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Cut point methodology.

Started by lucky_strike, November 13, 2007, 01:12:01 PM

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lucky_strike

Cut point methodology.

Balance and imbalance - Even chances.

Would you chase for an event or would you let the event come to you?

Would you force the wheel play your game or would you let game play it self for correction?

Would you re-invent the wheel?

Be prepared for a different methodology based upon math, probability and statistics.

Claim that is based upon fallacy, ridiculous!

The law for correction for underrepresented figures and events is true, if the value for the imbalance rise above an statistical ecart of 2,5.

Almost infallible.

Observation and masse égale - takes time - but the reward is incredible.

How to find an imbalance, witch figures and events to calculate, the possibilities is many to get qualified signals:

1:1 Singels contra nothingness
1:2 Singels contra series
1:3 Singels contra series of singels
1:4 Series contra singels
1:5 Series contra higher series

How to calculate and get the value for imbalance, qualified signals.

The Statistical Ecart.

Here below we have 14 series and 2 singels.

Now the first thing is to get the difference between this events, the absolute ecart:

14 - 2 = 12

Now we whant to get the statistical ecart so we add

14 + 2 = 16

Now we take the sqr of 16 = 4

And finally we divide the absolute ecart whit the sqr

12 sqr 4 = 3,00

The Statistical Ecart 3,00

There is one rule:

The imbalance, the qualified signal, has to hit 2,5 or above within 20 to 50 outcomes, not above, because it effects the strength behind the imbalance.

Here is the singels underrepresented so lets take a look at the correction after a value of 3,00


Spielbank Hamburg Tabel No 1 2003-01-02

Series contra singel - Red-Black.

Statistical Ecart 3,00


R
R
R
B
B
R
B
B
B
B
R
R
B
B
B
R
R
B
B
R
R
B
B
R
B
B
R
R
R
R
B
B
R
R
B
B..3,00
R..R
B..B +
R..R +
R.....-
R
B
B.....-
R..R
B..B +
R..R +
R.....-
B..B
R..R +
R.....-
B..B
R..R +
B..B +
B -
R..R
B..B +
R..R +
B..B +
R..R +
B..B +
B.....-
R
R
B..B
R..R +
B..B +
B.....-
B

W W L
W W L
W L
W W L
W W W W W L
W W L


Here you have a chart for the statistical ecart. At the top you have the underrepresented figure, event.
At the left side do you have the overrepresented figure, event.


Now i have find out that singels contra nothingness will give you 1 to 2 qualified signals, almost Itch day and that's a lot regarding this methodology.

And its the reverse way - the opposite to series contra singels.

I will post results and statistics soon.

To be continued...

lucky_strike

My humble opinion is that there only exist 2 values.

1 contra 0

0 contra 1

And this is the values i will use to get closer to The Final Solution For The Even Chances.

Its based upon the switch rather then its going for a figure, series, after an statistical ecart of 3,00.

I will provide you with examples soon.

I have to gather some statistics first so i can clarify this, ok.

admin

QuoteThis is the values i will use to get closer to The Final Solution For The Even Chances.

Mate, I would totally LOVE to see it posted  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Just like "Marigny", people can end up reading "Lucky" for a continuation/improvement of his work.




QuoteThe law for correction for underrepresented figures and events is true.

Regarding the "1-spin-only game" gurus, I'm used to them already. In fact it is for the best they are the casinos' counseling, otherwise, roulette would then be oficially cathegorized as a beatable game outside the "Ballistics" arena (which they are paranoid of already).

Better to keep it oficially as a 1-spin-game where no patterns or statistics, ecarts, balance/imbalance is "real".

I'll take to keep on being laughed at for using the "Fallacy" or relations between spins, for being allowed to take note of that "oficially useless" information (casino allowing notepads). Won't you?  [smiley=wink.gif]




Besides, Cut point methodology is not for everyone. Too much observation required for the average gambler!! Plus cutting when you are winning, is by all means phychologically painful for regular punters.

Also, I can't imagine a gambling addict with pen and paper waiting for a qualified imbalance or proper signal to occur in order to have a betting opportunity.

For most gamblers, every single spin is a betting opportunity.




Lucky,
Kudos and let's have some more of those wonderful posts/contributions of yours.

Your friend,
Victor.

