Marven's Dozen System + His Playing Strategies

[Marven]

Hello dear friends,

I am new to the forum and I would like to make a small first contribution to this lovely place.

Here is a single dozen system that I came up with last night:

You look at the last 5 spun numbers and translate them into dozens.

Example:
Numbers: 32, 4, 17, 25, 30
translates into:
Dozens: 3, 1, 2, 3, 3

Then you bet on the dominating dozen, meaning the dozen that hit 3 or more times within these 5 spins. That is our trigger.

NOTE: When there is a zero within the last 5 spins, then we look at the last 6 spins (instead of 5). When there are 2 zeros, then we look at the last 7 spins, and so on.
If no dozen is dominating (example: 2,1,2,3,3) then we continue spinning until there is one. Or you can just wait for a new formation with no zero in it. (It's all the same really)

If we lose the bet, we look again at the last 5 spins (including the last number that hit) and we do the same again.

We use a progression of 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9.
My stop loss is at the 7th step of the progression (that is 9).
I accept the -26u loss (which I can easily take) and enter my Recovery Mode. (see my playing strategies)

Pretty simple and straight forward.
Feel free to test and tweak.

All the best,
Marven

UPDATE:

Ok, since I have noticed some of you have actually used this little system, I have tweaked it a bit for those who want to use it for some fun short term winnings during a visit to the casino or so.

Here it is:
The progression is simply: 1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21
We wait for our trigger, then we bet using the first 3 steps of the progression 1-1-2
If we still lose, we stop betting and wait for another trigger.
When a new trigger shows, we continue the progressions with the next 3 steps 3-4-6
If we still lose, we stop betting and wait for another trigger.
When a new trigger shows, we continue the progressions with the next 3 steps 9-14-21

That's it.

If all three attacks fail, we lose 61 units.
For this to happen, the 3 dozens must be alternating without showing any trends during all the three attacks, which happens very rarely.

This is for short-term/fun purposes only.

Best of luck,
Marven

[Marven]

As for my playing strategies, they're still evolving and constantly changing, so nothing is set on concrete.

What I usually do is I divide my session's target between the methods of the mode I'm playing (Using the most effective methods for Production, whilst the more safe and slow ones for Recovery).

For instance, if my target for the session is 10 units, and my production mode has system A, system B, and system C, then I aim for 4u using system A, 3u using system B, and 3u using system C.
The same goes for the Recovery Mode. I never play one system for more than 5u as a target.
This increases my chances because as Victor said the wheel "must synchronize the losing sequence with the time I am playing in order to get me."

My goal is to become a professional player, so I really put high importance on discipline, clear and reasonable goals and solid capitalization and money management.

Best regards to you all,
Marven

[Worm]

Hi Marven.
Your system seems very fun to play, though i think i prefer the calm 1-1-1-2 or simular..
Will test this if its ok?

Take care
/Worm

[Worm]

I like playing this with Dozen and columns..let me know what u think. Flat or very mild prog

[JHM]

Marven,

Play a few sets of 24 sessions and let me know what the results were. You can't have 1 loss per session, it would kill all your winnings.

I did a quick test on my dozen records and it failed. But keep throwing up ideas. I haven't found that winning formula myself too.

[Marven]

Thank you for the replies mates.


Worm, this system is very new mate and still needs lots of tweaking (I should even have posted this in the brainstorming section). My initial idea was to find a way to play a waker single dozen with the best results possible.

I'm still not concerned about the progression yet. What I'm concerned about at the moment is how much this is winning.


JHM, you are right mate. I tested this a bit further and it failed. That first session was a bit lucky (they always are, aren't they).

I also trying this approach:
We look at only the last 3 spun dozens, and bet the dominating one.
Went good at first (never went above the 6th step of the progression) but eventually failed.

Again, my goal is: Finding a way to play an active/waker single dozen with the best results possible, using a limited progression to protect the BR (but hitting the loss limit must be a rare event so as not to kill the winnings).

Better said than done though.
Will keep experimenting.

