Question

[Mr J]

Somewhere on one of the boards (I gave up looking) there is a LONG list of odds for EVERY casino game. Not just the game but of every bet for that game, the list is long. Even I posted it a couple times. I was hoping maybe somebody had it saved somewhere? Does anybody know where that list is? Its not any list from the Wizard site, its much longer than that.

Thanks!!

Ken

[MattyMattz]

Ken,

I know there was a similar list back on the old VIP/TurboGenius site, but that's long gone.  Haven't seen anything similar since.

MM

[Mr J]

I forgot about VIP, I found it >>

House Advantages for Popular Casino Games.

Roulette (double-zero) 5.3%
Craps (pass/come) 1.4%
Craps (pass/come with double odds) 0.6%
Blackjack - average player 2.0%
Blackjack - 6 decks, basic strategy* 0.5%
Blackjack - single deck, basic strategy* 0.0%
Baccarat (no tie bets) 1.2%
Caribbean Stud* 5.2%
Let It Ride* 3.5%
Three Card Poker* 3.4%
Pai Gow Poker (ante/play)* 2.5%
Slots 5% - 10%
Video Poker* 0.5% - 3%
Keno (average) 27.0%

*Optimal Strategy



House Advantages for Major Casino Wagers. Game Bet HA*

Baccarat Banker (5% commission) 1.06%
Baccarat Player 1.24%
Big Six Wheel Average 19.84%
Blackjack Card-Counting -1.00%
Blackjack Basic Strategy 0.50%
Blackjack Average player 2.00%
Blackjack Poor Player 4.00%
Caribbean Stud Ante 5.22%
Casino War Basic Bet 2.88%
Craps Any Craps 11.11%
Craps Any Seven 16.67%
Craps Big 6, Big 8 9.09%
Craps Buy (any) 4.76%
Craps C&E 11.11%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come 1.36%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come w/1X Odds 0.68%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come w/2X Odds 0.45%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come w/3X Odds 0.34%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come w/5X Odds 0.23%
Craps don't pass/Don't Come w/10X Odds 0.12%
Craps Don't Place 4 or 10 3.03%
Craps Don't Place 5 or 9 2.50%
Craps Don't Place 6 or 8 1.82%
Craps Field (2 and 12 pay double) 5.56%
Craps Field (2 or 12 pays triple) 2.78%
Craps Hard 4, Hard 10 11.11%
Craps Hard 6, Hard 8 9.09%
Craps Hop Bet - easy (14-1) 16.67%
Craps Hop Bet - easy (15-1) 11.11%
Craps Hop Bet - hard (29-1) 16.67%
Craps Hop Bet - hard (30-1) 13.89%
Craps Horn Bet (30-1 & 15-1) 12.50%
Craps Horn High - any (29-1 & 14-1) 16.67%
Craps Horn High 2, Horn High 12 (30-1 & 15-1) 12.78%
Craps Horn High 3, Horn High 11 (30-1 & 15-1) 12.22%
Craps Lay 4 or 10 2.44%
Craps Lay 5 or 9 3.23%
Craps Lay 6 or 8 4.00%
Craps Pass/Come 1.41%
Craps Pass/Come w/1X Odds 0.85%
Craps Pass/Come w/2X Odds 0.61%
Craps Pass/Come w/3X Odds 0.47%
Craps Pass/Come w/5X Odds 0.33%
Craps Pass/Come w/10X Odds 0.18%
Craps Place 4 or 10 6.67%
Craps Place 5 or 9 4.00%
Craps Place 6 or 8 1.52%
Craps Three, Eleven (14-1) 16.67%
Craps Three, Eleven (15-1) 11.11%
Craps Two, Twelve (29-1) 16.67%
Craps Two, Twelve (30-1) 13.89%
Keno Typical 27.00%
Let It Ride Base bet 3.51%
Pai Gow Poker Skilled player (non-banker) 2.54%
Pai Gow Poker Average player (non-banker) 2.84%
Red Dog Basic bet (six decks) 2.80%
Roulette Single-zero 2.70%
Roulette Double-zero (except five-number) 5.26%
Roulette Double-zero, five-number bet 7.89%
Sic Bo Big/Small 2.78%
Sic Bo One of a Kind 7.87%
Sic Bo 7, 14 9.72%
Sic Bo 8, 13 12.50%
Sic Bo 10, 11 12.50%
Sic Bo Any three of a kind 13.89%
Sic Bo 5, 16 13.89%
Sic Bo 4, 17 15.28%
Sic Bo Three of a kind 16.20%
Sic Bo Two-dice combination 16.67%
Sic Bo 6, 15 16.67%
Sic Bo Two of a kind 18.52%
Sic Bo 9, 12 18.98%
Slots Dollar Slots (good) 4.00%
Slots Quarter Slots (good) 5.00%
Slots Dollar Slots (average) 6.00%
Slots Quarter Slots (average) 8.00%
Sports Betting Bet $11 to Win $10 4.55%
Three Card Poker Pair Plus 2.32%
Three Card Poker Ante 3.37%
Video Poker Selected Machines -0.50%


*House Advantages under typical conditions, expressed "per hand" and including ties, where appropriate. Optimal strategy assumed unless otherwise noted.

[Mr J]

Ken,

I know there was a similar list back on the old VIP/TurboGenius site, but that's long gone.  Haven't seen anything similar since.

MM

Hi buddy, question for you. Years ago, were you at the old VIP? If so, it sure wasn't MattyMattz. Just wondering.

Ken

[MattyMattz]

Yep, I was there, but not in the roulette section (or very little).  Stuck to the craps table back then.  That's were I first met Talisman and a few others.

I think my nickname over there was MasterP.

I wasn't a big poster there mind you. 

[Mr J]

I'm sure Talesman would love to hear from you.

Ken

[MattyMattz]

He was on this board for a short while - not sure where he's at now-a-days.

MM

[MattyMattz]

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