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[RPro] Sector System

Started by VLSroulette, February 25, 2009, 10:11:38 PM

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[RPro] Sector System

You can download RPro's Sector System system from here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=300

Feel free to use this thread to add further study to it :thumbsup:
Victor


TwoCatSam

Christopher

OK, here's what I don't understand.  I just printed your system and I read this:  "You will record the first 12 spins without betting."

Reading on, I come to this:  "For example, if the numbers come out as follows; 27, 23, 00, 16, 18, 33, your chart would read as follows: 1, 2, 0, 2,
1, 1. You will notice that a number from group 3 has not shown in 6 spins. This is your chance to start betting."

These two quotes seem to be contradictory as you cannot follow the rules spelled out in both, i.e., you either don't bet for 12 spins or you begin betting after a section has not shown for 6 spins. 

Could you elaborate on this?

Sam

RPro75

Yes, I am sorry that is a bit confusing isn't it?  What I meant was that you record 12 spins before placing any bets.  The reason for this is to see if a particular sector is comes out 8 or more times in those 12 spins.  This would indicate a possible bias on the wheel.  I definitely should have explained that more clearly on the paper.  If that should happen, I would advise watching another 12 spins to see if it continues.  If not, I would then begin recording spins and wait for a sector to "not show" for 6 spins.  Thank you for pointing that out to me.  That's a great observation.  Although more time consuming, I think the player would rather know if there was a bias then play a system which is based on a non-biased wheel.  After all, Rome wasn't built in a day, right?  :thumbsup:

VLSroulette

QuoteAfter all, Rome wasn't built in a day, right?

And neither did the forum! ;) Let's study your approaches further! Can you as the creator please start the hardcore study by posting one of your sessions here. (i.e. numbers and comments about how to face them as they apprear! -that sure will get the guys up  :thumbsup:).

Regards.

RPro75

The 144 spin trial that is included in the system was done on an automated roulette wheel at Casino Arizona, Indian Bend, in Scottsdale, Arizona.  Here are the basics of this system.  The numbers in the trial are 1, 2, 3, or 0.  Those do not represent numbers on the roulette wheel but sectors where the ball landed, of which there are three.  There is Group 1, Group 2, and Group 3.  For example, spin number 1 in the trial reads "3", that means a number from group 3 hit.  You do not have to record the actual number, just the sector where the ball landed.  You are looking for a sector to "sleep" for 6 consecutive spins, then you will bet on that sector using the progression chart provided.  This means you are betting on all 12 numbers in the sector using the staking system provided.  In order for this progression to completely fail, a sector would have to sleep for 12 spins consecutively, which did not happen in my 144 spin trial.  The longest a sector slept was 10 spins in that trial.  The beauty of this system is that if you want to play a little more aggressively, you can wait for a sector to sleep for only 4 spins and then start betting.  If you want to play it safe, you can wait for 8 spins and bet.  Keep in mind though, the longer you wait, the less betting opportunities you will have.  I usually try to play four "games" in each session.  A game consists of 36 spins.  So, four games is 144 spins.  The game that I used as a trial produced a profit of 242 units as you can see in the system notes.  It took about 3 hours.  I do not play RNG at all so the only opportunity I have to test this system is at three casinos close to my home in Arizona, all of which have automated roulette wheels.  There is a real wheel, just no croupier and your bets are placed via a touch screen.  I am planning a trip to Vegas soon, where I hope I can test this system at a real live table.  I play this system about once every three trips to the casino, with an 80% win ratio.  I hope this answers some questions.  If anyone has Roulette Extreme and wants to test it, I would really welcome that.  I am really anxious to know if it works for others as well as it works for me.  Good luck all,

Chris

rjl

Hi,

Tested this one in European wheel, with following groups:

A - 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13
B - 36, 11, 30, 8, 23, 10, 5, 24, 16, 33, 1, 20
C - 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26

It was tested on 4662 spins from live table dublinbet

Best resuts were, to start betting after 4 spins missing the group.

+900 units betting with a progression of 4 times (1, 1, 2, 3)

+852 units betting with a progression of 5 times (1, 1, 2, 3, 4)


Would like to see more people testing also...


Cheers,

Rjl

RPro75

Those are great results!  Thank you for testing.  I'm glad to see that you modified it to a European wheel.  I am sure that it will produce better results on a European wheel due to there being one less zero and less of a house edge.  Keep the results coming in.  I  took a trip to my favorite Indian casino last night and each unit was worth $.25 and I ended up +187 units after 3 games (108 spins).  That is a win of $46.75 in about 2 hours.  I would have stayed longer but worked a long day yesterday and was very tired.  Still, $23 per hour isn't bad!

ozshabs

Quote from: rjl on March 01, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
Hi,

Tested this one in European wheel, with following groups:

A - 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13
B - 36, 11, 30, 8, 23, 10, 5, 24, 16, 33, 1, 20
C - 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26

It was tested on 4662 spins from live table dublinbet

Best resuts were, to start betting after 4 spins missing the group.

+900 units betting with a progression of 4 times (1, 1, 2, 3)

+852 units betting with a progression of 5 times (1, 1, 2, 3, 4)


Would like to see more people testing also...


