[Progression Question] Bank Roll

[BCShad0w]

Good evening all.

I wanted to put forward my idea at the moment regarding bank roll management and have some feedback. I am currently on William Hill. My thinking is consisting around Flat Betting on a particular Street after 15 - 18 spins. I would then look for the Street that has had 2 of the 3 hit, then cover all three equally.

I have checked the table limits (Current table) and the maximum Flat Bet is £100. I have therefore put together this table of progession; (Is in the attachment)

As you can see, it could cover 47 spins. After the 47th spin - You've hit the table maximum. I would like to put forward now that I currently have a BR of £422.00. While the table is in £1, you can see that to cover 47 spins and you're needing a balance of £1167.00.

From these figures I'd have;

Maximum Winnings; £33
Minimum Winnings; £3
Spins covered; 35
BR needed (All I have £422.00); £399.00

The minimum Flat Bet is £0.10, so if I was to take that into account and divide/multiply everything on that table by 10, I'd have:

Maximum Winnings; £3.30
Minimum Winnings; £0.30
Spins Covered; 470
BR needed; £116.70

In my opinion, covering 470 spins is a bit excessive so I was thinking closer to Flat Betting £.50, giving me figures of;

Maximum Winnings; £16.50
Minimum Winnings; £1.50
Spins Covered; 94
BR needed; £583.50

I also have access to a table limit of £.50/£200.00 on the Flat Bet. I just wanted some feedback to see if my math's are a mess, if the idea on this bank roll management wold not work etc. In regards to being happy to make a minimum of £1.50 - I'm happy as long as I am up and being responsible. These small bet sizes are something I only see online and really am trying to take advantage of them.

Thanks for taking the time to read this!
Chez

[soggett]

I dont get if you are trying to flat bet or want a progression?

you are betting 3 numbers, right?

the standard progression for 3 numbers and a 1000 unit BR is:

Spin   Ratio   35:1   Spent/Overall   35:1
1   bet   1   3 / 3   33
2   bet   1   6 / 6   30
3   bet   1   9 / 9   27
4   bet   1   12 / 12   24
5   bet   1   15 / 15   21
6   bet   1   18 / 18   18
7   bet   1   21 / 21   15
8   bet   1   24 / 24   12
9   bet   1   27 / 27   9
10   bet   1   30 / 30   6
11   bet   1   33 / 33   3
12   bet   2   39 / 39   33
13   bet   2   45 / 45   27
14   bet   2   51 / 51   21
15   bet   2   57 / 57   15
16   bet   2   63 / 63   9
17   bet   2   69 / 69   3
18   bet   3   78 / 78   30
19   bet   3   87 / 87   21
20   bet   3   96 / 96   12
21   bet   3   105 / 105   3
22   bet   4   117 / 117   27
23   bet   4   129 / 129   15
24   bet   4   141 / 141   3
25   bet   5   156 / 156   24
26   bet   5   171 / 171   9
27   bet   6   189 / 189   27
28   bet   6   207 / 207   9
29   bet   7   228 / 228   24
30   bet   7   249 / 249   3
31   bet   8   273 / 273   15
32   bet   9   300 / 300   24
33   bet   10   330 / 330   30
34   bet   11   363 / 363   33
35   bet   12   399 / 399   33
36   bet   13   438 / 438   30
37   bet   14   480 / 480   24
38   bet   15   525 / 525   15
39   bet   16   573 / 573   3
40   bet   18   627 / 627   21
41   bet   20   687 / 687   33
42   bet   21   750 / 750   6
43   bet   23   819 / 819   9
44   bet   25   894 / 894   6
45   bet   28   978 / 978   30


you can do your own at loothog.com



if you want to flatbet it that's another story

you made a typo I pressume with 470 spins?

and I dont get the last one with 94 spins

[BCShad0w]

I dont get if you are trying to flat bet or want a progression?

you are betting 3 numbers, right?

Yea, covering an entire street

the standard progression for 3 numbers and a 1000 unit BR is:

Spin   Ratio   35:1   Spent/Overall   35:1
1   bet   1   3 / 3   33
2   bet   1   6 / 6   30
3   bet   1   9 / 9   27
4   bet   1   12 / 12   24
5   bet   1   15 / 15   21
6   bet   1   18 / 18   18
7   bet   1   21 / 21   15
8   bet   1   24 / 24   12
9   bet   1   27 / 27   9
10   bet   1   30 / 30   6
11   bet   1   33 / 33   3
12   bet   2   39 / 39   33
13   bet   2   45 / 45   27
14   bet   2   51 / 51   21
15   bet   2   57 / 57   15
16   bet   2   63 / 63   9
17   bet   2   69 / 69   3
18   bet   3   78 / 78   30
19   bet   3   87 / 87   21
20   bet   3   96 / 96   12
21   bet   3   105 / 105   3
22   bet   4   117 / 117   27
23   bet   4   129 / 129   15
24   bet   4   141 / 141   3
25   bet   5   156 / 156   24
26   bet   5   171 / 171   9
27   bet   6   189 / 189   27
28   bet   6   207 / 207   9
29   bet   7   228 / 228   24
30   bet   7   249 / 249   3
31   bet   8   273 / 273   15
32   bet   9   300 / 300   24
33   bet   10   330 / 330   30
34   bet   11   363 / 363   33
35   bet   12   399 / 399   33
36   bet   13   438 / 438   30
37   bet   14   480 / 480   24
38   bet   15   525 / 525   15
39   bet   16   573 / 573   3
40   bet   18   627 / 627   21
41   bet   20   687 / 687   33
42   bet   21   750 / 750   6
43   bet   23   819 / 819   9
44   bet   25   894 / 894   6
45   bet   28   978 / 978   30

