RB 4 Stage Count + LW

[Breeze88]

Hi All

I read and learend alot on this forum , and the LW´s stragtegy is by far the best method around here
now what i did is added the LW strategy to a way of playing the Red and Black bets with quit good results,

How the system works:
i only use flat betting no progressions , except a good money management like the 6 point divisor plan thnx Lanky


what it does is , tracking the last 4 outcomes back and compare it with the actual outcome when its the same increase the
stage where it is  by 1 and if its the opposite color decrase it  by 1 in the stage where it is the opposite ,
if one stage is more dominant then the others count the colors back by the amount of the stage , and bet on this color,

an example of an RNG game on Mapau casino

     stage 1 | stage 2 | stage 3 | stage 4 |
B              |            |            |            |
R              |            |            |            |           
B              |            |            |            |
R              |            |            |            |<---- make four freespins to collect the data for the fifth spin
B      -1     |     1     |    -1     |    1     |<---- now what if done here is compared the B with the four previous outcomes
B        0    |      0     |     0     |    0     |         if its the same color  B increase by 1 if its the opposite color R decrease by 1
R      -1     |    -1     |     1     |   -1     |
R       0     |    -2     |      0     |    0     |
B      -1    |     -3     |     1     |     1     |
R      -2    |     -2     |     2     |     0     |<---- now what we have here is a dominant stage (stage 3) wich means
R      -1    |     -3     |     3     |     1     | VW       we have to track back the stage number wich is in this case number 3
R       0    |       -2    |      2    |     2     | VW                 in our spin history , and then bet on that color in this case bet on R ,                                                                               
                                                                         the VW stands for Virtual Win and this i do the hole session long 
B       -1   |     -3     |     3     |   1       |VW                       
B        0     |    -4        |  0          |  2          |VL             i always track back the number of the dominant stage.. except stages are equal
B         1     |     -3       |  -1          |   1         |             RW stands for Real Win
B         2     |     -2       |    0        |    0        |
B         3     |     -1       |    1        |    1        |VW
B         4     |      0      |      2      |     2       |VW
B         5     |      1      |      3      |     3       |VW
B         6     |      2      |      4      |     4       |VW
B         7     |      3      |      5      |     5       |VW
R         6     |      2      |      4      |     4       |VL
B         5     |      3      |      5      |     5       |VW
B         6     |      2      |      6      |     6       |
R         5     |      1      |      7      |     5       |
B         4     |      2      |      8      |     4       |VL
B         5     |      1      |      9      |     5       |VW <----- the third time we had a LW pattern with the next L we bet Real on W
B         6     |      2      |      8      |     6       |VW
B         7     |      3      |      9      |     5       |LW
B         8     |      4      |     10      |    6        |RW<----- Real bet won
R         7     |      3      |      9      |     5       |VL
B         6     |      4      |     10      |    6        |RW
R         5     |      5      |      9      |    5        |VL
B        4      |      6      |      8      |    6        |RW
B         5     |      5      |      9      |    5        |VL
R         4     |      4      |     10       |  4          |RL<----- Real bet Lost
B         3     |      5      |     11      |   3         |RL<----- three L´s in a row wich means next time two L´s show i bet on L
B         4     |      4      |     12       |  4          |RW
B         5     |      5      |     11       |  5          |VW
R         4     |      4      |     10       |  6          |VW
R         5     |      3      |      9      |     5         |VL
B         4     |      2      |     10       |   6         |RW
B         5     |      1      |      9      |     7       |VW
B         6     |      2      |      8      |     6       |VL
R         5     |      1      |      7      |     7       |RL<---- two L´s wich means next bet will be on L also iam equal wich means i make free
B         4     |      2      |      8      |     8       |                  spins till i have a dominant stage
R         3     |      3      |      7      |     7       |
B         2     |      4      |      6      |     8       |<---- dominant stage is the 4th wich means if i count back the
R         1     |      5      |      5      |    9        |RW                                 history spins 4 times i end at B but i bet this time on L
R         2     |      4      |      6      |    8        |VW                                      wich means i bet on R
B        1      |      3      |      7      |    7        |VW
B        2      |      2      |      6      |    8        |
B        3      |      3      |      5      |    7        |VW
B        4      |      4      |      6      |    6        |VL
R        3      |      3      |      5      |    5        |
R        4      |      2      |      4      |    4        |
R        5      |      3      |      3      |    3        |
R        6      |      4      |      4      |    2        |RW
R        7      |      5      |      5      |    3        |VW
B        6      |      4      |      4      |    2        |VL
R        5      |      5      |      5      |    3        |RW
B        4      |      6      |      4      |    2        |
R        3      |      7      |      3      |    3        |VL
R        4      |      6      |      4      |    2        |RW
R        5      |      7      |      3      |    3        |VL
R        6      |      8      |      4      |    2        |RW
R        7      |      9      |      5      |    3        |VW
R        8      |     10      |     6       |    4        |VW
B        7      |      9      |      5      |    3        |VL
R        6      |     10      |     6       |    4        |RW
B        5      |     11      |     5       |    3        |VL
B        6      |     10      |    6        |   2         |RW
R        5      |       9     |      7      |     1       |VW
B        4      |      10     |     8       |    0        |VW
B        5      |        9    |      9      |      1      |VW
B        6      |       10     |    8        |     2       |
R        5      |        9    |      7      |      3      |VL
B        4      |       10     |    8        |    4        |RW