Cheers,

Rjl

Hi Rjl

If a group, for eg B, comes for 4 consecutive times, which group should we bet (A or C)?

ozshabs

RPro75

Quote from: ozshabs on March 02, 2009, 01:57:04 AM


Hi Rjl

If a group, for eg B, comes for 4 consecutive times, which group should we bet (A or C)?

ozshabs

If it were me, I'd wait more spins until A or C came then bet the other. 

Ex.  B comes four times, next spin B again, no bet, next spin A comes, your bet would be C.

rjl

In the test I made, it was in Excell, and I didn't check every spin, bets are automaticly triggered by missing 4 times, this means that the results shown consider betting on every group that didn't hit 4 times.
In the question you made, where the group B comes for 4 consecutive times, it started betting on both groups A and C.
Maybe this isn't the best choice, it needs further tests.


Cheers,

Rjl

Rquest09

Quote from: rjl on March 01, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
Hi,

Tested this one in European wheel, with following groups:

A - 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13
B - 36, 11, 30, 8, 23, 10, 5, 24, 16, 33, 1, 20
C - 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26

It was tested on 4662 spins from live table dublinbet

Best resuts were, to start betting after 4 spins missing the group.

+900 units betting with a progression of 4 times (1, 1, 2, 3)

+852 units betting with a progression of 5 times (1, 1, 2, 3, 4)


Would like to see more people testing also...


Cheers,

Rjl

Hi Rjl,

Don't suppose i could have those live db numbers from you could i?

Many thanks,

Rquest

ced82

Quote from: rjl on March 01, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
Hi,

Tested this one in European wheel, with following groups:

A - 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2, 25, 17, 34, 6, 27, 13
B - 36, 11, 30, 8, 23, 10, 5, 24, 16, 33, 1, 20
C - 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26

It was tested on 4662 spins from live table dublinbet

Best resuts were, to start betting after 4 spins missing the group.

+900 units betting with a progression of 4 times (1, 1, 2, 3)

+852 units betting with a progression of 5 times (1, 1, 2, 3, 4)


Would like to see more people testing also...


Cheers,

Rjl

I like dublinbet so I looked many times by curiosity if this method could be good with your groups

I didn't do a serious test like you but I observed the wheel many times.
I saw the group A not arrive while 18 spins and it was the first time I connected today. Fortunately, I didn't play.
I'm not an expert in wheel but I think this method is too much based on random (even if it talks about sectors).
If a bad run happens, we loose 200euros and all that to win near 20 euros.

Don't take bad what I'm saying, it's just my opinion.
Good luck for others who want to try

switcher

Quote from: ced82 on March 02, 2009, 05:35:49 PM
I like dublinbet so I looked many times by curiosity if this method could be good with your groups

I didn't do a serious test like you but I observed the wheel many times.
I saw the group A not arrive while 18 spins and it was the first time I connected today. Fortunately, I didn't play.
I'm not an expert in wheel but I think this method is too much based on random (even if it talks about sectors).
If a bad run happens, we lose 200euros and all that to win near 20 euros.

Don't take bad what I'm saying, it's just my opinion.
Good luck for others who want to try

Most methods will have a bad run at some time, but if you combine good money management with a system like this then the chances of coming out on top are good. You could set a profit/loss of 100/200 per day.

I would like to do some more tests on dublinbet to see how going with the wheel compares with the sleeping sectors. So if Sector A hits 2 out of the last 3 spins then bet it for the next 4 spins. Sectors will often repeat and this may even be better than betting for the sleeping sector on a live wheel.

Rjl is this possible for you to check this with the same numbers you had in excel?

RPro75

Quote from: ced82 on March 02, 2009, 05:35:49 PM
I like dublinbet so I looked many times by curiosity if this method could be good with your groups

I didn't do a serious test like you but I observed the wheel many times.
I saw the group A not arrive while 18 spins and it was the first time I connected today. Fortunately, I didn't play.
I'm not an expert in wheel but I think this method is too much based on random (even if it talks about sectors).
If a bad run happens, we lose 200euros and all that to win near 20 euros.

Don't take bad what I'm saying, it's just my opinion.
Good luck for others who want to try

I have had this happen to me too, sometimes a sector sleeps for 14,15+ spins and it definitely causes a serious drawdown.  I am hoping that someone could figure out a way to get around this.  I know there is way I just need some help with it.  Thanks for all of your input guys.  I really appreciate the help and have no problem at all with constructive criticism.  That is what is going to give us a winning system.  Good luck all.

Chris

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: RPro75 on March 02, 2009, 09:15:47 PM


I have had this happen to me too, sometimes a sector sleeps for 14,15+ spins and it definitely causes a serious drawdown.  I am hoping that someone could figure out a way to get around this.

Here's an idea, how about a limit of 100 spins/day tracking, whether you bet on a sector or not?
Also, when playing a similar method, I noticed that the most success is with at least 4 distinct revolutions of the ball before it lands.--When you see dealers consistently spin less than 4, don't play this system.

And *light bulb moment*  Start over tracking every 15 minutes.

Proofreaders2000

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