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Using Phantom Losses To Help Your Progression

Started by robroulette, September 20, 2012, 11:17:11 AM

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robroulette

It seems to me a good strategy, when a progression is involved, is to lose several times in a row before betting money.

That way, for example, if your progression normally allows 12 spins before you hit your limit and you place phantom bets (meaning no money) for the first 4 spins, you now have 16 spins before you hit your limit. Of course, you might win on your first 4 spins and have to start over.

Has anyone been doing this for a long time and if so, do you believe it helps you out significantly? Or when do you do it? Maybe with larger bets than your normal bankroll?

Thanks!

-Rob

Nathan Detroit

At one time they announced how many people died  in traffic accidents over a certain holiday. Two elderly ladies  were sitting near the  TV listening  to the  casualty reports. Then  it was announced that 515 people were killed in traffic accidents..

" O.K. Mabel , now we can leave they said it would be 515 traffic deaths. We are safe now".

Sure you are safe with your " phantom " bets  . LOL



N.D.

robroulette

Okay, well thanks for the feedback N.D.

It sure makes me feel safer and I win a lot earlier in my progressions, so perhaps there's simply less anxiety when playing and that's why I like it.

Has anyone else tried this and what are your thoughts?

Nathan Detroit

Maybe  you mean the " sleeper" system. If one of your selections has not shown then you might give it a shot when you believe it is in your favor.


Assuming that BLACK is the  favorite dominant. Then I would  wait for  3 reds   then  bet  on Black.
Example -R-R-R- no bets on those reds then bet  Black

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If you  check the board  you will find that people  will do the same with Columns, dozens, dbl streets , or  street. Just keep your eye open. Some  even go for  one or  two straight up numbers that haven`t shown for a while.


Just keep looking.




N.D.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

bombus

Hi robroulette.

I used to do it with streets.

I would track 2 tables at the same time, but only ever bet on 1 table at a time. So if I was in the middle of a proression on table 1, and table 2 started a bet, I would continue playing table 1 and phantom bet table 2 until the table 1 bet finished then I would switch to table 2 and commence betting. Unless the table 2 bet finished before the table 1 bet in which case I would just keep tracking for the next available bet.

The difference with my method was that I had more than 1 progression chart so instead of starting the table 2 bet from step 1 of the basic progression I would start betting from step 1 of one of several compressed progressions depending on how many phantom bets were made.

So I used the phantom bets to increase the profit of the bet, not the duration.

Cheers.

robroulette

Thanks N.D. and Bombus for your replies.

If anything I play the opposite of a sleeper system feeling like if a number lands on 5 red, it's a proven outcome for that wheel and will likely hit again - hoping there's a bias in the wheel.

I realize that mathematically any system can be proven to lose over a long period of time (otherwise, we'd all play the system that beats the math). But I really enjoy the phantom bets - I guess if my phantom bets "win" I think "cool - I would have won with this strategy" and if they "lose" I think "whew - glad I waited". Then when I win late in a progression, I realize that I might have lost my whole bankroll if I hadn't had those first several phantom bets. And if I lose a progression (rare) after phantom betting, I think "wow, if I had started betting real money earlier and gone this far, I would have lost even more - a lot more".

So I suppose it's just looking at the game through a different lens - but I enjoy these phantom bets.

Just wondering if anyone else was using phantom bets - not to mathematically beat the casino, but perhaps for a little less anxiety when playing a progression.

Thanks!

TwoCatSam


MiniBaccarat

G'day,

Quote from: robroulette on September 22, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
I realize that mathematically any system can be proven to lose over a long period of time

That's NOT true!

Quote from: robroulette on September 22, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
(otherwise, we'd all play the system that beats the math).

Unless You don't know it!

Glenn.

MiniBaccarat

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