finding the hot sections of the wheel.

[MATTJONO]

I have used others ideas and knowlage and ov course my own ideas to see if I can find a way of consistantly tracking the hot sections of the wheel.

I have the wheel layout going across.
32,15,19,4,---35,3,26,0


when a number appears we put a x under the number and the 2 numbers to the left and the numbers to the right so for every spin we have to mark the our board with 5 Xs.

these are a real set of roulette numbers.--- 32 spins in we need to put the first 5 Xs in. so..

32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,
x   x  x                                                                                                                           x   x                                                
then 31 span in and after that 3 pan in... the table would now look like this.
32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,
x   x   x                                                                              x   x  x  x  x                   x  x  x  x  x
                                                                                                                                     x  x

so after these 24 numbers,                              
32
31
3
5
15
25
21
24
6
36
30
24
35
21
13
20
28
36
17
1
22
11
31
4


your table would look like this after the above 24 numbers appeared.
32   x   x         
15   x   x   x      
19   x   x   x   x   x
4     x   x   x   x   
21   x   x   x   x   x
2     x   x   x   x   x
25   x   x   x   x   
17   x   x   x   x   
34   x   x   x   x   
6     x   x   x      
27   x   x   x   x   
13   x   x   x   x   x
36   x   x   x   x   x
11   x   x   x   x   x
30   x   x   x   x   
8    x   x         
23   x   x         
10   x   x   x      
5     x   x   x      
24   x   x   x      
16   x   x   x   x   
33   x   x   x   x   
1     x   x         
20   x   x   x   x   
14   x   x   x   x   
31   x   x   x   x   
9     x   x   x      
22   x   x   x      
18   x            
29   x   x         
7     x            
28   x   x         
12   x   x   x      
35   x   x   x      
3     x   x         
26   x   x   x      
0     x   x   x      



so after 24 spins we have a picture of the hot sections of the wheel just looking at this we see.

I ALSO CARRED ON UNTIL 50 SPINS TO SEE THE PICTURE ATFER 50 SPINS. AND IT LOOKED LIKE THIS.
32   x   x   x   x                  
15   x   x   x   x                  
19   x   x   x   x   x   x   x         
4     x   x   x   x   x   x            
21   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x      
2     x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x      
25   x   x   x   x                  
17   x   x   x   x   x   x   x         
34   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
6    x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
27   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
13   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
36   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
11   x   x   x   x   x   x   x         
30   x   x   x   x                  
8    x   x   x                     
23   x   x   x                     
10   x   x   x   x                  
5    x   x   x   x   x               
24   x   x   x   x   x               
16   x   x   x   x   x   x   x         
33   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
1     x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x      
20   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
14   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
31   x   x   x   x   x   x   x         
9     x   x   x   x   x   x            
22   x   x   x   x   x               
18   x   x   x   x                  
29   x   x   x   x   x   x            
7     x   x   x   x                  
28   x   x   x   x                  
12   x   x   x   x   x               
35   x   x   x   x   x               
3     x   x   x   x                  
26   x   x   x   x   x               
0     x   x   x   x   x               



MATTJONO

[MATTJONO]

just need to find the best way of betting on this so ill try a thew mehods.


mattjono

[VLSroulette]

Hello Matt,

Do you plan on working with "hot sections of the day" as in a single session OR "hot sections of the wheel" as in Bias wheel play?

It matters!

By the way, there are experts here like Herb who now a lot about biased wheel attack.

Regards.

[TwoCatSam]

Playing the "Devil's Advocate" here.......

Why is it a person tests a system through 5,000 spins (1,000 actual bets placed) and someone will say that it is not enough for a conclusiion.

Why it is a person who "thinks" he sees a bias can watch a wheel for a hundred spins or less and totally believe in his "bias"?

I think Matt is looking at geographical clustering about the wheel and not bias.  If so, he has several "biases".

Sam

[winkel]

Hi Mattjono,

there is something wrong with your Idea

If the 1 hits 3 times and the 24 hits three times you will have this picture

10 xxx     
05 xxx     
24 xxx       
16 xxxxxx     
33 xxxxxx   
01 xxx         
20 xxx   
14 xxx 

what the hell is hot with 16 and 33 unhit at all?

br
winkel

[Herb]

Intead of this:

10 xxx     
05 xxx     
24 xxx       
16 xxxxxx     
33 xxxxxx   
01 xxx         
20 xxx   
14 xxx

Do it like this:


10 123   
05 123                     
24 123       
16 123456   
33 123456     this is a better way of tracking your numbers     
01 123         
20 123   
14 123

Instead of writing an X, write a number.  This will enable you to look and immediately know how many times each number has hit.
Also, track far more spins.

I also don't understand why you would mark numbers that have not hit.

Good Luck.

