Dealer signature (or not)

[Mr J]

I'm bad at explaining things but I'll give it a shot. This thread has nothing to do with patting
the AP (cough) goofs on the back so I hope they dont take it as such. From my experience, I would say that around 97% of the time, the dealer does not look at the wheel when he/she launches that ball.

They do NOT care where it lands or at which point the ball was spun, they want to get their shift done and GO HOME. THEY GENERALLY DON'T CARE !!!!

However, quite strange how things change when there is a new dealer OR even for the 20 minute break they get (different dealer for 20 minutes).

Cant tell you the number of times I have been up (way up) and its now shift change time. Yep, for the next two hours, I come close to getting wiped out (lol). This new dealer is not out to "get me", it just works out that way. Both dealers......that ball is bouncing ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE, quite tough to get a read on it but doing GREAT with one dealer and a flop with the other....is strange.

Yes, the opposite also happens. Not doing well with one and then the new spinner starts....all of a sudden, profit is soaring. I have all shift changes written down at home, I try my best to only start with a NEW dealer.

Ken

[Steve]

I'm not saying this is the case, but I believe there are unseen forces that influence the spin outcome. It has to do with thought and/or emotion. We may be a long way from figuring it out.

If this sounds strange or far fetched, see:
nolinkss://nolinks.youtube.com/v/zKdoE1vX7k4

Basically the very act of observing an event appears to influence the outcome.

If you've spent enough time around a roulette wheel, you'll probably start to notice that some very strange things happen. Yes sometimes we think we see things, but they exist only in our imagination. But beyond that, there appears to be some real strange things going on.

One thing I think I know about it is if you THINK about it, it doesnt happen. Thought itself destroys the process. It happens more like in a daydream state, where it's like a voice in the back of your mind where it's there but you don't pay much attention to it. Like a voice that says "bet on 5" and you ignore it. And then the damn ball lands on red. Really this personally happens to me and its more accurate than 1 in 37 when it happens. But its also something I cant force to happen. Maybe others have or havent had this kind of thing happen, but it happens often to me and other players I know.

[Mr J]

Repeats are a *GREAT* example of what I mean. Most of our boards here hold 12 numbers.

With one dealer, multiple times, you will see a 3peater on the board......QUITE OFTEN. In other words, if you see the 23 hit twice, bet on that 23 until the bottom 23 drops off the history board WHILE THAT DEALER IS SPINNING.

Okay, its shift change, new dealer. For the next 8 hours, few (if any) 3peaters on the board.

I'm sorry but its just odd as heck. I can only say coincidence for so long, I have seen it too many times. Like I said, the opposite also happens. Should this occur as such? I say NO but apparently I'm wrong.

Ken

[Mr J]

I guess my point is, with Bob the dealer.....this and this happens almost through his 8 hours.

Then, John the dealer takes over. John does NONE of the things Bob did but NOW does this and this for his 8 hours. Strange as hell roulette, strange.

Ken

[Nathan Detroit]

Ken,


How often does dealer change take place ? According to V.Bethell in his 1910 book about Monte Carlo  they changed dealers mevery 20 minutes.
But  my firendly ( ?) neighborhood  Native mercan Indian casino  changes  dealers every 20 minutes  . The replacement might be  a BJ  or Bac  dealer but you will never see the  replaced  dealee   again.

[Mr J]

Same person for 8-10 hours per table game (not sure if thats good or not) but there is one employee "per section" that rotates between EVERY game, giving that dealer his/her 20 minute break. How often is the break?

I would say every 3 hours.

Ken

[Bebediktus]

Dealer signature is more name . Not necessary it have relationship with how often dealer changes. Can be diferent dealers and they throw ball in the same way.

[Mr J]

Dumb question/point but can there be dealer signature WITHOUT the dealer looking while spinning or could careless where it lands? The dealers here, nobody and I mean nobody, watches when they launch. They simply do not care.

Ken

[Bebediktus]

Can be dealer signature ( simply here is name of method ), based on falled numbers. Usually dealer  start spin over last number. So can be situation, when we see some tendency in number order, for example 0-5-35-36-18 - all hits are more or less in oposite side, so possible to use such. of course only from numbers method is very not acurate, but , sometimes it can increase chance of guessing.

[Nathan Detroit]

Dealer signature more  in reference to to sections of contiguous numbers of the wheel  rather than individual numbers.

[Mr J]

I guess I find these anomalies INTERESTING as hell especially when the dealer has no clue whats going on. MANY times, I would point out to the dealer.....hey look, you hit the 25 29 12 8 in order.

First thing they say, what does that mean? I point it out and then they say, oh yeah, thats cool.

They simply dont try for it or care about it after the fact. (lol).

Ken

[Mr J]

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