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[Learning thread] The Ulysses Pseudo Random Number Generator Roulette System

Started by Ulysses, February 01, 2009, 11:24:28 AM

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Ulysses

This system is tested for online roulette RNG. It does not use progression.

The system is based completely on the numerals 0 1 2 3.



System Numbers = 0 1 2 3 10 20 30 11 22 33 12 21 13 31 23 32



The 16 numbers bet does not change, the system numbers are bet on single every spin. The system is fully tested on playtech software based casinos only.

VLSroulette

Hello Ulysses, thanks for posting.

May I make a suggestion: have start / stop points! It is my experience numerical combinations (no matter how elaborated) will come and go in cycles.

I suggest you to enter once one of your numbers appear and set stop point considering this formula: 36 /divided by/ <amount of numbers> (numerical cycle).

In this particular case, 36 / 16 = 2.25 spins. Rounded down = 2 spins per cycle.

Which means don't get stubborn, know after 1 missed cycle it could be the start of any lenght of dispersion for your numerical group. Don't get stuck at "it must hit", make pauses.

Also bear in mind in most cases you should get a hit within 3 cycles. Being your 16-number group's cycle 2.25 spins, then 2.25 x 3 = 6,75 rounded up = you should get a hit within 7 spins most times, further than that, just let it go.

Kind regards.
Victor




Ulysses

Hello Victor
What you wrote about cycles when playing numerical combinations is very true and thanks for the formula. I have currently been playing a thousand spins per day. Began with 2000 units and managed a large gain over 3000 units, the next run it stabalised with no gains. 3rd run it was reduced back to the beginning. 4th run gained over 3000. Now at 6th day/6th run has increased to nearly 4000 units. But there is the real danger it may decline now and continue that on a descent. So I am taking your advice hopefully keep my gains and push them futher up.

Cheers Ulysses

VLSroulette

Ulyses,

I do know there is a timeline for every instance there can be one attached to.

Simply meaning to everything you can attach numerical event as coming from a random source, there is the possibility to create a registry or trail.

One can attach Dealers a timeline for the numbers they spin, also to players for the numbers they bet, wheels can be attached a timeline too for the numbers spun regardless of dealer changes.
They all should comply with statistical averages for random sources. Dealers on their own timeline are expected to spin 50% of series of 1 element on even chances, numbers 1 time per 37 spins average, etc.
Same as expected from roulette wheels regardless of dealer changes, as well as players to experiment on their own betting registries.

What I find curious is statistics allows for deviations from the norm, they are even expected. Meaning a dealer can actually happen to spin more blacks than reds over his whole lifetime or a wheel can be naturally biased towards some numbers (without needing to be physically imperfect, just because of -like Garcia pelayo would put- soft limits due to natural randomness).

Translated practically if you can find one of these naturally biased registries you can flat bet your way to profits. Of course, you need to be certain of this and need to achieve statistical significance* first, and even though being considered just a randomness quirk, statistics allows it to happen "naturally": the larger the compound samples, the larger the deviations; and deviations can last even for millions of spins (ask manucher and his losing system which came out positive at 600.000.000 -six hunder million- spins).

If you are planning on flat betting on what you think is a biased stream do find your way to some statistical certainty you are onto something. If you are just betting blindly on some numbers and find yourself up, do the "half peak" teachnique, keep on playing as usual never capping winnings (just in case you actually stumbled into something) but lock profits and never give back more than 50% on what you already got.

P.s.: "A statistically significant difference" simply means there is statistical evidence that there is a difference; it does not mean the difference is necessarily large, important, or significant in the common meaning of the word.
- Wikipedia.




Some say the best way to really win at the casino is to never come back after winning once, as to denying the possibility to lose, the casino can't simply win back what you don't wager, hence the half-peak aproach.

Kind regards,
Victor

Sundowner

Hi guys,

Victor why don't you tell him that rng is wrong and he should only play on live wheel?

I've heard a lot of people here latelly talking about RNG testing-playing etc..
All of you should know that it's worthless and  waste of time.

Cheers
Sundowner.

