Personal consideration of a B/R Holy Grail System.

[codegenic]

The following system aims for:

Long term winning strategy
BR consideration, no criteria sizewise
None or very little progression
Covering the entire table and still make a profit
Fast recovery opportunities
Minimize the waiting for a certain pattern/trigger enabeling plenty og betting opportunities

The system:

Free spin and wait for the following trigger: 3x BBB or 3x RRR. - This will happen often.

Bet the opposite color +2 units and 1 on last winning color.
example
BBB - bet 2 on R and 1 on B

now for the catch. bet the smallest amount available on 0 ( zero ), but keep in mind the calculation requires this bet to provide equal or more profit than the outcome of the units bet on B/R. So in total you bet will look like this:

colors appeared : 3x BBB
bet 2 on R
bet 1 on B
and 0.1 ( if minimum ) on 0 (zero)

lets continue.

if R wins, then you are up 1 unit - 0.1 bet on 0

if R and B loses, then you are up 0.1 x 36 - bets on B and R ( this happens more than often and is very nice )

if B wins, then you are down 1 unit and have to decide which recovery play to chose. I use one of two options.

1. I continue to bet on B with 1 unit, since we might as well have hit a streak and thus recovered all losses in one spin.
- if you have a gutfeeling the streak is long, you naturally keep betting after having recovered the loss.

2. I bite the dust and accept the loss of 1 unit, recovering it over the next few plays, either by combining option 1 with doubling the next bet after a new trigger.

Option 1 would appeal to many since the extra winnings made here can makeup for a loss or two in a row.

Important notices.
Always restart cycle after a win
Always cover 0 with the smallest bet possible
Never panic and go Martingale on this system
Set a loft for winnings, ie. +50 and one for losses, ie. -5

I have only tried this system for a few weeks now, so I could have been lucky and missed a valid point or two. However, 10.000 + spins and lowest drawdown of 4 units, atleast indicates to me that this could be used as is or modified to "perfection" if needed.

My BR is not impressive, but I have made a total of 1.469 units plus since the beginning of this and no loss, since it was recovered during play.

Let me know what you think.
Kind regards

//Codegenic.

[Proofreaders2000]

I remember seeing a variation of this on RouletteForum called Absolute Winner.  I tried the Dozens version of this. Didn't work out.  What if the recovery part doesn't recover (Which was my case.)  The number kept hitting the least winning dozen until I couldn't continue the system.  Is there a stop loss? How about safeguards?

[codegenic]

I remember seeing a variation this on RouletteForum call Absolute Winner.  I tried the Dozens version of this. Didn't work out.  What if the recovery part doesn't revover (Which was my case.)  The number kept hitting the least winning dozen until I couldn't contunue the system.  Is there a stop loss? How about safeguards?

The stop loss is the limit you set personally. If you go 3 cycles without winning, then your loss will be a total of 3 no matter how you do the math, being that you accept the 1 loss unit per cycle without recovering using option 1.
Safeguards, again, is up to you, but by not using progression etc you play safe and minimize losses.

Playing dozens is not to be compared with this play. You could have 2 dozens "sleeping", but either color bet will come out, and both are betted on, so I dont think that is fair comparisson. The advantage with this system is hitting streaks faster and covering 0 as well.

[Proofreaders2000]

Could you provide some sample tests? Elaborate step-by-step if you would please (lots of details)

[See_Jerek]

Could you provide some sample tests? Elaborate step-by-step if you would please (lots of details)

Yes that will be appreciated

[See_Jerek]

I remember seeing a variation of this on RouletteForum called Absolute Winner.  I tried the Dozens version of this. Didn't work out.  What if the recovery part doesn't recover (Which was my case.)  The number kept hitting the least winning dozen until I couldn't continue the system.  Is there a stop loss? How about safeguards?

I played AW too,it was good for a while I did won around 3000 units with it then boom hit a maximum progression and lose around 1000 units.But its ok,I stop and just collected the balance 2000.

[coolpaddy]

Hi Codegenic,

I'm a little puzzled:-

You bet 2 chips on the opposite, 1 chip on the same as last and .1 chip on zero (following a string of three wins for R or B). Total chips in play = 3.1

Return for opposite win    = 4       =  +0.9 chips profit
Return for same win         = 2       =  -1.1 chips loss
Return for zero win          = 3.6     =  +1.5 chips profit


Just betting 1 chip on opposite and .1 chip on zero Total chips in play = 1.1

Return for opposite win  = 2         =    +0.9 chips profit
Return for same win       = 0         =    -1.1 chips loss
Return for zero win        = 3.6       =   +2.5 chips profit




Good luck and keep winning.



                     
                                                             Best regards 

[coolpaddy]

Hi Codegenic,

I have a typo above - the return for a zero win is 3.6    profit = +.5


Betting the opposite and zero wins significantly more when zero hits, 2.5 instead of 0.5
If the method is working well for you try betting it this way and you will profit more when zero hits and profit (or lose) exactly the same when it doesn't.




                                                             Best regards

[mystidark]

Haha, I'm gonna have to start keeping a notebook on all your B/R system variations CG 

Keep up the good work!

MD 

[codegenic]

Thank you all for your responses. I will get back to you here on with an extended play session. I just came home from London. Wont be long, no more than two hours.

