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An ethics question.......and a poll!

Started by TwoCatSam, January 18, 2009, 12:56:45 PM

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Is it right to use his superstition to get him to use your system if you honestly feel he would befefit from playing the system?

Yes
7 (38.9%)
No
11 (61.1%)

Total Members Voted: 12

TwoCatSam

The premise:

You know a person is going to begin the study of roulette.  You feel you have a winning system that you want him to try.  You honestly feel that he could do a lot worse than play your system and probably not much better.  You also know he has a superstition.

The question:  Since he is going to play anyway regardless of what you do and since you feel he would benefit from playing your system over others, would it be right or wrong for you to use his superstition to get him to try your system over others?  Of course, you are not making any money from him in any way. 

Sam

TwoCatSam

Carlitos

I will gladly give him/her the system.  The question is stated in the poll. 

All......

Please read the premise and question carefully.  You may change your vote if you wish.


Sam

Boo_Ray

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 18, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
The premise:

You know a person is going to begin the study of roulette.  You feel you have a winning system that you want him to try.  You honestly feel that he could do a lot worse than play your system and probably not much better.  You also know he has a superstition.

The question:  Since he is going to play anyway regardless of what you do and since you feel he would benefit from playing your system over others, would it be right or wrong for you to use his superstition to get him to try your system over others?  Of course, you are not making any money from him in any way. 

Sam

I don't know what superstition means but I think it is noot good to say to someone that you have a winner and tell him to play it..

it would be o.k if He would ask you to give him your sys...

I think if you claim that you gave him a winner and he loses money that is a bit resposible thing for you..

TwoCatSam

Boo_Ray

Superstition--an unfounded belief.

After a dice leaves the table, get new ones or a 7 will come.
Always set the dice exactly the same.
Always blow on the dice.
Always wear the same socks as long as your team is winning.
When red appears five spins in a row, black is more likely to occur.

So this fellow's superstition is one I can use to guide him to a system I feel  (FEEL is the operative word) would be in his best interest.  You're saying I should not do it?  Just let him play the Martingale?

Sam

Boo_Ray

Well if he plays martingale atleast you can tell him what NOT to do  ;D ;D ;D

Davey-Jones

Isn't using someone's superstitions to their advantage one of the primary ways con men operate? Boy, I'd love to know who answered yes.

TwoCatSam

Davey

Your use of the pronoun "their" is totally unclear.  Does "their" refer to the person who has the superstition of to other person? 

Can you give me an example whereby using a superstition to the advantage of the owner of the superstition would be wrong or somehow profitable to the second person in the equation?

That's the trouble with pronouns.  Sometimes you never know who their antecedent is.

Sam

Number Six

I believe he means the person who has the system, not the superstitious one.

Of course, it's not right. It's brainwashing  :D

poxet pool

Roulette is a great teacher in the school of hard knocks...You'll feel better when he comes to.. u than u to him ..master...

Davey-Jones

Suppose I designed a roulette system based solely on astrology. Seeing as I am a system seller/scammer and don't have a soul I have no problem seeking the location of highest suckers per capita. Would I be wise to sell my system in Utah? Probably not. How bout outside a church on sunday? Or would I be better off selling it in Asian community where gambling and astrology are rooted in culture.

No matter how you look at it you are taking advantage of someone's weakness for your own personal gain. It's a dink move.

I understand you are not posing the question from a selling point of view. You are however manipulating him/her. People who are looking to learn should be guided in the right direction so they are able tothink for themselves, not to be manipulated for your own selfish means.

Davey-Jones

Why stop at roulette? If I know a guy who likes meeting new people should I pressure him to become a Jehovah's Witness? How about become a Vegan because he is lactose intolerant? Maybe become a Communist because he prefers betting red!

shadownumber

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 18, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
The premise:

You know a person is going to begin the study of roulette.  You feel you have a winning system that you want him to try.  You honestly feel that he could do a lot worse than play your system and probably not much better.  You also know he has a superstition.

The question:  Since he is going to play anyway regardless of what you do and since you feel he would benefit from playing your system over others, would it be right or wrong for you to use his superstition to get him to try your system over others?  Of course, you are not making any money from him in any way. 

Sam

I believe everything in the question is pretty rotten. Should never "use" anyone's superstition for anything. Should ignore them or try and help them by teaching them "how" to think properly.

I have said it many times. In my view, giving anyone a system is an injustice. At the end of the day it didn't teach them a thing. The fact that one would "give" away a system proves that it's a loser. That's all I have to say. I know pretty well the thought patterns of most posters of this forum. I contemplate how some of you must feel inside about posting meaningless garbage. The pole clearly shows the percentage of trash that is here. Do you really need to ask such a question? What kind of person is going to give you the conformation you're looking for two cat?

TwoCatSam


Lanky

@shadownumber.

Yeah well one thing for sure is that I have never known Sam to use more then one Name on the Forum.

Nor has He been banned and reappeared as someone else.

Man some of You guys must really think We are too Dumb to see some of these things.

Your now a Guest once again.

Lanky.


poxet pool

Yeah..and alot of people forget casinos use cameras..well i'm puttin on the gameface and off to the cashino..best of luck to all tinte..or today or tomorrow...whatever...

poxet pool

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