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Natural9

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Terrible Two's
March 25, 2009, 03:26:59 AM
I have a question  regarding baccarat or any EC game

Would the terrible twos be the main archilles heal of most systems

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Re: Terrible Two's
March 26, 2009, 08:12:38 AM

Natural 9 i am not sure i am following you with this.

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Re: Terrible Two's
March 27, 2009, 05:47:39 PM
Natural 9 I am not sure I am following you with this.

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Twos are like PPBBPPBBPPBB they can be hard to play against

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Re: Terrible Two's
March 29, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Yes i know but there is so many other ways to play...

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 21, 2009, 07:00:39 PM
Just remember that a run of two IS a streak as is single chop is also a streak. the use of a virtual/paper bet is necessary when the shoe is CHAOTIC and displays no reason or rhyme.

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 22, 2009, 12:37:38 PM
I have a question  regarding baccarat or any EC game

Would the terrible twos be the main archilles heal of most systems



Natural9,

Good point... for those who bet for chops, and/or (continuing) streaks.



P.S.  I hope you-know-who doesn't pick up on this.

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 22, 2009, 01:17:25 PM
I have a question  regarding baccarat or any EC game

Would the terrible twos be the main archilles heal of most systems

Just play Baccarat like I showed in the Mirror-game on Roulette.

That will guarantee that you play the mirrors PPBB or BBPP
with Fibonacci a double-win is guaranteed also

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 22, 2009, 10:12:56 PM
Just play Baccarat like I showed in the Mirror-game on Roulette.

That will guarantee that you play the mirrors PPBB or BBPP
with Fibonacci a double-win is guaranteed also

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Can you show me the link to it Winkel

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 23, 2009, 01:30:35 PM
Can you show me the link to it Winkel

http://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-mirror-game-for-even-chances/msg33744/#msg33744

The tags in that topic are broken unfortunately, but this sheet is quite readable

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 23, 2009, 07:05:38 PM


Natural9,

Good point... for those who bet for chops, and/or (continuing) streaks.



P.S.  I hope you-know-who doesn't pick up on this.



The basic idea with those "terrible twos" is that betting for them is the combination of betting for and against the last outcome... betting for chop combined with betting for streak, or in other words, between the two betting approaches.

This is really for those who, rightly or wrongly, still intuitively feel that things will either repeat, or change to even out.  Then both camps are satisfied.

I already put my "situational rules" for baccarat at the thread http://baccaratforums.com/t6106/ , copied below... but it looks like I'll have to now decide what's called for with also the "twos" between.  (Will return to this thread then.)

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I prefer to skip many times bets rather chasing my losing bets to recover . this will escalate the amount. for example if you play ftl and you only bet every appearance of 3 series and bet the opposite.

targeting small goals every shoe and you stop at 40 deals and move to other shoe after getting 2 wins or 3 . by doing this you can use every and kind MM positive or negative you like depending of your timing of the shoe you played.

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This echos my own conclusions about situational betting for baccarat. From the (definitive) counting data for P-B permutations and/or card-combinations, when a streak of 4 or 5, then begin betting opposite; likewise for the chops, except bet on a continuance. (Playing only by P-B of course, makes this only situational-betting advice. Very-watered down.)

For the novice, only infrequently betting small amounts is, again, the best MM-option. This has more to do with the expected (natural) variance of even near-random events likely crossing its mean curve several times before hopelessly dipping (if ever, over casual play.)

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Re: Terrible Two's
September 23, 2009, 10:17:19 PM
Maybe something like... if it comes PPBB, then bet for BBPP?  In a cross-over manner, which tries for the additional run, while at some point allowing for the switch.

I don't have time to look at Winkel's method(s), but is this anything like how he would play this?