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#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 01:06:51 PM
Hello Guys

I want to share another Master piece from my Armour which I tested for around 5000 live spins with No loss so far.

Rules:
Play only against the live dealer
Record 8 unique numbers and then start playing on those 8 numbers, upon loss, include new number, upon loss include New number again

Progression Rules
1 Unit each on 8 , 9 and 10 unique numbers from Spin 9 onwards.
2 Units each on all the numbers including 11, 12 and 13 unique numbers
3 each other on all numbers including 14, 15 and 16 Unique numbers
and so on.
Continue Progression until in profit.
Exit on a single profit, this is a slow progression and with a 0.25 base unit, Max Bankroll required is 250 Units.
Logic is based upon laws of third that only 25 numbers appears in a cycle of 37 spins.
Test and post results.

This is a very promising method to play...

Example:
Bet   Profit   100
6         100
8         100
18         100
13         100
31         100
12         100
26         100
23         100
20   8      92  8 Unique numbers, Start play from Spin 9. 1 Unit on 8 numbers
4   9      83   1 unit on 9 numbers
28   10      73   1 unit on 10 numbers
1   22      51   2 Units on 11 numbers now.
26   24   72   99   2 Units on 12 numbers now. Balance negative, Continue
4   24   72   145  2 Units on 12 numbers now. 45 Units Profit.

Enjoy Winnings.

#### JLP

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 09:23:01 PM
Hi TopPlayer.

I remenber this very similar method posted long time ago by user Tinips (he had a private section here, but all was deleted).I have it somewhere on my archives.
The only difference with your method is that he waited for 10 unique numbers and he added 1 unit spin by spin (the betting is more aggresive than your progression).He not considered the zero.
The problem is when do you stop. at certain % of the bankroll in plus and which is the stop loss??
I guess when you are in profit (no matter what) you begin another sequence??

Thank you.

#### insidebet

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 10:28:48 PM
Sorry but a lot more than 25 numbers can and WILL appear in 37 spins.  I am sure that is not what you meant.

The law of third, as you call it, is nothing more than a statistical observation. No advantage can be taken from this whatsoever.

I have studied this in the past, trying to get an advantage from a distinct deviation from the norm.

For instance, if there are fewer than 23 individual numbers in the past 37 spins, I would bet that would be more in the immediate future.  So I would bet on the other 14 numbers.

On the contrary, if there 27 or more individual numbers in the last 37 spins, I would bet all the 27 thinking that a repeat was "due".

Makes sense, no?

Well!  No gain from that very logical so-called law of third method.

#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 11:15:06 PM
Inside bet & JLP

Please test this method and exit on every profit.

Post your results. We all know that numbers repeats and there are never 37 numbers coming in 37 Spins so far as this is true, this method surely works.....

you can keep SL as well as 200 Units. I havw not hit it so far...

Clue Play on WH Live dealer to always win

#### JLP

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 11:37:15 PM
Inside bet & JLP

Please test this method and exit on every profit.

Post your results. We all know that numbers repeats and there are never 37 numbers coming in 37 Spins so far as this is true, this method surely works.....

you can keep SL as well as 200 Units. I havw not hit it so far...

Clue Play on WH Live dealer to always win

Do you mean play for some hits and stop for the day or do you stop and retrack another 8 numbers and begin the sequence again??

#### JLP

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 08, 2016, 11:45:08 PM
Well, I took permanence and run the 2 methods to compare.

The Tinips method when you have some hit and not yet in profit you move down 1 step in the progression.
If you lose you keep adding chips and the new number that hit.If you got beyond the previous winning balance you reset all to 1 unit chip.If you got further hits you stay on 1 unit chip.

Attached xls file.

#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 09, 2016, 01:08:01 AM
I said continue progression until bankroll is positive. Slow progression shared earlier with an example.

once positive retrack and start new session.

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 09, 2016, 02:23:26 AM
Thanks Player!

#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 09, 2016, 11:00:52 AM
Players you may prefer to use another Conservative progression wherein after 8th Unique numbers, play 1 unit on all numbers from 9th till 13th Spin i.e 6 Spins.

2 unit from 14th to19th Spin and so on

Quit at every positive balance in bankroll and restart with 8 Unique Numbers.

This is a very conservative progression. may suit you. Please test and share results...
..

Cheers,

#### JLP

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 10, 2016, 12:53:21 AM
I noticed that after a large imbalance and you are in minus, when you aproach the level of betting on 23 or 24 numbers it comes accumulation of hits - that proves the Law of Third.
In this test of 135 spins there was 12 numbers unhit at the end.
TopPlayer what have you noticed on your games??

