Threaten to go to the press?

[Mr J]

I've wondered about this for a long time. I do NOT want this to be an arguement between AP and method players, I could careless about that aspect. Lets say you are doing well for months at your local casino(s) regardless of the game etc.

You are brought aside and threatened to be BANNED from the casino. I know they can ban you for 'whatever' reason they choose, thats fine. What about threatening BACK and saying you'll go to the press and tell them your sour story about how certain non-cheating customers are not welcomed.

I would think a LOUSEY story on the local news or the newspaper would really get the casino to think twice about the ban? Not saying I'm right, its only my opinion.

Ken

[Steve]

Casinos probably wouldnt think of the lost business, and in all likelihood they probably wouldnt lose much business, if any. Online casinos are quite different though, where a bad reputation can affect a lot of decisions and long term revenue.

[iggiv]

will they threaten u? i've heard stories they just bluntly ban u and that's it. i am not sure how much u win but as soon they see u as pro AP they may ban u right away as much as i understand. is it right?

[Mr J]

"see u as pro AP" >>> or a method player? I repeat, I dont want to make this into an AP/methods debate.

Ken

[Steve]

Banning almost never happens. What they do is try to figure out what you are doing, and what they need to do to make you either lose or leave. This is the case with any method, any game.

Different staff will tell you different things though. Like some computers players (stupidly) asked casino staff what they thought about it all. Some dont believe it. Some say they will ban people they find. And some said they know about it, but its so rare that its not a big problem. I'm NOT going on about AP. I'm just highlighting this because 'cheating devices' are the extreme case where you'd normally expect to be banned/charged or whatever.

But if you are winning by whatever other means, system play or whatever, and they cant figure it out and changes they made were not effective, only then would most casinos think about banning. But again every casino is different.

[iggiv]

Steve, how much and frequently u should win to get attention? let's say u play once a 2 months and win roughly 1000 each. will they pay attention? what do u think is an optimal and safe "frequency" and amount of winning to be OK and not to draw heat and attention to yourself. what if u win big and lose small frequently as well?

thanx

[cheese]

Typically a casino will back you off a game, or restrict your play,
before they ban you. If you're winning too much at roulette,
for instance, they would limit your bets to the minimum amount.
Even if you do win, it won't be enough for them to care about.

[Steve]

Iggiv, I'm asked that all the time but rhe answer varies. At some casinos, $1000 and above requires ID before payment. At other casinos, $10,000 or above. Getting around cashing-in requirements for ID is easy enough though.

Dont use coloured chips, and you can afford to take more. Some casinos track larger transactions at the table.

Most successful players wont ever take something like $30k in one hit. But there have been instances of it, where the player makes comparatively large bets - like $1000 per spin. In such a case, one or two wins can easily be put down to luck in the casinos eyes, so that wont raise suspicion, provided you move to different casinos. It will still raise an eyebrow though and if the staff take your image and put you on file, it will be shared with other casinos... just in case. Then if you repeat a big win in another casino, that casino's staff may decide to check your face and/or name. then if they find a match, they may see what you won in some other casino, and notes about you. From then, they will likely watch you closely. In any company though, some people do and some dont do their job properly. The only people that know what is being tracked are the casino staff, but you can prevent detection by knowing what they do to find repeat winners.

Most players get results like: +$200, -$50, +$800,+$165,+$120,+$1900,+$45,+$650 etc and they only begin betting properly when they are sure of accuracy, then they leave after a short time. The correct way to do it is have one person to the calibrating (ie with a computer or whatever), and another the betting later. That way one unlucky loser keeps losing, and some lucky guy places a few lucky bets then leaves, perhaps to blackjack for a while to demonstrate he isnt exclusively roulette. That's another story - there is a lot to avoiding detection and its best not openly discuss it.

[bombus]

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[Mr J]

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[iggiv]

they can use face recognition system, mustache won't help u

[pins]

if you are playing roulette. it should not make any difference to the casino who wins.theres a winner every spin. if the taBLE IS BEEN PLAYED THE CASINO WINS EVERY SPIN.

[xman1970]

As they can ban you for ANY reason Ken, I would think your going to the press is ONLY going to pi$$ off ANY other casino you maybe looking to play at.......

After all, who wants a "troublemaker" right ?

[Steve]

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[iggiv]

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[iggiv]

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