DEALER CHANGE

[admin]

Cast your opinion on dealer change!

Please submit your vote on what you do and elaborate on why (whether it is yes or no). [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[lucky_strike]

Well i am allowed to have my opinions. Here is 3 of them. [smiley=lolk.gif]

First of all i don't care if there is a dealer or a monkey ho put that ball in motion.

Second they can change the wheels to different tabels when they are closed it does not matter or  effect my way of playing.

But ofcours i only play EC and the opinions are based upon that. [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Regarding numbers and sector shooting i cant give you any comment. 8-)

Cheers Lucky Strike [smiley=dankk2.gif]

[Lohnro]

To me, a "Dealer Change" is just the same as a "Table Change". There is no way that the new dealer is going to roll the same numbers that the old dealer would of.

[LeBear]

Hi Mates,
   I think the dealer change is more of a psychological change for the table than a physical change for the table.  The patrons that are losing relish the change as maybe there fortunes might reverse.  Where as those that are winning fear that there fortune may change also but for the worse.  My vote would be no!

best regards,

LeBear

[Wildcard]

I always considered dealer change had no effect over the randomness of outcomes (how could they?).

Anyway, i just came up with this idea for a system and recently made the first real money session (online live table, the smallest value chips i could find...) and just before i started placing bets, there was a dealer change, so i began to wonder what to do !

Then i said to myself : " This is roulette, the dealer is just .... A DEALER ". Then, i went for it as if nothing happened, and i didn´t notice anything out of the ordinary. How could i ?

I´m voting NO !

PS: In case you´re wondering, i won that session,  [smiley=1/happyface.gif] - looking forward to the next.

[admin]

Thank you guys for your opinions.

How about the people who voted "YES"? Can you "YES guys" elaborate ?



I did a funny test. Saw the disk and how the ball was dropping spin after spin for both actuals and RNG.

In both there were times with a "hot" disk-sector (yes, even in RNG! -as expected, since ideally both the dealer spin and the RNG are not rigged but actually random), but I still have my doubts on playing RNG's for real money, so I stick with the dealer ones. I am not acussing anyone, but if the outcome of the game is rigged, I want to see the physical ball bounce "amazingly freaky" time after time, rather than "keep the faith" the people paying at the casino who had the ability to broadcast the winning number will be lettting me win (when it is as easy to simply retry another "100% RANDOM SPIN" till it gets a number which suits them -a technique which is not unheard of, and it is still a "100% random" outcome :-/).



As for raw dealer change, I have my own gray area.

I don't think it matters at all for hardcore layout-based play such as the even changes or using 5 lines, but I DO consider about the very real change in the hot/cold area of the disk as a direct effect of a change in the physics of the hand spinning -no two dealer spin at the same strength, and everyone surely has its own "twist" to spinning the ball.

Should I include a "Gray Area" option at the poll?

[Mr J]

It makes *NO* difference at all. You could line-up 37 different dealers, all spinning just once. When done, you will get (average) the same stats as if one dealer did it for all 37. Let me ask the posters that voted YES a question. Lets say I recorded 60 live spins from 3 different dealers. I give you these numbers, can you tell me WHERE the dealer change took place? If no, why?  Ken

[roger]

But, what i've noticed is that with some dealers i hag much greater results then with the some others, so mabey you coudn't see there was a dealers chance on paper, i mean statistics dont tell everything.  It do have affect on the table does the dealer trow left handed or right handed, spun the wheel the other way etc

[Mr J]

"I've noticed is that with some dealers" ----Okay, I'll re-word my example. If you gave me the names of two of these dealers you are referring to. I'll add in another dealer you have never met. 60 spins with these three dealers. I give you those spins on paper. Could you then show me where the dealer change took place?  Ken

[admin]

But, what i've noticed is that with some dealers i hag much greater results then with the some others, so mabey you coudn't see there was a dealers chance on paper, i mean statistics dont tell everything.  It do have affect on the table does the dealer trow left handed or right handed, spun the wheel the other way etc

Thanks for your input Roger, always refreshing to read your opinions and -of course- I'm glad to see "yes" people elaborating!  

[Kimo Li]

It has been my experience that whenever there is a dealer change, the trends which have not been coming in, all of a sudden the numbers start coming in.

The only explanation I can offer is that the speed and velocity of the ball and the spin on the wheel head differs for each dealer.   Perhaps the influence of the outcome is based on muscle strength and rythmn of each individual.

In any case, yes I have used dealer change in my decision to pursue a particualr bet.  For other strategies I use, it does not matter.  The bottom line, at least to me, is whatever works.

Kimo Li

[hoper35]

Whether real or just in my imagination, I often feel unlucky with a new dealer.  I will switch tables if I lose the first few bets.

[admin]

Hi hoper, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the family.

Cutting losses from its root is very advisable. Are you playing the physical approach?

Regards,
Victor

[straight-talker]

Dealer change does not affect my game.  I have read people say that the dealer can target away from sectors. If you are playing say 5 numbers, then you have a hit rate of roughly 1/7. So assuming the deviation goes to 3 against you, in other words 21 spins. You can see how people may start thinking what is going on here, is the dealer targeting areas to spin to. NO it is just the nature of the wheel.

[Spike]

I play a very specific game and the change of dealers can effect it greatly. So I wait a couple spins and see which direction they're going.

Ever see a dealer and a player in sync and the player is hitting and hitting, and as soon as they change dealers he never wins again? Do you think thats an accident? The new dealer is inadvertantly throwing a different game than the last dealer. I have never met an old time roulette player who didn't respect the dealer change.

[Spike]

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