#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 10, 2016, 01:05:43 AM
I agree with you JLP. At 23rd 24th spin, lot of repeats comes and bank balance gets positive after multiple hits.

Read my very conservative progression betting style which will help in overcoming drastic negative balance till number repeats and come in succession.

Overall must exit on profit at any stage of progression..

Seems Holy Grail to me and the only way anyone can lose is When 37 different numbers comes in 37 spins which is simply Impossible,....

Will appreciate the views of Nathan, Mr J, Steve and others.

#### weddings

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 12, 2016, 04:54:11 PM
Quote
33   1
6   2
11   3
10   4
5   5
1   6
15   7
12   8   GO                  0
27   9   1   0   L   8   36   -8   -8
25   10   1   0   L   9   36   -9   -17
19   11   1   0   L   10   36   -10   -27
26   12   2   0   L   22   72   -22   -49
16   13   2   0   L   24   72   -24   -73
35   14   2   0   L   26   72   -26   -99
22   15   3   0   L   42   108   -42   -141
2   16   3   0   L   45   108   -45   -186
20   17   3   0   L   48   108   -48   -234
3   18   4   0   L   68   144   -68   -302
36   19   4   0   L   72   144   -72   -374
29   20   4   0   L   76   144   -76   -450
20   20   5   1   W   100   180   80   -370
19   20   5   1   W   100   180   80   -290
0   21   5   0   L   100   180   -100   -390
27   21   5   1   W   105   180   75   -315
9   22   5   0   L   105   180   -105   -420
30   23   5   0   L   110   180   -110   -530
13   24   6   0   L   138   216   -138   -668
18   25   6   0   L   144   216   -144   -812
12   25   6   1   W   150   216   66   -746
21   26   6   0   L   150   216   -150   -896
21   26   7   1   W   182   252   70   -826
30   26   7   1   W   182   252   70   -756
6   26   7   1   W   182   252   70   -686
14   27   7   0   L   182   252   -182   -868
10   27   7   1   W   189   252   63   -805
36   27   7   1   W   189   252   63   -742
23   28   7   0   L   189   252   -189   -931
8   29   7   0   L   196   252   -196   -1127
12   29   8   2   W   232   288   56   -1071
17   30   8   0   L   232   288   -232   -1303
6   30   8   2   W   240   288   48   -1255
11   30   8   1   W   240   288   48   -1207
16   30   8   1   W   240   288   48   -1159
6   30   8   3   W   240   288   48   -1111
6   30   8   4   W   240   288   48   -1063
3   30   8   1   W   240   288   48   -1015
34   31   8   0   L   240   288   -240   -1255
35   31   8   1   W   248   288   40   -1215
15   31   8   1   W   248   288   40   -1175
26   31   8   1   W   248   288   40   -1135
26   31   8   2   W   248   288   40   -1095
3   31   8   2   W   248   288   40   -1055
14   31   8   1   W   248   288   40   -1015
17   31   8   1   W   248   288   40   -975
7   32   8   0   L   248   288   -248   -1223
6   32   9   5   W   288   324   36   -1187
2   32   9   1   W   288   324   36   -1151
36   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -1115
21   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -1079
18   32   9   1   W   288   324   36   -1043
25   32   9   1   W   288   324   36   -1007
35   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -971
2   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -935
30   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -899
18   32   9   2   W   288   324   36   -863
31   33   9   0   L   288   324   -288   -1151
10   33   9   2   W   297   324   27   -1124
30   33   9   3   W   297   324   27   -1097
27   33   9   2   W   297   324   27   -1070
10   33   9   3   W   297   324   27   -1043
19   33   9   2   W   297   324   27   -1016
32   34   9   0   L   297   324   -297   -1313

This is how you lose

#### insidebet

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 12, 2016, 08:44:54 PM
I tested this in a few different ways and you get to -250 units very quickly no matter what progression you use.  In fact, in one of my tests, the drawdown was so big that I would have had to win something like 30 times in a row just to get one chip +.

This is not the Grail, my friend.

Insidebet

#### TopPlayer1975

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 13, 2016, 11:11:03 PM
I agree with Insidebet and Weddings that drawdowns can happen,hence SL is very Important.

Here is the Holy Grail based upon the Wheel Bias technique...

pick a wheel, record 1000 live Spins and identify 12 -13 numbers who hit greater than 30 times. bet on those after 3-4 misses upto 12 times or you may use flat progression as well.

#### Nathan Detroit

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##### Re: Another System from my Armour
May 14, 2016, 09:31:03 AM
What do you mean by  "unique" numbers?

Thanks.

ND

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