Spinman

Lucky, thanks for the interesting post.
I'm looking forward to your next one, but, in the meantime, would it be possible for you to clarify the chart that you put up, I can't seem to make head or tail of it. Perhaps an example would enlighten me


Thanks
Mike

lucky_strike

That chart shows the values you get if you calculate the strength behind the statistical ecart, a value that's defined the strength behind the imbalance, regarding series vs singels.

Tails and Heads, no.

Series contra singels is about that the series are overrepresented and the singels are underrepresented.
Within a situation of 50 outcomes. That will force the underrepresented figures, events to recoup for balance.
And the only way it will do that is to come in figures, series.
Witch we try to catch.

Now here is an example:

O
O
E
E
O
O
E
E
E
O
O
O
E
E
E
E
O
O
O
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
O
E
E
O
O
E
E
O
O
O
O
O
E
O
O
E
E...3,00
O...O
E...E serie of 2 OE
E
E
E
E
O...O
E...E
O...O serie of 3 OEO
O
E...E
O...O
E...E serie of 3 EOE
E
E
E
E
O...O
E...E
O...O
E...E
O...O
E...E
O...O serie of 7 OEOEOEO
O
O
O
E...E
O...O
E...E serie of 3 EOE
E
E
E
O
E
E
E
E
E
E
O...O
E...E
O...O
E...E
O...O serie of 5 OEOEO
O
E
E
O
E

lucky_strike

Here you can see clearly how the series is overrepresented.

Red-Black



Now this happens after a statistical ecart of 3,00

B
R..R
B..B
R..R serie of 3 RBR
R
R
B
B
R..R
B..B
R..R serie of 3 RBR
R
B..B
R..R serie of 2 BR
R
B..B
R..R
B..B serie of 3 BRB
B
R..R
B..B
R..R
B..B
R..R
B..B serie of 6 RBRBRB
B
R
R
B..B
R..R
B..B serie of 3 BRB
B
B

I will explain the indication and the march but just for fun lets say we would start after 3,00 whit a serie of 2 as an indication for correction we will get this W/L strikes.

W W L W W W

L W W W W W

This would be the result if we bet after a switch as an indication for corection:

R/B - W W L L W W L W L W W L W W W W W L L W W L

E/O - W L W W L W W L W W W W W W L W W L L W W W W L

[smiley=wink.gif]

lucky_strike

Now i want you to remember i only post what i find out to be the truth. This what i think is the common approach for the singels contra series.

First as i show you before a qualified signal for series contra singels there is this rule that the underrepresented figure of singels have to occurred as separated singels within the overrepresented series.

The same thing goes for singels contra series. Within the qualified signal their has to be no serie above 2 within the qualified signal.

When we wait for a indication of correction we have to get 2 series before we play that we will get next serie, serie number 3.

Now i will give you 1 exampels for 3,00.

This values for the imbalance are to low but its just to show you how its done...

Statistical Ecart 3,00
Even-Odd
14 singels 2 series of 2
From spin 169 to 186 Within 17

After 2 series we get this W/L strike:

W
W
W
W


lucky_strike

Here you have Series contra higher series - W W W L L W W

........ LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
........ LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
HIGH
........ LOW
........ LOW
........ LOW
........ LOW
........ LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
........ LOW
HIGH
........ LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
........ LOW
HIGH
........ LOW
HIGH
HIGH
HIGH
........ LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
......... LOW
........ LOW
HIGH
HIGH
......... LOW
......... LOW
HIGH
.......... LOW
HIGH
HIGH
......... LOW
HIGH
HIGH
......... LOW
HIGH
HIGH
......... LOW
HIGH
......... LOW
......... LOW
HIGH
HIGH
......... LOW
......... LOW..................................................................STATITICAL ECART  3,00 14 series of 2 and 2 series above
HIGH
......... LOW
HIGH
HIGH
HIGH.
HIGH...........
HIGH...........WIN
........ LOW
HIGH
HIGH
........ LOW....LOSS
........ LOW
........ LOW....WIN
........ LOW....WIN


lucky_strike

Here is one chart level betting for the correction, no progression, only masse égale. Statistical Ecart 3,00.
RNG Series contra singels:



Here is one chart level betting for the correction, no progression, only masse égale. Statistical Ecart 3,00.
RNG Series contra singels:



Here is one chart level betting for the correction, no progression, only masse égale. Statistical Ecart 3,00.
RNG Singels contra series:


lucky_strike

  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Now it all depends on how you catch the correction after a indication that is starts to recoup for balance.