//Codegenic

[codegenic]

Could you provide some sample tests? Elaborate step-by-step if you would please (lots of details)

Yes that will be appreciated

the following series is taken from last nights play:
B B R B R R B B R B B   R  B  B   B  R  R   R  R   R  R  B   R  R   R  R  0   R  B   B  B   R  R  B   B  B  R   B  R   R  R  R   0
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

spin 1-12 shows no trigger, so no bets are placed

spin 13 - 15 equals 3 identical colors, and qualifies as trigger.
I therefore placed a bet at 1 unit on the color R and won
spin 16 - R - bet 1
spin 17 - R - bet 1 - W ( I continued betting hoping it was a streak )
spin 18 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 19 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 20 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 21 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 22 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 23 - 25, another trigger

spin 26 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 27 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )
spin 28 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 29 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 29- 31, another trigger

spin 32 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 33 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 34 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 34 - 36, another trigger

spin 37 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 38 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 39-41, another trigger

spin 42 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 43 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )

I then quit since I got ahead and felt it was time to get back to my hotelroom

Let me know if you need more examples.

//Codegenic

[JLP]

Could you provide some sample tests? Elaborate step-by-step if you would please (lots of details)

Yes that will be appreciated

the following series is taken from last nights play:
B B R B R R B B R B B   R  B  B   B  R  R   R  R   R  R  B   R  R   R  R  0   R  B   B  B   R  R  B   B  B  R   B  R   R  R  R   0
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

spin 1-12 shows no trigger, so no bets are placed

spin 13 - 15 equals 3 identical colors, and qualifies as trigger.
I therefore placed a bet at 1 unit on the color R and won
spin 16 - R - bet 1
spin 17 - R - bet 1 - W ( I continued betting hoping it was a streak )
spin 18 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 19 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 20 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 21 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 22 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 23 - 25, another trigger

spin 26 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 27 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )
spin 28 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 29 - B - bet 1 - L ---> Here when you lose for the 1st.time you always stop and wait for  another new trigger (3BBB or 3RRR in a row)??

spin 29- 31, another trigger

spin 32 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 33 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 34 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 34 - 36, another trigger

spin 37 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 38 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 39-41, another trigger

spin 42 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 43 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )

I then quit since I got ahead and felt it was time to get back to my hotelroom

Let me know if you need more examples.

//Codegenic

Hi Codegenic,
Thanks for your new approach on the R/B system.
I like the play on the even chances mate.
I put some questions on the same quote of your last post.
¿What amount of bankroll you recommend?
Also you play for a specific target (like for example :40/50 units per session) and quit or quit when you are ahead for a certain amount??

Cheers,
JLP.-

[codegenic]

Could you provide some sample tests? Elaborate step-by-step if you would please (lots of details)

Yes that will be appreciated

the following series is taken from last nights play:
B B R B R R B B R B B   R  B  B   B  R  R   R  R   R  R  B   R  R   R  R  0   R  B   B  B   R  R  B   B  B  R   B  R   R  R  R   0
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

spin 1-12 shows no trigger, so no bets are placed

spin 13 - 15 equals 3 identical colors, and qualifies as trigger.
I therefore placed a bet at 1 unit on the color R and won
spin 16 - R - bet 1
spin 17 - R - bet 1 - W ( I continued betting hoping it was a streak )
spin 18 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 19 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 20 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 21 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 22 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 23 - 25, another trigger

spin 26 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 27 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )
spin 28 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 29 - B - bet 1 - L ---> Here when you lose for the 1st.time you always stop and wait for  another new trigger (3BBB or 3RRR in a row)??

spin 29- 31, another trigger

spin 32 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 33 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 34 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 34 - 36, another trigger

spin 37 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 38 - B - bet 1 - L

spin 39-41, another trigger

spin 42 - R - bet 1 - W
spin 43 - R - bet 1 - LW ( this time I won 36 x 0.1 units because 0 is always covered with the lowest bet )

I then quit since I got ahead and felt it was time to get back to my hotelroom

Let me know if you need more examples.

//Codegenic

Hi Codegenic,
Thanks for your new approach on the R/B system.
I like the play on the even chances mate.
I put some questions on the same quote of your last post.
¿What amount of bankroll you recommend?
Also you play for a specific target (like for example :40/50 units per session) and quit or quit when you are ahead for a certain amount??

Cheers,
JLP.-

Depending on the size of your bets, I would recommend as little as 10 units with the ability of betting 0.1 / 1 / 5 / 10
or 30 units if betsizes are 1/5/10/25.

Targetplay isnt the key element here as you are not challenged with great drawdowns. I would however recommend that you time your playsessions not to durate of more than 20 minutes per session. Manage to get out with at profit, then restart the online casino eg, and play another 20 for more profits.. This way, if you play an hour a day, then you will obtain 3 x times profit totaling somewhere between 10-20 units per session, giving you a total of 30-60 a day. Euros that is

//Codegenic

[Proofreaders2000]

I see why you call this a Holy Grail, it has potential.  Made a little money from and like you said after about 20 minutes it's time to leave.  For me, the losses began to accumulate soonafter.

[codegenic]

I see why you call this a Holy Grail, it has potential.  Made a little money from and like you said after about 20 minutes it's time to leave.  A little after, the losses began to accumulate.

I am very carefull using that term. By no means is this system by definition "the holy grail", but it does show potential as you say.
Regarding the 20 minutes session, yes I must admit, it seems algorythms change at this point.
Its very important playing the 0 as well, could be a life saver.

I did however add another play to this, by altering the style a bit. Focusing on streaks only. Takes longer but also makes up for the bets spent.
By simply changing the play to, waiting for 3 x BBB or RRR, and then actually betting on the same color showing up for 3 times, then you are more than likely to hit a 4-9 streak.

example

BBB hits,
you then bet B, it hits and you continue hitting it till it loses.
Eg. BBB, then B hits again and you keep betting  -B B B B then R, where you lose. But you still made a nice profit.
Remember betting the 0 everytime during this.

Should you be unlucky,

BBB then B then R, you didnt lose either way since you invested the 1 unit won from earlier hoping to hit another B

//Codegenic

[codegenic]

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