with flat betting only this would be a total profit of + 9 units but my advice ist to play it with a good money management like
the 6 point divisor plan

happy testing and ask me everything you want about this system..


cheerz

[VLSroulette]

Breeze88, thanks for the post & sharing the system.

It is excellent you have tweaked the Lw's to suit your own style!

Guys: Every flat betting method with consistent profits deserves attention, this is how you really beat the wheel.

...How many sessions have you tried this "forum baby" (newborn system here  )

Your friend,
Victor

[Breeze88]

Hi Victor

thnx four your comment ,

i tested this 'baby' for 20 sessions now because its actual a new system and ended everytime in profit
or at least I broke even(happened two times after a bad start
because its actual a real baby the testing sessions will grow every day , and I hope some others are trying to test it too
to gather more results .


cheerz

[Lanky]

Hi Breeze.

Excellent Post My Friend.

Great Chat we had the other day Mate.

Well done Buddy.

Lanky.

[Breeze88]

Hey Lanky


nice to see you around , mate

yea nice conversation we had , and i am down to work the things out like you told me to do ,
i keep you informed in wich progress the project is , alot of work , but when its done we have a powerfull tool.

cheerz

[Breeze88]

HI All

just finished another test with these numbers :

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=38


Its a 200 spin long session where I tested  teh 4stage count , with and without the LW strategy , the profits of the non LW play
wich would mean I bet on nearly every spin , are in the H column,

the LW strategy play profit are in the I column and marked in brackets , I played th LW strategy on a easy way after every L I bet on W
nomater if there comes another L , if I played it smartet and bet the LLLs aswell it would be a better ending I guess , but any way I enden up in profit again , with and without LW strategy , but without the LW strategy I had a bad down beat , at the beginning

after 200 spins without LW strategy : 25 units profit
                     with LW strategy     : 12 units profit

again its only flatbetting ,

cheerz

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[Breeze88]

HI All


Tested this nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/at-maltezan/

and this is a good example why a good strategy with the LW system will make your day...

i have three different profit sections in this sheet the first one is just flat betting on every spin ,after 130 spins ended with -2
the second one is using the LWs&nbsp; ,but bets just after a L shows on W., after 130 spins ended with -1
the third one is betting after L shows on W after LL on W and after LLL on L , you can see the results for yourself... after 130 spins +3

just again the LW is a faboulous tool to use..&nbsp; thnx victor


cheerz

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[VLSroulette]

Hi mate, it is all about trying to make sense of the numbers. Numbers per se mean nothing, it is the player who have to encapsulate it at a framework to suit his/her own style. I'm glad you find Lw's useful for you.

Regards.
Victor

[Breeze88]

Hi I know but  it works well that way...!!?!??!!!

, here is another test I run , from wiesbaden 2007 numbers , I finished the first 400 spins from over 4000 spins ,

and yet another profit if you play this way

Results so far after 400 spins :

just bet on nearly every spin  +17 profit ( but that was a bumpy ride)

bet on W after L : +16 units profit (constant)

bet on W after L , Bet on W after LL and bet on L after LLL : +24 profit (constant)


i work on that sheet till its finished and then post the whole 4300 spin session..


cheers
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[SpensX]

I did some test with ur idea and till now is good ,but something confused me .
What u do when the "0" occure-of course is a loss,but do u count az +1 or -1 to all four steages?
And i had sutuation when 1st group was for more than 10 spins around -1,0,1 ,and all other 3 groups were deep bellow zerro like -12,-8,-9.In this case occure 8 loss in a row-WLL0LLLLLW ,will u bet after that zerro.
I thing that this idea have some potential ,but more rules must be added.