[MATTJONO]

hi all sorry for the confusion,


I was seeing if I by placing a mark on the numbers eva side of numbers spun I place a mark on the number and 2 eva side of it.

then after lets say 12 spins we will have this picture.
3
18
2
20
2
34
22
21
32
32
1
13


32   1   2      
15   1   2      
19   1   2   3   
4     1   2   3   
21   1   2   3   
2     1   2   3   
25   1   2   3   4
17   1   2   3   
34   1         
6     1   2      
27   1   2      
13   1         
36   1         
11   1         
30            
8            
23            
10            
5            
24            
16   1         
33   1   2      
1   1   2      
20   1   2      
14   1   2      
31   1   2      
9     1   2      
22   1   2      
18   1   2      
29   1   2      
7     1         
28            
12   1         
35   1         
3     1          
26   1   2   3   
0     1   2   3   



the bold sections we could say might take the lead and be the hot sections of the wheel I have the following spins but I havent seen the pattern yet but my gess is the bold sections will keep the lead for a while and this is how I would like to find hot sections of the wheel.
I am not suggest any bias just that randomness will preduce some hotter sections of the wheel than others so maybe my ideas will help and maybe they wont.

just thoughts.

P.S ill finish this session above off in the morning its 01:30am hear in manchester england so im off to bed.

mattjono

[MATTJONO]

Hi Mattjono,

there is something wrong with your Idea

If the 1 hits 3 times and the 24 hits three times you will have this picture

10 xxx     
05 xxx     
24 xxx       
16 xxxxxx     
33 xxxxxx   
01 xxx         
20 xxx   
14 xxx 

what the hell is hot with 16 and 33 unhit at all?

br
winkel

thats what i am trying to see 16 and 33 are unhit however they still could be ''due'' as there are near numbers that have hit.
i find it hard to share my thoughts sorry all.

its seem after marking that they are in the lead -- its just something new.

could be nothing but you never know i could of found the HOLY GRAIL       


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

hi all sorry for the confusion,


I was seeing if I by placing a mark on the numbers eva side of numbers spun I place a mark on the number and 2 eva side of it.

then after lets say 12 spins we will have this picture.
3
18
2
20
2
34
22
21
32
32
1
13


32   1   2      
15   1   2      
19   1   2   3   
4     1   2   3   
21   1   2   3   
2     1   2   3   
25   1   2   3   4
17   1   2   3   
34   1         
6     1   2      
27   1   2      
13   1         
36   1         
11   1         
30            
8            
23            
10            
5            
24            
16   1         
33   1   2      
1   1   2      
20   1   2      
14   1   2      
31   1   2      
9     1   2      
22   1   2      
18   1   2      
29   1   2      
7     1         
28            
12   1         
35   1         
3     1          
26   1   2   3   
0     1   2   3   



the bold sections we could say might take the lead and be the hot sections of the wheel I have the following spins but I havent seen the pattern yet but my gess is the bold sections will keep the lead for a while and this is how I would like to find hot sections of the wheel.
I am not suggest any bias just that randomness will preduce some hotter sections of the wheel than others so maybe my ideas will help and maybe they wont.

just thoughts.

P.S ill finish this session above off in the morning its 01:30am hear in manchester england so im off to bed.

mattjono

this is what the pattern looked like after 50 spins.
32   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
15   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   
19   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
4     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   11
21   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
2     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
25   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8         
17   1   2   3   4   5                  
34   1                              
6     1   2                           
27   1   2   3                        
13   1   2                           
36   1   2   3   4                     
11   1   2   3   4                     
30   1   2   3   4   5   6               
8     1   2   3   4   5   6               
23   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
10   1   2   3   4   5   6   7            
5     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8         
24   1   2   3   4   5                  
16   1   2   3   4   5   6   7            
33   1   2   3   4   5   6               
1     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
20   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8         
14   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9      
31   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8         
9     1   2   3   4   5   6   7            
22   1   2   3   4   5                  
18   1   2   3   4   5                  
29   1   2   3   4   5   6               
7     1   2   3   4   5   6               
28   1   2   3   4   5                  
12   1   2   3   4   5                  
35   1   2   3   4   5   6   7            
3     1   2   3   4   5   6   7            
26   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8         
0     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   


the numbers where
3
18
2
20
2
34
22
21
32
32
1
13
23
12
14
0
22
26
15
23
10
0
20
12
9
0
4
21
0
1
23
2
2
16
5
14
5
30
15
29
21
14
1
21
30
5
28
28
0
36



mattjono

[MATTJONO]

from the above pattern after 12 spins I highlighted in bold the section of the weel I thought would take the lead.

the numbers I had in bold where 26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,  a 10 number sector and 33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29, a 9 number sector.

flatbetting these numbers for the next 38spins would of produced this result.

3         
18         
2         
20         
2         
34         
22         
21         
32         
32         
1         
13         
23   L   -19   -19
12   L   -19   -38
14   W   17   -21
0     W   17   -4
22   W   17   13
26   W   17   30
15   W   17   47
23   L   -19   28
10   L   -19   9
0     W   17   26
20   W   17   43
12   L   -19   24
9     W   17   41
0     W   17   58
4     W   17   75
21   W   17   92
0     W   17   109
1     W   17   126
23   L   -19   107
2     W   17   124
2     W   17   141
16   L   -19   122
5     L   -19   103
14   W   17   120
5     L   -19   101
30   L   -19   82
15   W   17   99
29   W   17   116
21   W   17   133
14   W   17   150
1     W   17   167
21   W   17   184
30   L   -19   165
5     L   -19   146
28   L   -19   127
28   L   -19   108
0     W   17   125
36   L   -19   106


+106 units

I do understand that this doesn't rearly tell us a thing however flat betting 19 numbers from picking hot sections of the wheel could help us have an advantage.



mattjono

[MATTJONO]

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