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#### TwoCatSam

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 22, 2008, 03:21:34 PM
Let's take your last example and use it

L-6/6=1=7 lost
L-6/7=2=9 lost
L-6/9=2=11 lost
L-6/11=2=13 lost (4 lost bets in a row Divisor up 1 to 7)
W-7/13=2=15 Won -6=9 ( won so Divisor down 1 to 6)
L-6/9=2=11 lost
W-6/11=2=13 Won-6=7 (won so down 1 to 5)
L-5/7=2=9 lost
W-5/9=2=11 won-6=5 (won so down 1 to 4) Etc
W-4/5=2=7 won-6=1 (1 from 6 win target={5} profit)......what if this line had been an L?

I guess my question is this:  OK, you raise the divisor after four losses in a row.  Then you hit a win.  Now...do you only raise the divisor after four more losses in a row?  Or do you raise the divisor every fourth loss whether or not they are in a row, that is, back-to-back.?

Sam

Maybe the answer lies in the fact the divisor goes down with each win, so you need not raise it until four in a row.  Did I answer my question?  LOL

#### Lanky

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 22, 2008, 07:28:08 PM
Let's take your last example and use it

L-6/6=1=7 lost
L-6/7=2=9 lost
L-6/9=2=11 lost
L-6/11=2=13 lost (4 lost bets in a row Divisor up 1 to 7)
W-7/13=2=15 Won -6=9 ( won so Divisor down 1 to 6)
L-6/9=2=11 lost
W-6/11=2=13 Won-6=7 (won so down 1 to 5)
L-5/7=2=9 lost
W-5/9=2=11 won-6=5 (won so down 1 to 4) Etc
W-4/5=2=7 won-6=1 (1 from 6 win target={5} profit)......what if this line had been an L?

Then it would have looked like this Mate.
L-4/5=2=7 lost

I guess my question is this:  OK, you raise the divisor after four losses in a row.  Then you hit a win.  Now...do you only raise the divisor after four more losses in a row?  Or do you raise the divisor every fourth loss whether or not they are in a row, that is, back-to-back.?

Sam

Maybe the answer lies in the fact the divisor goes down with each win, so you need not raise it until four in a row.  Did I answer my question?  LOL

On the single Dozen bet the divisor is raised after every 4 lost bets in a row.

God Bless You Mate

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 23, 2008, 03:22:05 PM
OK, Lanky, here's a question I can't answer........

I'm going to bet at Riverbelle.  I'm going to bet the two double streets Chicco picks, so my bet will be on a dozen, just divided by two.

If my minimum bet is \$10 on a double street, what would my starting formula look like.  Each bet would have to be \$20 at least.

Sam

#### Lanky

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 23, 2008, 11:05:45 PM
OK, Lanky, here's a question I can't answer........

I'm going to bet at Riverbelle.  I'm going to bet the two double streets Chicco picks, so my bet will be on a dozen, just divided by two.

If my minimum bet is \$10 on a double street, what would my starting formula look like.  Each bet would have to be \$20 at least.

Sam

Hi Sam

Its the same Mate...the only difference is that your unit becomes \$20
Like if you were betting on a Dozen & it won It would be
6/6=1=7 so in reality its \$20 outlay & \$60 return for a profit of \$40 so it be like this
6/6=1=7 won-3=4 from win target of 6=2 <<2x 20=\$40

Or if you prefer you can do it this way in Dollars.

6/120=20=140 won-60 return=80 from 120 win target ={\$40} profit.

Even though the unit is split into 2 bets of \$10 on the lines=(D/streets) the return will be the Same.
10-lost
10-won
..............
20 out-60 return=40 profit

Good On Ya Mate

Lanky

#### Moccoman

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 24, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
Hi Sam,

I have been quite impressed with the basis of your Lanky's divisor MM plan so thought I would give it a go tonight. I hadn't done any testing but called by the casino and felt like having a bet, so thought why not. After all the real test comes on the field of battle!

So cashed in \$800 and decided to play \$10 units on the even chances using DBL on R/B on a single zero wheel.

