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3 H/L System

Started by libertydog, April 13, 2011, 04:55:20 PM

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libertydog

A idea sparked from my DS System which so far is looking good, really could do with so input on how to make this work better, so any contribution will be much appreciated,good or bad  :thumbsup:

To start with I recorded lines of 3 H/L's and then recorded how many of them repeated,here is a short sample:

(lines are all f**ked up,sorry about that)

LLH
HLH  2
LHH  1
HHH  2  
HHH  3
LLH  1  
LHH  2  
LLH  2
LHH  2
LHL  2
LHH  2
HHH  2
HHL  2
HLL  2
HH0  1
LHH  1
LLH  2
LHH  2  
LHL  2
LHL  3
LLH  1
HLL  1  
LLL  2
LLH  2  
LL0  2
LHL  1
HHH  1
HLL  1
LLH  1
HHH  1
HLH  2
LLH  2
HLL  1
HHL  2
LHH  1
LLH  2
HHH  1
HLL  1
LHH  0
LHH  3
LLH  2
LHL  1
LHL  3


As you can see quite a few repeats, a lot more than I expected  :o


This is how it looks:

0)x
1)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
3)xxxx


From that the 2's are ahead and the 1's not far behind, but the 0 and 3's are next to nothing so best forgotten, have tried a few ways to take advantage of the 1's and 2's with different betting methods/progressions and the way I'm doing it goes like this:


I first thought about doing a short marty of 1,2,4 which would work well on my example, but just know when other tests  produce lots of losing line close together (which it will  ;D) then it could go downhill rapidly so a less dangerous way:

If after the first line of 3, bet for a repeat and it wins then go for the 2nd win, if successful then +2

If after the first line of 3 bet for a repeat and it wins, then go for the 2nd win, and that it loses, go for the 3rd to make up for the loss and gain still +1

If after the first line of 3, bet for a repeat and it loses bet the next 2 regardless hoping for a 2 or 1 hit.

All that may be a daft way to do it,all my thinking behind it was taking advantage of the lines with 2 hits,but when it comes to working this side of it out I get a little confussed,hopefully some smart arse can work out how it's best, but those types of people would dismiss it because it's a system and state why/how it wont work....... :lazy:


anyway, here is how it works using that way:

LLH
HLH   LWW +2
LHH   LLW +1
HHH  LWW +2  
HHH  WW- +4
LLH   LLW +3
LHH   LWL +4
LLH   LWL +5
LHH   LWL +6
LHL   WW- +8
LHH   WW +10
HHH   LWW +12
HHL   WW- +14
HLL    WLW +15
HH0   WLL +14
LHH   LW- +14
LLH   WLW +15
LHH   WLW +16
LHL   WW- +18
LHL   WW- +20
LLH  WLL +19
HLL    LWL +18
LLL   LWW +19
LLH   WW- +21
LL0  WW- +23
LHL   WL- +23
HHH  LWL +22
HLL   WLL +21
LLH   LWL +20
HHH  LLW +19
HLH   WLW +20
LLH   LWW +21
HLL    LWL +20
HHL   WLW +21
LHH   LWL +20
LLH   WLW +21
HHH   LLW +20
HLL   WLL +19
LHH   LLL +16
LHH   WW- +18
LLH   WLW +19
LHL   WLL +18
LHL   WW- +20


The 3 step marty came out like this:

LLH  
HLH  +1
LHH   +2
HHH   +3
HHH   +4
LLH    +5
LHH   +6
LLH   +7
LHH  +8
LHL   +9
LHH  +10
HHH  +11
HHL  +12
HLL   +13
HH0   +14
LHH   +15
LLH   +16
LHH  +17  
LHL  +18
LHL   +19
LLH   +20
HLL   +21
LLL   +22
LLH   +23
LL0   +24
LHL   +25
HHH  +26
HLL   +27
LLH   +28
HHH  +29
HLH   +30
LLH   +31
HLL   +32
HHL   +33
LHH   +34
LLH   +35
HHH  +36
HLL   +37
LHH - +30  
LHH   +31
LLH   +32
LHL   +33
LHL   +34

better for these numbers,see how it goes with more tests......


