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Punto Banco winning with Flatbet +0,1%

Started by RCEC, February 25, 2009, 07:23:44 AM

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RCEC

The OC Betvoyager offers a special Version with no Houseegde at Baccarrat

Tie pays 1 to 9,48
Banker takes only 2,75% permission
Player adds 2,82%

If you are playing all 4lines on Banker with 99 units each and Player with 100 units each you get the Egde over the House ~ +0,1 %

You can test this real or in funmodus

cu
RCEC


See_Jerek

Quote from: RCEC on February 25, 2009, 07:23:44 AM
The OC Betvoyager offers a special Version with no Houseegde at Baccarrat

Tie pays 1 to 9,48
Banker takes only 2,75% permission
Player adds 2,82%

If you are playing all 4lines on Banker with 99 units each and Player with 100 units each you get the Egde over the House ~ +0,1 %

You can test this real or in funmodus

cu
RCEC

Live or RNG?


roules

Looks like RNG. I remember someone swearing blind that these guys don't cheat with their RNGs but it's hard to trust what you can't see.

RCEC

@all

Hi Folks!

After a few Test´s I found that it is better to play only on Punto(Player)
In the Internet I found something about the math´s behind

We have

The following chart shows the probabilities of events:

                Banker         Player         Tie
                 Wins           Wins
----------------------------------------------------
  infinite     45.8428%       44.6147%      9.5426%
   8-deck      45.8597%       44.6247%      9.5156%
   6-deck      45.8653%       44.6276%      9.5069%
   4-deck      45.8761%       44.6340%      9.4898%
   2-deck      45.9073%       44.6508%      9.4419%
   1-deck      45.9624%       44.6760%      9.3615%
----------------------------------------------------

Let´s say we have a RNG that shuffles every time infinite
Bet on Player
We lost when Banker occour
0,458428*-1 = -0,458428
We win when Player occour + 2,82% Bonus
0,446147*1,0282 = 0,4587283454

So we have +0,4587283454-0,458428=0,0003003454 a slithly positive edge for the player

That´s all but now it is to find a good moneymanagment because the limits are so boring low 1 to 200

Kind Regards
RCEC



Breeze88

HI RCEC


Nice Math  ;) ... i have a question because i saw you also posted on a german forum board.. so my question is does somewhere in austria
or near austria are some Baccarat pits ? or in a CCC ?


thnx

cheerz

RCEC

@breeze 88

Here in Austria you can play a short form of bacarrat called punto banco
in most of the 12 casinos ( licensed from the gouverment )

Limits

minimum 20€
maximum 6000€

but still 5% fee

CU
RCEC


RCEC

actually i make a test with 1000 trials
betting on all 4 boxes on punto
50€ units

270 trials
54000 bet units
486,67 net profit untill now

continued.....


roules

Quote from: roules on February 25, 2009, 09:43:13 AM
Looks like RNG. I remember someone swearing blind that these guys don't cheat with their RNGs but it's hard to trust what you can't see.

This was for roulette BTW.

Was this playing on fun mode or did you make a deposit with real $ RCEC?

Had a look at this and it does look like there is a way to beat this. But two things come to mind:
1. Is it possible to make a very small but enough profit to put a side bet on tie? I know tie bets aren't normally recommended though.
2. They will be literally giving money away if it's possible to work around this, which is hard to believe. This brings the integrity of the RNG back into question.

See_Jerek

Quote from: RCEC on February 25, 2009, 12:42:18 PM
actually I make a test with 1000 trials
betting on all 4 boxes on punto
50€ units

270 trials
54000 bet units
486,67 net profit untill now

continued.....



That is pretty impressive results.Did you play in fun mode?Or are you doing virtual bets on paper for your trials?

See_Jerek

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