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xman1970

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 21, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
I've just found my passport & booked my flight.....


Catch you in about 12 hours Ken  :thumbsup:


Keep the beer cold & girls warm....  :D ;D :D


Unfortunately unlike your last thread this has a less than 99% chance of happening..... :( :(

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xman1970

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 21, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
From your post count I'd take it you're here for more than just leeching information. You're exchanging knowledge and from what I've seen you've made some friends as well...


To be honest there isn't one thread I have started that is a system / way of playing.... :-[


My threads are usually questions about how B&M casino operate that kinda stuff.


As for my posts they are normally asking questions & encouraging people & some testing.


My ONLY field of knowledge is a bit of experience with on-line casinos.


So, yes I admit I do try to glean information from this forum. After all I think that's one of the things it's here for....


& as for a few friends, well hopefully  :-[ & to be fair I DO pay them a lot..... :D ;D :D

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 21, 2009, 07:33:52 PM

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 21, 2009, 09:34:32 PM
>>A word of friendly advice.  You are bordering on insulting quite a few people on this forum.>>>

I agree with this. Progressions are the crack cocaine of gambling, you'll never convince people they don't work. Ever try and convince a crack addict to give up his high? Good luck.

If you don't have a good bet selection, and almost nobody does, the progression becomes the bet selection. Switch back and forth between them, ride it out, go home a winner. But the problem is that in the end the variance will kill you dead. I read lots of books about pro gamblers and by pro gamblers and never have I seen one of them say they owe everything to a mathematical progression.

Why is that? Because progressions are a long term loser of and by themselves. But its something everybody has to find out on their own, like going cold turkey off of heroin..

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 22, 2009, 01:53:19 AM

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 04:46:53 AM
@idiamin1, im afraid to say the guys are right here, dont worry though we are all the same when we first start out in the game, i did a simple example a while back of how the maths works for e/c's and dozens/columns here,

http://vlsroulette.com/the-dark-side/a-demonstration-of-why-systems-lose/

it will show you that waiting and progressing doesnt really improve your chances of winning at all, but it can give a very convincing illusion to a new player. if you read the darkside section you will find alot of information in there that may help your game.

dont be disheartened by the information though, systems can work, but to make a system work it has to be well planned and you will need to use 'gamblers intelligence' to make informed decisions based on the situation. you may also need to practice spotting dispertions so you can ride the bad times and profit in the good times, what you look for depends on the system you are using. never use progressions, bet minimum when you are hitting bad dispertions and bet big when your on a winning streak but always flatbet. just keep in mind that no system will stand on its own, and casino games are not easy to win, roulette being the hardest to win of all.

hope this helps :)

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 07:33:16 AM
bet minimum when you are hitting bad dispersions and bet big when your on a winning streak 

I call that positive progression :) and I agree that positive proggression can help you alot :)

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 08:33:00 AM
I call that positive progression :) and I agree that positive proggression can help you alot :)


I agree with you max :thumbsup:

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
@idiamin1, im afraid to say the guys are right here, dont worry though we are all the same when we first start out in the game, I did a simple example a while back of how the maths works for e/c's and dozens/columns here,

http://vlsroulette.com/the-dark-side/a-demonstration-of-why-systems-lose/

it will show you that waiting and progressing doesn't really improve your chances of winning at all, but it can give a very convincing illusion to a new player. if you read the darkside section you will find alot of information in there that may help your game.

dont be disheartened by the information though, systems can work, but to make a system work it has to be well planned and you will need to use 'gamblers intelligence' to make informed decisions based on the situation. you may also need to practice spotting dispersions so you can ride the bad times and profit in the good times, what you look for depends on the system you are using. never use progressions, bet minimum when you are hitting bad dispersions and bet big when your on a winning streak but always flatbet. just keep in mind that no system will stand on its own, and casino games are not easy to win, roulette being the hardest to win of all.

I endorse this. :thumbsup:

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
I am playing a postive progression system.works well

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Re: Why you shouldn't use progressions...
February 23, 2009, 02:43:10 PM
Much appreciated guys, thanks for taking the time to help, i really want to take some money off the casinos as does everyone else i presume, so again thanks for all your help and suggestions. 

Iv been using progressions with a bot and havent lost yet, so gonna make a wee bit more and then cash out i think, ill keep my eye on this board as seems to be some interesting stuff happening

keep up the good work guys its well appreciated

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Mr.Alarian,

I am playing proggres.11th. year now,full time,and lost only once on the system I was playing 10 years continuosly.Lately playing diff. system,also progression,which sometime loses,but more wins,mind you,every night except sunday,therefore can not agree with you about your theory of progression.Tell me any other way to win on roulette.iboba 8)

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Mr.Alarian,

I am playing proggres.11th. year now,full time,and lost only once on the system I was playing 10 years continuosly.Lately playing diff. system,also progression,which sometime loses,but more wins,mind you,every night except sunday,therefore can not agree with you about your theory of progression.Tell me any other way to win on roulette.iboba 8)

Hello Iboba,

Biased wheels or perhaps VB? ::)

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Hello Iboba,

Biased wheels or perhaps VB? ::)

Not my friend,real wheel,in real live casino.Sorry that you could not catch the system i gave you............................................iboba

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Not my friend,real wheel,in real live casino.Sorry that you could not catch the system I gave you............................................iboba

No Iboba,I got it however my tests didn't go well enough for me to convince me to play for real.will email you