LD

libertydog

Here is a short one just to show how the marty can go very wrong:

H-L/Line Count/ safe bet/ Marty


HHL
HLL 2 +1  +1
HLL 3 +3  +2
HLL 3 +5  +3
HLH 2 +7  +4
HHH 2 +8  +5
LLH 1 +7  +6
LLH 3 +9  +7
HLL 1 +8  +8
LLL 2 +9  +9
LLH 2 +11 +10
HHL 0 +8  +3
HHH 2 +10 +4
LLL 0 +7  -3
HHH 0 +4  -10
HLH 2 +5  -9
HLL 2 +7  -8
LLH 1 +6  -7
HHL 0 +3  -14
HHL 3 +5  -13
HLH 1 +4  -12
HHL 1 +3  -11
LHH 1 +2  -10

LD

Kingspin

From some tests i have done i would honestly say this is a system personally i would not play , what i found is that flat betting is no good because we can't recover quickly , on a real wheel it would be incredibly hard to recover WITH MASSIVE amounts of time needed playing trying to recover. .Progression would see big losses for sure.
i think it is not a playable system on EC.

I can see you are basing the system a bit like on the DS method , but it just don't seem to work well here on EC.

medo

But then again you can do this;

H H L
L H H      -1...NEXT CYCLE RISE TO 2  un.
H L L      -6...NEXT CYCLE RISE TO 5  un.....- 7
H L L     +15..REDUCE 3 un.                        +8

In other words on each cycle you can win or lose either 1 or 3
therefore it is your quide.

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The principal of 1/3 using EC is ok - but i feel the topic is a littel out of perspective.
Why not start to learn from the classical and then move forward and try to improve.

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This is a littel better then the option above.

Rule 1.
If you win your first bet on the even position H/L then your minium is around 10 Euro and are now +1 or +10 Euro.
Then you lower your bet and ride as long as you can with out losing and place three chips on lines 123 or 456 depending on witch one wone and witch one you will ride - as the minimum is 2 Euro for each line you will place at most 6 Euro and will keep +4 Euro witch you can not lose.

Rule 2.
If not a direct win you play 1112 as your progression - if a total lose of 4 placed bets you only increase the bet size using fibo if you are minus - if you are plus you just continue with the line I mention 1112.

Rule 3.
Your first bet is that the previos pattern out of three will repeat and if the first outcome does not repeat to indicate that all three outcomes will be the same you stop.
Now you have two different patterns and wait until you can place a bet that one of the two previos patterns will repeat.
If not then you place two bets that last pattern would not create a complete cycel out of does four formation that exist.

xox
xxx
oxx
xxo

Note.
One tendency ride repeats and one tendency capture one - playing that you wont get a complete cycel of the four formations.

2   1   1
2   1   1 W +1
1   2   2 W +0,5
2   2   1 L -0.5

1   2   2
2   2   1 L -1
2   2   1 W +0

1   2   1
2   1   1 W +1
1   1   2 L -0,5

1   1   1
2   2   1 W +1
2   2   2 W +0,5
2   1   2 L -0,5

2   2   2
1   1   2 W +1
1   1   1 W +0,5
1   1   2 W +0,5
1   1   2 W +0,5
2   2   1 W +0,5
1   1   2 W +0,5
1   1   2 W +0,5
1   2   1 L -0,5

1   1   1
1   2   1 L -1
1   1   1 W +0

1   2   2
1   2   1 W +1
2   1   1 W +0,5
1   2   2 W +0,5
1   2   2 W +0,5
1   1   1 L -0,5

1   2   1
2   2   1 L -1
1   2   2 L -2
1   1   2 LW -3 -1

1   2   1
1   1   1 L -1
1   2   1 W +0

2   1   2
2   1   2 W +1
2   2   2 L -0,5

2   1   1
1   1   2 L 1 -1
1   1   2 W 1 +0

1   2   1
1   2   1 W +1
2   1   1 W +0,5
1   2   2 W +0,5
1   1   2 L -0,5

2   2   1
2   1   1 L  -1
1   2   2 W  +0

1   2   1
2   1   1 W  +1
1   2   2 W  +0,5
1   2   2 W +0,5
1   1   2 L -0,5

2   1   1
1   1   1 L -1
1   2   2 W +0

2   2   1
1   2   1 L -1
2   1   2 W +0

1   2   1
2   1   2 W +1
2   2   1 L -0,5

1   2   2
2   1   2 W +1
2   1   2 W +0,5
2   1   1 W +0,5
2   1   1 W +0,5
1   1   2 L -0,5

2   2   1
2   2   1 W +1
2   1   1 L -0,5

2   2   1
1   1   2 W +1
1   2   2 L -0,5

1   1   2
1   2   2 L -1
1   2   2 W +0

2   2   2
2   2   1 W +1
2   2   1 W +0,5
1   2   1 L -0,5

2   2   1
2   2   2 W +1
2   1   1 L -0,5

1   2   2
1   2   2 W +1
1   2   1 W +0,5
2   2   2 L -0,5

2   1   1
1   1   1 L -1
1   2   2 W +0

2   2   1
2   2   2 W +1
1   1   1 W +0,5
2   2   2 W +0,5

PS i just want to mention that i dont play roulette systems and only fool around with even money position.