It went like this - won the first spin so reset, then had a sequence of LLLWLLLLLLLLL (mainly a series on "terrible twos" with a zero thrown in) so I was in a big hole but continued and had WLWWLLWLW (16L/7W to here) so kept going and got WWLLWWLLWWLwww and recovered with a small profit (21L/16W) so I was impressed.

So I continued with another assault with LLWLWLLLwwwW for another win. So in I went again to have spun LLWLLLWLWLLwwwLWLW for another win.

All in all 37L/30W and won a couple of hundred. The only change I made was that if the sequence was getting a bit tedious, especially in the first set, I just reset when I got back to a new bankroll high.

I must admit that the divisor handled the 9 losses in a row pretty well, as the bets didn't climb anywhere as quickly as other MM plans I have used, and then after that I knew that eventually the terrible twos would break and decent runs of the colours would return and if not that then it would be the chops.

So thanks Sam, I will use it again as it really takes a horrible run to come unstuck but I'm sure that there will be worse runs.

Regards
Mocco

#### TwoCatSam

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 24, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
Moccoman

I had to strike the word "your" in the above post.  This is absolutely, positively not my plan.  It is Lanky's all the way.  He deserves your thanks not me.  I am sure you just confused us.

I'm happy to hear it worked for you as I have never tried it.

Sam

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 24, 2008, 04:49:57 PM
My apologies to Lanky. I guess I was so interested in the thread that I got the posts mixed up.

So Lanky, I can play on rapid roulette that has a spread of \$10 to \$1,000 on the even chances, so any progression can go pretty deep into a hole but with sufficient bankroll there is a big chance that it can recover from almost anywhere.

Regards
Mocco

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 24, 2008, 04:51:58 PM
Not to worry; I've done the same thing!!

#### Moccoman

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 27, 2008, 06:20:19 PM
Hi Lanky,

I guess once again a solid MM plan has failed to get the response it deserves.

I really like this one, its easy to keep follow and keep records and can be adjusted along the way.

Just a quick question.

You said that you had 103 winning sessions, 4 break evens and 2 losses.

Can you tell me what constitutes a loss - is it 100 units, table limit or ....? And do you count a session as a completed series, that is winning the 6 units, 10 12 etc or a session of playing, which may include a number of completed series?

Regards
Mocco

#### Lanky

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 27, 2008, 09:21:07 PM
Hi Champion

Mate this is really in the wrong place.
I just put it here as an example between it & Oscars Grind

You can read more on the Divisor over in the money management section.
http://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/
Over ther you can see how to use it as a 6 point Divisor and taking the Zero or the Zero pocket at the same time.

Mate those figures are for the Lw method that can be used on almost everything.
Victor starts off using it betting on the 5 Lines.
If that loses he goes to the Dozens & Columns to recoup & then back to the 5 Lines again.
Even though I have done this too,I mainly use it as a stand alone method on the Dozens & Columns.

And seeing as though I am averageing over 60 units per sessions played I should really put the word days there as I can play more then one time on the same day to make a session.

I will be making more posts as I get better & as time permits over in those sections mate.

Good On Ya Mate.

Lanky

#### djroulette

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 28, 2008, 02:31:39 PM
cheers Lanky for the indepth reply very very much appreciated. i am still struggling to understand it but i enjoy a challenege and i want to discover it on my own if possible. i like a good challenge.

once again thanks for all the effort.

dj

#### Lanky

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
August 31, 2008, 04:38:00 AM
cheers Lanky for the indepth reply very very much appreciated. I am still struggling to understand it but I enjoy a challenege and I want to discover it on my own if possible. I like a good challenge.

once again thanks for all the effort.

dj

Hi djroulette.

Thanks Mate.

I have just done a post over at the Divisor thread.

http://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/msg18889/#msg18889

Lanky

#### leonardong79

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
December 01, 2010, 01:11:47 AM
Hi!

Oscar' grind is better to use in blackjack or pontoon as it is the best game you can find that casino has the the least edge, and you can win 1.5 times if you hit a BJ which is better than any even choices in roulette.

I know there is someone using it in baccarat and haven't lost yet in 3 years.

Cheers,
Leo

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##### Re: Question about use of oscars grind
March 26, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Has anyone given any thought to using the six point divisor for two dozens and using the method about flip-flopping between the last hit and the last missed?