not pure chaos. Pure chaos in randomness can be achieved by recording radioactive material as it decays. What we see in roulette is chaotic and random, but its flawed. Its not in its purest form. In decaying radioactive material, there are no patterns, no law of series. Its just chaotic random jibberish.

If you are saying decaying radioactive material is pure chaos consisting of NO patterns, then you are saying roulette is NOT pure chaos and consists of patterns.

According to you, there are no patterns in roulette, its just your imagination trying to make sense out of chaos.

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Did some research and came across this referring to random and chaos.


"The game of Roulette is an interesting example that might illustrate the distinction

between random and chaotic systems: If we study the statistics of the outcome of repeated

games, then we can see that the sequence of numbers is completely random. That led

Einstein to remark: "The only way to win money in Roulette is to steal it from the bank."

On the other hand we know the mechanics of the ball and the wheel very well and if we

could somehow measure the initial conditions for the ball/wheel system, we might be

able to make a short term prediction of the outcome. Exactly this has been done by a

group of Santa Cruz students who called themselves "Eudemonic Enterprises". Their

story how they used chaos theory to conquer the casinos of Las Vegas and Atlantic City

is described in [Bass, 1985]."

[Kelly]

It has  not really anything to do with what is discussed on these pages.  Its about a roulette computer using physichs as prediction.

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It has  not really anything to do with what is discussed on these pages.  Its about a roulette computer using physichs as prediction.

Yes I am aware.  The point was they used Chaos as the basis for their strategy.

[Kelly]

No, chaos has never been involved. You might wanna read the book.

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No, chaos has never been involved. You might wanna read the book.

The book is not the point, its irrelevant.  The relationship between chaos vs. random is what's interesting.  That was merely a quote, the relationship to those individuals and what they did is missing the point.

[Kelly]

Maybe im getting too old for these boards.  The relationship between chaos and random was not an issue for the Eudemonics strategy.

Never mind, probably just me missing the point.

[cheese]

then you are saying roulette is NOT pure chaos and consists of patterns.

Roulette has what appears to be patterns, but aren't really. Real chaos has no patterns at all, its just a mess.

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Roulette has what appears to be patterns, but aren't really. Real chaos has no patterns at all, its just a mess.

Another contradiction.  If roulette "appears" to have patterns and we can see them and identify them when they happen, then the game itself is indeed producing patterns.

When a person is consistently late for work, makes up tired excuses whenever they are suppossed to make a big presentation, and dodges important meetings, a boss can look back and see a pattern of irresponsibility.  That person can deny no pattern exists till the cows come home, but past performance shows a clear pattern that's written in stone.

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