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Here is one other random row with four loses.

1   2   2
1   2   1 W
1   1   1 L

2   2   2
1   1   1 W
1   1   2 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   2 L

1   1   1
2   2   2 W
2   1   2 L

1   1   2
1   1   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   1 L

2   1   2
2   2   1 L
1   2   2 L
2   1   1 W

1   2   1
1   1   1 L
2   1   2 W

2   1   1
2   2   2 L
2   2   1 L
1   2   1 LL

1   1   2
1   2   2 L
1   2   2 W

2   1   2
2   2   1 L
1   2   1 W

2   2   2
2   1   1 L
2   1   2 L
1   2   1 W

2   2   2
2   1   1 L
1   2   2 W

2   2   1
2   2   1 W
2   1   2 L

2   1   1
1   2   1 W
2   1   2 W
1   1   2 L

1   1   1
1   2   2 L
1   1   2 L
2   2   1 W

2   1   1
1   1   1 L
1   2   2 W

1   2   1
2   1   2 W
1   2   2 W
1   1   1 L

1   2   1
2   1   2 W
2   2   2 L

2   2   1
2   1   1 L
1   2   2 W

2   1   2
2   1   2 W
1   2   1 W
1   2   1 W
2   1   2 W
1   2   2 W
1   1   2 L

2   2   2
1   2   2 L
2   1   2 L
1   2   1 W

1   2   1
1   1   2 L
2   1   2 W

1   1   2
2   2   1 W
2   2   1 W
1   1   2 W
2   2   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   2 L

2   1   2
2   1   1 W
1   2   2 W
2   2   1 L

1   2   2
2   2   1 L
2   2   1 W

2   1   2
2   2   1 L
2   1   2 W

2   2   1
1   2   2 L
2   2   2 L
1   1   1 W

2   2   1
2   2   2 W

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Additional option.

Some one can reduce the loss strings toward three loses and skip the last attempt to capture the imbalance.

2   1   1
1   1   1 L
2   2   1 L
1   1   2 W

2   1   1
2   1   1 W
2   1   1 W
2   1   1 W
2   1   2 W
1   1   1 L

1   2   1
2   1   2 W
2   2   2 L

2   1   2
2   1   2 W
2   1   2 W
2   1   2 W
1   1   2 L

2   2   2
1   2   1 L
2   2   2 W

2   2   1
1   1   2 W
2   2   2 W
2   2   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   1 L

1   1   1
1   2   2 L
2   1   2 L
2   1   1 W

1   1   1
2   2   2 W
1   2   2 L

1   1   1
2   1   1 L
2   1   1 W

2   1   2
1   1   2 L
1   1   2 W

1   2   2
2   2   2 L
1   1   2 L
1   1   2 W

2   2   2
2   2   2 W
2   2   1 W
2   2   2 W
1   2   2 L

1   2   1
1   2   1 W
2   1   1 W
2   2   1 L

1   1   2
2   1   1 L
2   2   1 W

2   1   2
2   2   2 L
1   1   2 L
2   1   1 L

1   1   2
2   2   2 W
2   1   1 L

2   2   2
2   2   2 W
2   2   1 W
1   2   1 L

1   1   2
2   2   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   1 L

2   2   1
2   2   1 W
2   1   2 L

2   1   1
1   1   1 L
1   1   2 L
2   2   1 W

2   2   1
2   1   2 L
1   2   2 L
1   2   2 W

1   1   2
1   1   1 W
1   2   1 L

2   2   2
2   1   2 L
2   1   2 W

1   1   2
1   1   1 W
1   1   2 W
1   1   1 W
2   1   2 L

2   1   2
1   2   2 W
2   1   1 W
1   2   1 W
2   2   1 L

1   2   1
1   2   2 W

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