[Breeze88]

Hi SpensX


Nice to see someone testing this system baby too , thnx for that now to your questions

when zero shows up  , i dont count it in any stages .
if it showes and its a virtual loss and i bet after  L on W i place a bet that occures to the situation before the zero showed.

the situation you had with first stage hanging arround at -1,0,1 and all others are deep below zero , you could stay in virtual mode
till the stages change into  more stable conditions or you play after LLL on L

i also recomend that if in any stage the counter reaches +50 or -50 reset the counter back to zero.

because the stages are getting not easy to read .

i load a file up from the wiesbaden test i run where you can see that i reset the counter after it reached +50 at stage 2 after 1061 spins
and played on till spin 1200 , iam still running the test till i finnished the 4200 spins..

looks good so far , bet after L  on W = +41 units
bet after L on W after LL on W and after LLL on L = +50 units
bet on nearly every spin  : +7 units

and your reomended to add more rules to the system  , well you can change the way of playing the system to your needs ,
if you have further questions ask , and if you may have some ggod ideas aswell please post them.

till then cheerz

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[SpensX]

Hello Breeze88,
Thanks for the answer.
Last night i did a short test ,but i used High/Low numbers(coz i plan to test it for real in Dublinbet,and this allow me to try with minimum 1.5 Euro covering 19-24,25-30,31-36 with 0.5 E chips.
I followed ur rulles-LW,LLW and LLL -L
Was only 60 spins and ended on +5 units 
Guys ,give some attention to this idea.More brains =more ideas=more tested spins
Breeze88 can u tell me what is ur bigest drawdown in ur tests.
In my small data(200 spins) never goes under -2 units.
So ...any opinions about using Red/Black and High/Low at the same time

[ludo8400]

Hello Breeze88,

I will try to put your system in an Excelfile, automaticly we can make tests for thausands spins.

We can put the results in a graphic and make  the definitif conclusions.

Your idea is still good for further reseach.

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ludo8400

[TwoCatSam]

Breeze

Perhaps before you came along, Victor designed a way to align columns.  I think if you take five minutes to learn it, you will find hitting the comma is much easier than trying to use the vertical pipe to align columns.  Here is the syntax and a little of your chart:


     stage 1 | stage 2 | stage 3 | stage 4 |
B              |            |            |            |
R              |            |            |            |           
B              |            |            |            |
R              |            |            |            |<---- make four freespins to collect the data for the fifth spin
B      -1     |     1     |    -1     |    1     |<---- now what if done here is compared the B with the four previous outcomes
 

[table=,]
EC,Stage 1,Stage 2,Stage 3, Stage 4,Comments
B
R
B
R,,,,,<-----make four free spins......
B,-1,1,-1,1,<-----now what if done here......
B,0,0,0,0
[/table]


Here's how it looks when you type it:

[escape]
[table=,]
EC,Stage 1,Stage 2,Stage 3, Stage 4,Comments
B
R
B
R,,,,,<-----make four free spins......
B,-1,1,-1,1,<-----now what if done here......
B,0,0,0,0
[/table]
[/escape]
You may uses as many commas as you like to further separate your columns. I use 3.


Colors can automatically be done:

[colors]
R
R
B
B
R
B
R
B
[/colors]

Here's how that looks when you create the chart:

[escape]
[colors]
R
R
B
B
R
B
R
B
[/colors]
[/escape]

I am PMing Victor to see the syntax for putting the chart in colors.  I can't do it.

Try the chart anyway.  Makes your work much neater.

Sam

[Breeze88]

HI All

@ SpensX

Good news , from your 60 spins +5 units test , keep it up

i also like this : more brains= more ideas= more tested spins

i tried once a session from worm nolinks://vlsroulette.com/brainstorming/my-system-for-quick-profits-no-progression/
its a 120 spin session with about 12 zero hits   but i like to test systems on sessions from hell

and this session is the one with the biggest draw downs i had as you can see below

flatbetting  Start BK: 100 unit
  bet simply on every trigger , END BK : 94 units        <-biggest draw down -8 units
bet after L on W                  END BK : 103 units      <-biggest draw down -2 units
bet after L on W and after LLL on L End BK : 99 units <-biggest draw down -5 units

@ludo8400

Hi mate if you could do this , that would be awesome
because writeing it all by hand is kinda hard and boreing , so if you could code a nice excel program that would make my day [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]




@Sam

Hey Sam

thnx for your advice , i try to make the charts like you showed me , thnx for that mate


So[smiley=3/beerbros.gif] too all

[Breeze88]

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