The above is on $1 units right? It would then be a BR of 489 for $.5 units? Currently I'm using $.04 units with a BR of $500


you can do your own at loothog.com



if you want to flatbet it that's another story

This is where my rookie status comes - I thought flat betting was the same a straight up bet on a number

you made a typo I pressume with 470 spins?

This was me just putting my maths down on paper. Say you're using $1 units, you can cover 47 spins before you hit $99/ go bust per number (Maximum is $100 per number) Now if you're you use $.1 units, it would take you 470 spins to go bust/ hit $99 per number. Was just me thinking out loud.

and I dont get the last one with 94 spins

Again, me putting thoughts down on paper - $1 units cover 47 spins before going bust/ hitting maximum bet, so $.5 units would give you the time to cover 94 spins before reach maximum bet/ going bust

Please see all responses in bold.

Chez

[BCShad0w]

Please see all responses in bold.

Chez

In regards to the 470 spins and 94 spins, this would not work, as progression would be different. Scrap my thoughts in my original post !

Chez

[soggett]

ok, I got the most part
don't worry cause you are new, we have all been there

the table I posted is in units so you can use whatever you like
you asked for $0.4
then that is your 1 unit
and when you have to bet 1 unit you bet $0.4, when you have to bet 2 units you bet $0.8, do you get it?
1 unit can be $1, and it can be $50, depends on your BR
and loothog will tell you in units, you cant change that

flatbetting is when you dont change the stake - meaning you always put the same amount of money
if you are using ie $1 then you would bet $3 per spin ( $1 on each number )  every spin till you end your session
so you don't change the amount bet

now if you use a progression then your amount bet changes (usually so you are in plus when you hit)

hope it is a bit clearer, english is not my first language so ask away if there is something you dont get

btw you can bet a street instead of 3 numbers, that way the BR required will be lower but you will also win less

ie, the progression for 1 street is:

Spin   Ratio   11:1   Spent/Overall   11:1
1   bet   1   1 / 1   11
2   bet   1   2 / 2   10
3   bet   1   3 / 3   9
4   bet   1   4 / 4   8
5   bet   1   5 / 5   7
6   bet   1   6 / 6   6
7   bet   1   7 / 7   5
8   bet   1   8 / 8   4
9   bet   1   9 / 9   3
10   bet   1   10 / 10   2
11   bet   1   11 / 11   1
12   bet   2   13 / 13   11
13   bet   2   15 / 15   9
14   bet   2   17 / 17   7
15   bet   2   19 / 19   5
16   bet   2   21 / 21   3
17   bet   2   23 / 23   1
18   bet   3   26 / 26   10
19   bet   3   29 / 29   7
20   bet   3   32 / 32   4
21   bet   3   35 / 35   1
22   bet   4   39 / 39   9
23   bet   4   43 / 43   5
24   bet   4   47 / 47   1
25   bet   5   52 / 52   8
26   bet   5   57 / 57   3
27   bet   6   63 / 63   9
28   bet   6   69 / 69   3
29   bet   7   76 / 76   8
30   bet   7   83 / 83   1
31   bet   8   91 / 91   5
32   bet   9   100 / 100   8
33   bet   10   110 / 110   10
34   bet   11   121 / 121   11
35   bet   12   133 / 133   11
36   bet   13   146 / 146   10
37   bet   14   160 / 160   8
38   bet   15   175 / 175   5
39   bet   16   191 / 191   1
40   bet   18   209 / 209   7
41   bet   20   229 / 229   11
42   bet   21   250 / 250   2
43   bet   23   273 / 273   3
44   bet   25   298 / 298   2
45   bet   28   326 / 326   10
46   bet   30   356 / 356   4
47   bet   33   389 / 389   7
48   bet   36   425 / 425   7
49   bet   39   464 / 464   4
50   bet   43   507 / 507   9
51   bet   47   554 / 554   10
52   bet   51   605 / 605   7
53   bet   56   661 / 661   11
54   bet   61   722 / 722   10
55   bet   66   788 / 788   4
56   bet   72   860 / 860   4
57   bet   79   939 / 939   9


so it takes less money for the same 45 spins or you can use the same 1000 units and get a bit more spins

just be careful cause a street can sleep for a long time

[soggett]

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