Now if we just play whit 3 units and stop if we lose this 3 units and stop after we have 1 unit in profit, then the result of 96 qualified signals will give us this result.

Travemunde tabel 1 920101-930630

96 qualified signals 81 won 15 loss.

That's give us a Estat of 7.21

G = total gain in units
b = number of placed bets



I think this is how you calculate the Estat:

lose 45 units won 81 units that's 126 placed bets sqr 11,22
divide whit 81 is 7,21

Now we can use masse égale in many different ways.
Lets say that we wont more out of the correction after its indicates that its starts to recoup for balance.

We should do something like this.

Lets say that we are level betting whit 5 greens for 3 steps.
Itch time we place a bet of this 3 - 5 5 5 - we put 20 euro on zero. So if Zero hits we start over.

Now after we win once we level betting whit 2 greens - that's 4 -
level betting twice 2 2 - if we lose we have 1 unit profit - if we win we have 7 units in profit. Then we can play twice whit 1 1.
But we only safe guard whit a % on zero for the 3 first steps.

So the conclusion is you don´t profit from the first 3 steps.
The degression of 22 11 is the key to build your bankroll into profit.

Ops

Now the Estat isn't correct i was just calculated the wins and loss but the placed bets is offcourse more sense the all of the wins of 1 unit didn't came at the very first attempt, sorry for that.

The Estat is lower then 7.21

---

ITS A % GAME ITS A GAME OF DISTRIBUTION
Lucky Strike 2007

----

I am going to enjoy this, that's all that matter.

I will post sessions for itch approach and i don´t care if it takes me 1 or 5 year to do so.

I will start with series contra singels.

Rules: Bankroll 3 units. Win goal 1 unit.

The QS are only allowed to have separated singel within the series and the march starts after a indication of 2 whit a SE of 3,00 or above.

RED - BLACK  

Spielbank Hamburg

2000 01 01 Tabel 1

1 QS Serier contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 02 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel  + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 03 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 04 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 05 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 06 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singels

---

2000 01 07 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singels

---

2000 01 08 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singels

---

2000 01 09 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singels + 1 UNIT WAGERIN 1



---

2000 01 10 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 11 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 12 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 13 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 14 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 15 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 16 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 17 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 2



---

2000 01 18 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 19 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 20 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 21 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 22 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 23 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 24 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 01 25 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 26 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 27 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 28 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 29 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 30 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 01 31  

1 QS .Series contra singel

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

2000 02 01 Tabel 1

1 QS .Series contra singel

---

2000 02 02 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 03 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 04 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 05 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 06 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 07 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 08 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 09 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 10 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 11 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 12 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 13 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 14 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 15 Tabel 1

1 QS Series contra singel + 1 UNIT WAGERING 1



---

2000 02 16 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02 17 Tabel 1

0 QS Series contra singel

---

2000 02

lucky_strike


Soon i will post Cut Point Methodology part 2. Here is part 1. It isn't complete just the basics. Its a old post so i just wrote this to make it more present.

Now i have learn a lot more and will share my thoughts and the new complete approach for Cut Point Methodology.
I hope that a code will be done first because it would help me a lot to get you a visual understanding for the betting strategies and what it takes for a betting signal to get qualified.

Some of the content at the post above is not accurate regarding how you catch does events of correction after a qualified signal - i will tell more about that later...

Cheers Lucky Strike

lucky_strike

QuoteFlat bettors also like to wait for a heavy imbalance and then have a shot at the underrepresented location regaining some balance. That's also not bad as long as you don't get stubborn thinking "it has to happen", "it has to come" ( because it doesn't *have to* ).

I quote VLS

Well i just going to clarify something here regarding this quote.

Balance and Imbalance.

If you get a strong imbalance, then you don't just start to play chasing sleepers.

The Law Of Correction dictates that you only start to play after a Indication of Correction.

When it is clear that the underrepresented chance is starting to catching up.

Is a wake.

You can use a march that allow you to make 4 attempts to start riding the wave of correction.

QuoteSo if it doesnt happen then you don't play that's the beauty of it.

Quote my self.

