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Kimo Li

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Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
I believe there is a direct correlation between poker and roulette.

In poker, you have to know all the tendencies of your opponents, which are many at any given time, especially when someone new enters the game.

In roulette, you have to know the ball movement idiosyncrasies of the croupier and the type of wheel being played, especially when the dealer changes.

Of course, like anything else, this idea can be debated.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 02:56:28 PM
Magical thinking, confirmation bias.  The change of the dealer does not change
the flow of the numbers. Randomness changes the flow. It's all proved in a
simple analyses of actual spins over time. I've done the work for myself. If you
chart the characteristics of real spins you will see that most trends continue
right through dealer changes. Empirical evidence trumps superstition and
confirmation bias.
I am sort of living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 04:33:25 PM
I am leaving the table  in  a hurry when  there is  a  shift change.Just imagine a  pint size  Asian girl    trying to  throw  the  ball stretching herself out , standing   on  one  leg  while  the   other one  is extented into the air trying to maintain her balance.

I am not  wasting my money on some  kind of a notion that " the table" will  resume its momentum with  the trend at  this  point in time.  By no means  is the wheel  a self reliant entity but  completely ineffective without  any interaction with a dealer. 

If I am doing great with a dealer and one of my favorite  dealers should change shift with him   I`ll get up just the same for obvious reasons   .

This  is  not a superstition but a practice  based upon solid experience on my part for  the past 31 years.

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B.T.W. Remember to have  always one foot pointing towards the  door !!! :ok:

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
Poker, when played from the point of view of always making the "the perfect play", can be highly profitable.  They same goes with roulette.  I am always striving for the "perfect play", regardless if it's RNG, or live, 0 or 00.  I can predict with great consistency, what numbers are coming in, that's not a myth. It's a fact.

I regard poker as means to exercise "perfect play strategy".  The application applies to most gaming strategies.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Deja Vue .
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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 07:23:40 PM
The difference between poker and roulette is the EV.The EV of the roulettedepends on the betting and lies between 1,35 and 2,7 for every spin. In my opinion poker has no EV.
The only way to beat the roulette is your skill and a proven strategy. The EV is not beatable!!

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 10:07:10 PM
schoenpoetser,

What do you mean by EV, expected value?

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 10:09:01 PM
ND,

ditto.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
Crackers,

Empirical evidence may trump confirmation bias.  However, empirical evidence may also be considered "voo doo" because your conclusions are based on what you have learned over the years directly or indirectly with roulette.  Are you a seasoned poker player with extended experience of direct and indirect observations?  If so, you may see the direct correlation between poker strategy and roulette. It's not about which one trumps the other; it's about similar attributes in strategy.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 02, 2012, 11:11:57 PM
Kimo li ... I've long since been an admired observer of yours. You actually have a few books to sell. I know what I'm talking about. I won't go into this. Just keep up the work.
I am sort of living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 03, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
Crackers,

I hear you.

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 03, 2012, 01:56:35 AM
Poker and roulette are very similar, variance.
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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 03, 2012, 01:59:36 PM
***********In roulette, you have to know the ball movement idiosyncrasies of the croupier and the type of wheel being played, especially when the dealer changes*****Quote by Kimo Li******

If anyone  does not get it what Kimo Li  and myself have previously posted  then i must tell you bluntly:

YOU MUST OPERATE ON ALL CYLINDERS   or forget  about playing   any casino  game..No pussy footing around  :ok:

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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 03, 2012, 05:14:18 PM
Kimo Li
The expected value of the french roulette is the mathematical advantage.For all chances except the ECs the EV is
100%x1/37=2,70% For the EC is the EV is 100%x0,5/37=1,35%. For a mix bet for example 3 fiche on High and one on the sixline 13/18 The EV is between 1,35% and 2,7%.

For the Americanwheel with double zero the EV is 100%-100%x36/38=5,3%.


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Re: Poker vs Roulette
September 03, 2012, 06:04:54 PM
schoenpoetser


I believe  that Kimo Li is  very well aware of that math  . But no all 0/00 in the  United States adhere to your calculations: There are exceptions to the rule.

All 11 casinos within the  Atlantic City gaming  jurisdiction  are subject to the en prison rule if any of the 0/00 are  showing.

This  rule  does NOT apply to the  single 0 wheel within that same  jurisdiction.Total loss iforEC.
 I believe  Kimo Li  is aware of this fact.

h According to one of his  previous posts he even cited certain advantages of the  0/00 wheel over the   single  0 wheel  in regard to the  distribution of the  numbers on the 0/00 wheel  and how  easy it is  to remember  their  sequence

I suspect this cat knows roulette.

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