Question for the AP crew

Twocando · July 29, 2011, 02:54:26 AM

Mr J (Ken)

My answer is YES, I beat the roulette game with AP.

Now you are talking about bias. But you don't know anything about bias or how to look for bias.
You don't even play this kind of bets. Your bets are on luck and hope for even distribution. This with a
progression.

No bankroll can give you wisdom.

What do you know about bias, make a list of how to spot bias. The kind of bias and the reason for this.

Let me give you a tip. Bias can be in the wheel and in the hand of the dealer. Yep the dealer spinning
a sequence of numbers.

If you can't understand AP, play 10 of you numbers for 4 spins. If you win keep on playing them. If you
lose. DON"T play them for 4 spins. May luck be with you.

Cheers

Mr J · July 29, 2011, 01:48:32 PM

"My answer is YES, I beat the roulette game with AP" >>> Well, you did answer. Its RARE these days for answers on message boards. It does not mean I believe you BUT you did answer.

"But you don't know anything about bias or how to look for bias" >>> I guess I have to tell you the SAME thing I told Kelly/Snowman. I am NOT looking to learn this nonsense so I dont know why you refer to me as not knowing MORE about it? It makes no sense. You can only fool people for so long before they start to figure out the BS behind the explanations of bias (cough).

"Your bets are on luck and hope for even distribution. This with a
progression" >>> Nope, not ALL bets rely on the 'luck' factor. Say it again 500 times and I'll come back at ya 500 times. I have also stated that I play much less in terms of progressions these days. Say it again 500 times and I'll come back at ya 500 times.

Thats the thing I love about the bias crew (cough). Assuming you are correct, the casino is simply going to ALLOW you to carry on with no corrections.? What a LOAD of BS folks.

Ken

Kelly · July 29, 2011, 02:08:21 PM

Ken you can`t have it both ways. If you ask people about AP and biased wheels, you should expect an answer in that category. Stop asking questions about it, and you will have a much more relaxed life.

Oh I forgot

Ken foaming from the mouth:

(COUGH COUGH)

AS IF I CARE ABOUT BIASED WHEELS....HRMPF

KEN

Mr J · July 29, 2011, 07:42:07 PM

You look a little bit mad Kelly/Snowman. You never answered my FIRST question.

With your AP skills (cough), do you feel you have 'beat' roulette?

Ken

Mr J · July 29, 2011, 09:22:01 PM

Quote from: Kelly on July 29, 2011, 12:18:05 AM
My god you are sensitive. Replace the "you"s with "I"s. The answer is pretty obvious, if you insist on being an advantage player but refuse to search in more than 1 - 2 local casinos that might not have playable wheels, you are in for a serious chunk of stamp collecting or get good at plays where you can beat other players like Poker.

Thank you for the reponse, much appreciated. So in conclusion, if a person can NOT travel (for whatever reason) and there are NO bias wheels in their ONE casino.......they are out of luck. Thank you for your time.

Ken

Kelly · July 30, 2011, 01:46:42 AM

Only someone with a million dollar system to sell, would have "beat roulette". But I do once in a while find A WHEEL I can beat.

PS: Why do you keep calling me Kelly/snowman ? You think hes my evil brother ?

System · July 30, 2011, 09:02:36 AM

Ken,

What i do not get is why you ask all these questions and expect answers if you are not interested in how it all works. Sounds to me like in your case the elevator does not quite reach the top storey.The tv is on but there is no sound. The ligts are on but nobody home. 10c short of a Dollar.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 10:59:30 AM

Quote from: Kelly on July 30, 2011, 01:46:42 AM
Only someone with a million dollar system to sell, would have "beat roulette". But I do once in a while find A WHEEL I can beat.

PS: Why do you keep calling me Kelly/snowman ? You think hes my evil brother ?

So from YOU, I'll take that as a NO. Funny thing is, we (other method guys) have something in common !!! I also have not 'beat' roulette but I have great days with this game as well. Hmmmm

Twocando says that he has 'beat' roulette with AP (cough) so I assume he has a million dollar method.

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 11:06:34 AM

Quote from: System on July 30, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
Ken, What I do not get is why you ask all these questions and expect answers if you are not interested in how it all works. Sounds to me like in your case the elevator does not quite reach the top storey.The tv is on but there is no sound. The ligts are on but nobody home. 10c short of a Dollar.