Just to make it clear that there is a Huge Difference Between Chasing For Sleepers And Playing For Correction After An Indications Of Correction Of A Underrepresented Chance...

Here is a demonstration of the difference to start the reel play after a indication of correction.

When you know for a fact that the underrepresented Chance goes for balance.

At the first image you will see 14 series and 2 singels.

Measurements will give us a value of a Statistical Ecart of 3,00. This is the Qualified Signal, the bet selection.



This second image will illustrate how the colours start to alternate. That is the correction.

At the first image the series was overrepresented so that means that singels was underrepresented.
Now we expect the singels to recoup, catch up for balance and the only way it can do that is to  alternate.



Now i will isolate the result and show you the series of singels alternating.

R
B
R Won
.....Loss
R
B
R Won
....Loss
B
R
....Loss
B
R
B Won
.....Loss
R
B
R Won
B Won
R Won
B Won
....Loss
B
R
B Won
....Loss
R
B
R Won
B Won
R Won
B Won
R Won
B Won
....Loss


Now there is a Predefined March that will let you play after a correction has occurred and help you catch does winning strikes, more about that later...


Cheers Lucky Strike


Arteinvivo

Lucky,

Thanks for sharing.

I'd like to clarify one point with you if you don't mind. You wrote "Here is a demonstration of the difference to start the reel play after a indication of correction."

What is the length of the correction signal exactly ?

After you detect an ecart >= 3.00 , do you begin to bet after 2 singles or something like this RBR ? Or do you wait for a longer string of zig zag between both chances ?

lucky_strike


Hi Arte.

The core is to play for correction. When the tendency goes for balance.

Here is the singels overrepresented and the series are underrepresented.

This image of 15 singels whit 2 series have a statistical ecart of 3,15. There is a strong imbalance within 21 outcomes.
---

---
Now when we rich a value of 3,00 or above, we wait until we have 2 series as an indication for correction. The correction the tendency that the underrepresented figure goes for balance.
This image illustrates 2 series - 2 series in a row.
---

---
So when we have 2 series in a row then when it switch to the opposite color then we will bet it will continue to be a serie.
Then we have 3 series in a row.
---

---
Here they go:



---



---



---

Cheers Lucky Strike

lucky_strike

There is different ways to see if it holds up for Masse Égale.

One could be that you use 3 or 4 units and play flat bets for 3 or 4 attempts.

Or change the indication for correction to one serie and maybe try to win 2 in a row.
Then we hade won 9 units using 4 units whit this ex... below...


Here is TRNGs 070101 using 3 units.  

Just for illustration.

Placed 1 bet gain 1

1
1
1
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
1
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
  2
1      
  2      20 singels and 4 series statistical ecart 3,26
1
1
  2
  2
1
1      WON      +1             
1
1
1
1
  2
  2                  
1
1      
1      
  2
  2            
  2
1
  2            
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
  2
1
1
  2
1      
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
  2
1
1
  2
1      
1
1
1
1
1
1
  2
  2


Placed 3 bets gain 1

  2
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1      16 singels and 2 series - statistical ecart 3,29
  2
  2
1      
1      
1
1
1
1
1
1
  2
1      LOSS      -1            
1
  2
1            
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
  2
  2            
1    
1            WON       0      
  2
  2                         WON      +1      
1
1            
1
1
  2
  2         
1
  2         
  2


Placed 9 bets gain 1

  2
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
  2
1
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2      16 singels and 3 series - statistical ecart 2,98
1
1
  2
  2      
1
  2      LOSS      -1
1
1
  2
  2      
  2
  2
  2
  2
  2
1      
1      WON       0
  2
1      LOSS      -1
1
  2
  2      
1
1      WON       0      
  2
1
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
  2
  2
1
  2      LOSS       -1      
  2
1
1
1
  2
  2      WON       0      
1
  2      LOSS       -1
1
  2
  2
1
1
1
  2
  2      WON       0
1
1      WON      +1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2
1
1
1


Placed 1 bet gain 1

1
1
  2
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
1
  2
  2
  2
1
1
  2
1
  2
1      16 singels and 3 series - statistical ecart 2,98
  2
  2
  2
1
  2       
  2
1    
1      
1
1
  2
  2      WON      +1
1
1      
1
1
  2
  2      
1
  2
  2
  2
  2


Cheers LS


lucky_strike

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