Just rambling; seeing what it looks like on paper; seeking comments; ect.

[TwoCatSam]

American Wheel (European is just better.)

20 chances to win 2 units.  20/38=52.63%
10 chances to lose 1 unit.  10/38=26.32%
4 chances to lose 4 units.   4/38=10.53%
4 chances to lose 7 units.   4/38=10.53%

Total percentages=100.01  Close enough.

Suppose we spun the wheel at TwoCat Casino 100,000 times.  What are our outcomes?

For 20 chances we have 100,000 X 52.63% or 52,630 incidents each profiting us 2 units for a win of 105,260 units.
For 10 chances we have 100,000 X 26.32% or 26,320 incidents each costing us 1 unit for a loss of 26,320 units.
For 4 chances we have 100,000 X 10.53% or 10,530 incidents each costing us 4 units for a loss of 42,120 units.

Suppose we could just forget about that last four that cost us 7 units?  Well, we can't, but suppose we could.  Our profit on our 100,000 spins would be 36,820 units.

In the real world, those 4 spins cost us 73,710 units for loss of 36,890 units.

Does anyone see a mistake in my math?  If so, please point it out before I go further.

I have been working on an idea I got--from all places--in a Bible study group.  I would like a few folks to work on this with me.  I'm not selling anything and will give away the idea even if it works.  If it doesn't, we can all have some fun trying.

For anyone willing to help, you must--just for this system only--shelve the idea what anything the wheel has done in the past will have an influence of what the wheel does in the future.  Also you must give up on the idea that anything is due.  Just for this system only.

I will not argue with anyone; I'll just ignore your post no matter how loud you scream.

TwoCat

[sniper]

Hello TwoCat,

I am keen to give a crack at this idea of yours. Please do let me know how to go about it.

Regards

[superman]

Go for it Sam, I guess a no zero wheel would be better still?

I have done extensive tracking recently, ignoring past a future, as you say, working on the presumption that all events must happen sooner or later, wouldlike to see what you have come up with in bible study lol

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

Thanks for your kind replies.

Superman..."all events must happen sooner or later".

This is true.  If they all happened "sooner", we'd all be rich.  Sometimes they happen later and we hit the wall.  That is why, for this idea alone, we must forget the past as soon as the ball lands.

In the next couple of days I will work out more of my idea mathematically and post it. 

Sam

By the way, a no-zero wheel would cut the 7 unit loss down to two incidents rather than four, so you are right.  But I live 30 minutes from an RNG wheel with 0 00, so I have to work with that.  Nothing would change for 0 or no 0 wheels.

[TwoCatSam]

First, I corrected my math errors in my first post.

Now, suspend your disbelief.  That is to say, Superman can really fly!  Just work with me.............


Imagine this:  6-5-4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6   only going to infinity and beyond in each direction.   ( "To infinity and beyond!"    )

Suppose you started on 0 and for each loss you took the appropriate number of steps to the left and for each win you took the appropriate number of steps  to the right.  Suppose--he can fly!--the wheel did exactly what it was supposed to do for our 100,000 spins and suppose we plugged those four pesky numbers that caused us grief.  Imagine...........

In 100,000 spins we would step to the left 68,449 and to the right 105,260.  With our bastardized wheel, we would move far to our right, 36,820 steps to be exact as my poor math skills say.

I must go and practice my guitar as my callouses are softening. 

TCS

[TwoCatSam]

What I am going to attempt is to reduce volatility.  If every third, fourth or even fifth spin of the wheel was always black, we'd all be rich.  Volatility says this simply will never happen with any regularity.

Low volatility:  Betting 35 numbers.  Virtually no volatility and very tiny reward for the risk involved.

High volatility:  Betting one number. 

What I will try to do is average volatility over a series of bets instead of trying to recover the loss in one or two spins.  If that worked, we could use the Fibonacci and make money.

Comments?

TCS

[Far-Q]

Hello TwoCatSam,
Im very interested to help out if I can.

[mcmonaco]

All ears and eager to learn how to make money...go Sam go

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

Spent a lot of time today playing at Oddsmaker's American wheel--play money.

So far--very good result.  However, the months I spent with SuperRoulette taught me that 5,000 spins is nothing.  Like a teardrop in the ocean.  So I'll not make any grandiose claims.

This system--yes, it's a system--will be broken down into games.  Just because you finish a game does not mean you won it.  Think football.

Secondly, the goal of each game is to win one unit.  If your last bet would cause you to win two, you must reduce it accordingly.

This will be a super-slow grind if it pans out during further testing.  But here is the good thing:  You can suspend play at any time--during a game or after a game is finished.  Makes no difference.  Get up and hit the can!  When the wife catches you playing, just hide your notes, switch off the casino and tell her you were looking for a good chick-flick!   

So wish me luck and I'll be back.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Dublinbet live.........

Anyone notice they got a new wheel and carpet at table one, low minimum?  Pretty blue!

Anyway, I played about 20 games in an hour and went up 300#.  My worst game took me down several hundred dollars and the largest bet was 385, but it won easily.

I lost one game when one of the "Four Horsemen" hit.  I finished the game, but was down 20#.

One thing puzzles me:  Why do you fellas who are not in the USA worry about where to play and who pays when you could be on Dublin?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Needs more work!

No snickering!!   

[TwoCatSam]

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