Let me see if I got this. I CAN'T ask questions regarding AP (cough) and at the same time, have no interest in it? Why?

.........and lets be consistent. How many questions from the AP (cough) crew, asking method players all kinds of BS. That seems to be ok. Same rule for everyone please.

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 11:20:19 AM

Quote from: Mr J on July 30, 2011, 11:06:34 AM
Let me see if I got this. I CAN'T ask questions regarding AP (cough) and at the same time, have no interest in it? Why?

.........and lets be consistent. How many questions from the AP (cough) crew, asking method players all kinds of BS. That seems to be ok. Same rule for everyone please.

Ken

That made no sense at all. Why would you ask questions in something you have no interest in? As far as I can see, AP guys are just pointing out the facts of the game. Facts that are genuinely facts, not pie in the sky antics. Why have you not answered the question I asked you?

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 11:49:05 AM

So I was wrong about the question? Which question was it? Those are not facts regarding AP, those are delusions you have.

If you think AP (cough) are facts, you are deeper in mud than I originally thought. Better you than me.

I asked you.....to be consistent, would that not mean AP (cough) guys should not ask method guys questions? Let me guess, its a one way street?

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: Mr J on July 30, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
So I was wrong about the question? Which question was it? Those are not facts regarding AP, those are delusions you have. If you think AP (cough) are facts, you are deeper in mud than I originally thought. Better you than me.

I asked you.....to be consistent, would that not mean AP (cough) guys should not ask method guys questions? Let me guess, its a one way street?

Ken

It is not a one way street. The point brought up by the likes of Kelly and co are very much legitimate whether you like it or not. Kelly must be one of the most patient people on mother Earth because he really does go out of his way to answer you decently and with underserved respect.

What I don't get is that you admit to know nothing about AP yet you are sledging it. Shouldn't one be an expert on a subject before sledging it. With Systems it is different. We know why it cannot win in the longrun. It is pretty much the same as a slot machine. The house has the edge. I really don't know how to make you see that. I guess it is not possible to make a hole digger a rocket scientist.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:04:45 PM

Quote from: System on July 30, 2011, 12:01:24 PM
It is not a one way street. The point brought up by the likes of Kelly and co are very much legitimate whether you like it or not. Kelly must be one of the most patient people on mother Earth because he really does go out of his way to answer you decently and with underserved respect.

What I don't get is that you admit to know nothing about AP yet you are sledging it. Shouldn't one be an expert on a subject before sledging it. With Systems it is different. We know why it cannot win in the longrun. It is pretty much the same as a slot machine. The house has the edge. I really don't know how to make you see that. I guess it is not possible to make a hole digger a rocket scientist.

Where did I say I know NOTHING about AP(cough)? Please quote correctly. "With Systems it is different. We know why it cannot win in the longrun" >>> Thank you for your opinion, much appreciated AND what is the 'long run'? (here we go again) What is your style of roulette play?

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:07:50 PM

"It is not a one way street" >>> Ummm, well yeah, it sure is. The AP (cough) crew think its okay to question/slam method threads/posts BUT if the opposite happens, its uncalled for. You see, thats called being inconsistent.

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 12:14:19 PM

Ok let's answer your question first although you do not like to answer what is asked of you. I play a kind of dealer signature combined with Kimo Li's quads and matrix. I would love to know more about AP because it not only makes sense what is being said but clearly it is not playing blind. Now I answered your question, please have the decentcy to answer mine.

Regarding whether you know AP. Prove it. Tell us in your next post all you know about AP. I guess you will not. Actually I will bet you do not simply because really we all know you know nothing. You are the original donkey refusing to see reason. If you did understand AP you would know why you cannot win with systems so that is pretty self explanitary. Don't be the idiot you are coming over to be. Accept all views. Learn all ways. Then decide for yourself looking at the facts. I just do not see the reason for arguing about this. Stop playing "my father is stronger than your father" Grow up and that way you will see all views and be a better player for it. Well that or you are only on forums to be in the spotlight and argue.

System · July 30, 2011, 12:14:19 PM

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