You'll Think I'm Nuts

[schoenpoetser]

Lee you make a basic failure. You Dena the maths. Every system follows the law of the big numbers .The roulette has an Expected Value.For this reason the results of long run test are predictable. The EV of the France roulette is lying between 1,35 and 2,7.

Only a strategy can beat the roulette. A strategy consist in small special samples.
All these small samples together is not a random row.This is why a strategy can beat the roulette.A positive result depends also on the experience of the player.

The knowledge of the features of random sequences can help you to develop a profitable strategy.

[leroy]

Wikm, I would always follow the winner, betting for a repeat.
If my large bet was on 2nd doz and 2nd col and 14 hit I reset, which would be
1 unit on 1st/3rd doz
3 units on 2nd doz
1 unit on 1st and 3rd col
3 units on 2nd col

Any hit on a doz OR col with the large bet is a profit. Hit BOTH for bigger return.

I think I understand you schoenpoetser. "A strategy consists of small special samples"
The more I play the more I see outcomes like the waves on a beach, ebb and flow,
sometimes the surf comes in a little more, sometimes not so much, sometimes it brings
a piece of wood, sometimes a shell, sometimes debris.

A method must NOT attempt to force a win through a large progression.

The last few days I've been viewing outcomes as waves on a beach.
I WAIT. RRR I bet B. OOO I bet E. LLL I bet H. I wait for 3 E/C's in a row and
bet the opposite. Double on a loss, reset.  On a win I bet half the profit from the
win on a repeat, then wait for a new trigger.

Thank you.

[leroy]

I'd like to add something...

With a single zero wheel, the odds are 19 to 18 against red coming up
(as well as black, odd, or even). That gives one a 48.6% shot at hitting
any of them; not far from 50-50. But as you press on, the house edge
begins to grind away at you. After just 15 wagers, your mathematical
chance to have won more bets than you lose would be down to 45%.
And after 100 bets, the probability of being ahead drops off to 35%.
If you keep at it, you'll eventually have virtually no chance at all of being ahead.

You have to set a specific stop loss to protect yourself on the days you
are unlucky. Likewise you also have to set a stop when your bets are hitting
because the longer you play (more wagers) the lower your win percentage gets.

I started a thread that takes advantage of this mathematical negative by
increasing 1 Unit on a loss and decreasing 1 Unit on a win. If you win 5 out of 10
you still profit 5 Units.

Something to explore further...

Lee

[wikm]

Hi.
Leroy Please explain exact betting on example of 8 spins.

[leroy]

I wouldn't put my hard-earned cash on this bet but I would use
half my profits for the week.

Example 1 - A Loss

Number out is 4 (1st Doz/1st Col)

Bet 3 units on 1st Doz/1st Col
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Dozs
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Cols

So, all Dozs and Cols have a bet for a total of 10 units (3,3,1,1,1,1)

The bet is on a repeat.

If the next outcome is 24 (loss) I move all bets on the Dozs to the 2nd Doz
and all bets on the Cols to the 3rd Col and place 1 unit on the unhit Doz's/Col's

Bet 5 units on 2nd Doz
Bet 5 units on 3rd Col
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Dozs
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Cols

So, all Dozs and Cols have a bet for a total of 14 units (5,5,1,1,1,1)

Again, I'm betting on a repeat on 24.

If the next outcome is 20 (win on Doz/loss on Col) I only move the Col bet
or reset if bankroll is at a new high.

Bet 5 units on 2nd Doz
Bet 7 units on 2nd Col
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Dozs
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Cols

So, all Dozs and Cols have a bet for a total of 16 units (5,7,1,1,1,1)

If you test this you will find as long as a Doz OR Col with the high bet
hits you profit but you may not reach a new high after several progressions.
When both Doz and Col with high bet hits you profit big. But if you don't get
a repeat you will bust your bankroll. When you get to a new bankroll high reset.

I've never gone to an 8 spin loss on both Doz's or Col's. I usually hit after 5 losses
in a row, if not the progression after 5 is more than I'm willing to risk.

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Example 2 - A Win

Number out is 4 (1st Doz/1st Col)

Bet 3 units on 1st Doz/1st Col
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Dozs
Bet 1 each on remaining 2 Cols

So, all Dozs and Cols have a bet for a total of 10 units (3,3,1,1,1,1)

The bet is on a repeat.

If 7 drops you profit 8 units.

If you get a hit on a Doz OR Col with the high bet you profit 2 units.
So just continue with the 3,3,1,1,1,1 bet with the high bet on the
Doc and Col that drops.

I can't see how I can explain it any easier.

Good Luck!

[ReDsQuaD]

I don't understand why people cant and won't understand that you cannot beat this game betting on outsidebets.

[Nathan Detroit]

ReDs ....

I am in total agreement with your statement.  

Outside bets  are like " waterboarding"  a  bankroll.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[ReDsQuaD]

Nice example

[xman1970]

I don't understand why people cant and won't understand that you cannot beat this game betting on outsidebets.

Can I ask how you know this for sure ?

[ReDsQuaD]

Can I ask how you know this for sure ?

Becuase its fact. Once you learn this, you can progress.

Then its a case of how far you can progess.

[xman1970]

Becuase its fact. Once you learn this, you can progress.

Then its a case of how far you can progess.

Yikes !!! You n me live in 2 different worlds.....

Yours appears to be black n white while mine is a million shades of grey......

IF it is a fact then, why do you think that the guy who has helped you win (Mr.Stevie H) offers an 100k challenge over 1million spins on RNG for a winning system ?

Why is his mind open to the possibility ? After all HE has progressed ?

[ReDsQuaD]

Yikes !!! You n me live in 2 different worlds.....

Yours appears to be black n white while mine is a million shades of grey......

IF it is a fact then, why do you think that the guy who has helped you win (Mr.Stevie H) offers an 100k challenge over 1million spins on RNG for a winning system ?

Why is his mind open to the possibility ? After all HE has progressed ?

Yes I agree. We do live in different worlds.

But I can answer that question. Its quite simple, the challenge is for RNG - Which is mostly likely never going to be beaten.

If you had done research, you would realize that beating roulette is all about physics.

This is why there is no 100 k challenge for real wheels. (Kinda obvious)

[xman1970]

Yes I agree. We do live in different worlds.

Yep of that there is no doubt

But I can answer that question. Its quite simple, the challenge is for RNG. Which is mostly likely never going to be beaten.

So why is Steve doing it then ? As in why do you think Steve is doing it ?

If you had done research, you would realize that beating roulette is all about physics.

I'm sure you can using your mobile/cell phone it just doesn't appeal to me. My blood pressure is high enough without the fear of getting caught out!!!

This is why there is no 100 k challenge for real wheels. (Kinda obvious)

Because people with your kinda mobile/cell phone CAN win that challenge, yes i get that.....

If you could try n answer my last question from my last post that would be appreciated.....

Why is his mind open to the possibility ? After all HE has progressed ?

[ReDsQuaD]

Sorry but i don't understand what you mean.

He's mind open to the possibility of what?

[xman1970]

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

He's mind open to the possibility of what?

That roulette can be beaten via something OTHER than the "physics" of the game......

[xman1970]

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