Kingspin

You can win on rng but you have to take a lot smaller profits. I agree with you sundowner , rng  is real dicey at best. >:(

Proofreaders2000

Hello Uly.  Glad to see your new RNG system and I'm glad it's profitable for you.
I remember your 2,5 and 4 and 7 approach.  It did quite well for a while.  I admire your courage for playing RNG roulette.

Do you think this system will work on other RNGs?

hermes

Many say that on RNG numbers repeats more often than on real wheels. I don't know because I don't play synthetic games but if that is true than we could exploit it by marking 37 spins and that playing 16 most coming numbers for next 37 spin cycle - flat. At least we will not bet on sleepers.
Cheers Hermes

Ulysses

Hello all

I seem to have jumped the gun with this system post. It has continued to decline and where I was positive that the upwards trend/bias stream would be there further on, it didn't happen. Why I did not follow the advice some suggested is just one of those things. With a number combination system like this you require a better strategy as Victor pointed out using statistical analysis. I will stick with rng though as scooby pointed out (hello scoob) a system I played a while back and still continue to use. In answer to the live wheels questions I might be tempted one day but contrary to this rng hiccup :-[, most of the other methods I use are reliable and safe-ish. Apologies to all. Victor if you want to delete this system please do. I wouldn't want any one else to make the same mistake.
Uly   

VLSroulette

QuoteVictor if you want to delete this system please do. I wouldn't want any one else to make the same mistake.

Hello Ulysses.

I'm moving this to our Roulette & Gambling framework section, precisely because there's a lesson to learn. It shouldn't just be deleted, it may serve others: if not as a full system, as a reflexive post.




By the way, thanks Ulyses for sharing what you thought was working.

Bliss sumarized it right, we should always give the benefit of the doubt to those who share when they believe in their systems. Better approach than others sharing only IF they know it won't work! :o Not unheard of!




Your posting is greatly appreciated, we all learn from our mistakes; may this post help others learn too.

Best regards and keep 'em coming. (your systems & posts).

Your friend,
Victor

MattyMattz

Quote from: Kingspin on February 01, 2009, 09:52:54 PM
You can win on rng but you have to take a lot smaller profits. I agree with you sundowner , rng  is real dicey at best. >:(

I used to think the same way, but as of late, I believe with an honest RNG, you can win - big and/or small.

Matt

Colin

MATTY where can 1 find an online casino thatoffer honest RNG numbers please.thank you .Colin

Spike

RNG's have a different kind of random than a real wheel does. They are quite unpredictable and unbeatable, IMO. You may find a way to beat them for awhile, then all of a sudden it won't work anymore and never works again. Quite frustrating.

MattyMattz

Quote from: Colin on February 02, 2009, 08:27:40 PM
MATTY where can 1 find an online casino thatoffer honest RNG numbers please.thank you .Colin

You gotta do your research Colin.  You can start by checking out nolinks.casinomeister.com

They've got a ton of good info.  After that you need to examine the auditing process with regards to the RNG generator. 

Matt

Proofreaders2000

Remember that guy who won a million + a while back.  He said the number kept coming up, so he played it.  I think it was an RNG wheel. 

Who knows, maybe there are system numbers that "unlock the RNG door."
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From article "Jason H., a Sussex businessman who won the astounding amount of £1,426,000 while playing roulette in a famous online casino site.

Mr. H. is a regular online player and this time the lucky combination for him was 23. The winner started his bets as usual and it turned out he was in a good run, since he won over and over again with the same number, against all odds.

Once he had a good amount of profits, Mr. H decided it was time to take a big risk and wagered his entire balance around his very lucky number. He could not believe his eyes as he saw the number come up and make him the winner of a six-figure amount.

However, he decided not to stop there and follow the same tactic he used all night, only to see number 23 show up again and again. Finally, Mr. H's payout came to a total of £1,426,000, which made him call the casino to make sure it wasn't just a computer mistake.

Luckily for him, Mr. H's winnings were as real as the fact that he is now a millionaire thanks to online roulette.

Source: Article originally published in MediaGambling

Proofreaders2000

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