All the best,
Marven

[hoper35]

Best of luck, Marven.  I like playing the single dozen/column, or equivalent, too.  I usually play a sleeping dozen, playing multiple tables at the same time.  Maybe a waking 12 would be better?


Ron.

[hermes]

Marven, try the progression for one dozen/column bet: Win +1 unit, 3 loses -1 unit. The progression makes sometimes miracles during betting one D/C.
If zero comes in your 5 formation don't bet, start a new formation of 5 after the zero spin ends, even I would look for 6 spins formation rather.
Cheers Hermes

[Natural9]

Playing sleepers can be dangerous you are better off playing hot numbers/dozens as dozens can sleep for a long time

[Marven]

Best of luck, Marven.  I like playing the single dozen/column, or equivalent, too.  I usually play a sleeping dozen, playing multiple tables at the same time.  Maybe a waking 12 would be better?


Ron.

Thanks mate!
You are right, IMO playing a waker would be better. Still, it is not very uncommon for a dozen to wake up for one spin and then go back to sleep and make us hit the progression's loss limit.

I'm currently trying a few more approaches to this. Will surely post anything worth sharing.

Marven, try the progression for one dozen/column bet: Win +1 unit, 3 loses -1 unit. The progression makes sometimes miracles during betting one D/C.
If zero comes in your 5 formation don't bet, start a new formation of 5 after the zero spin ends, even I would look for 6 spins formation rather.
Cheers Hermes

Thank you Hermes (your name is of great significance to me btw ).
Will bear what you said in mind.

Playing sleepers can be dangerous you are better off playing hot numbers/dozens as dozens can sleep for a long time

I agree with you there mate. I never play sleepers myself.

All the best to all of you,
Marven

[2nd12forlife]

thanks for the system marven! ive been looking for a good dozen system for a while, ill be going to the casino in a few weeks and ill test it out . 

[trylobit]

Hi!

Thanks for that system.
It works quite well, even on RNG!
With small 'player intelligence' it does the job...

Take care.

[Marven]

thanks for the system marven! ive been looking for a good dozen system for a while, ill be going to the casino in a few weeks and ill test it out . 

Hi mate,

Check out the tweak I have made, you might like using that.
Good luck and have fun.

Hi!

Thanks for that system.
It works quite well, even on RNG!
With small 'player intelligence' it does the job...

Take care.

Hi trylobit,

I would strongly recommend against RNG's my friend. Stay away from those things.
Online live dealers and/or brick and mortar casinos are the safe way to go.

Also check out the tweak I have made to this system. You might find it fun to play.

Best of luck and have fun! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Regards,
Marven

[pgtmedu]

I think we don't need bet selection. We bet on a dozen, say doz 1, and use that progression:
1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21.
If we lose all these 9 steps, we recover with this progression:
2-2-4-6-8-12-18-28-42.
If we continue to lose, we recover with this progression:
5-5-10-15-20-30-45-70-105

[Marven]

We bet on a dozen, say doz 1, and use that progression:
1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21.
If we lose all these 9 steps, we recover with this progression:
2-2-4-6-8-12-18-28-42.
If we continue to lose, we recover with this progression:
5-5-10-15-20-30-45-70-105

Nice idea to be incorporated with the system (I.e. by playing those 3 progressions on separate 3 steps each as explained) for those who have the bankroll needed and want the system to recover for itself.

I think we don't need bet selection.

Absolutely mate, it makes no difference in terms of odds if we play with or without a bet selection.

HOWEVER, there is something that Victor once said in this regard and it made perfect sense to me. He said that bet selection does have merit in the way that it allows us to track a certain event and its 'win & loss ratio', so that we can take advantage of those moments were it hits equal to or above the average, and avoid or bet less during the moments were it misses above the expected.

With this bet selection for example, we can track how this system is doing in virtual:
If streaks are happening and the dozens are repeating themselves a lot, it means the conditions are in our favor to attack.
If the dozens are coming out in a rather regular fashion and without enough repeats, it indicates that we better not bet.

The golden rule is: Do not play like a robot. Do not play automatically betting on every spin and every trigger.

Regards,
Marven

[Marven]

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