VLS' Approach to ATILA + BET SELECTIONS

[admin]

We'll see what happens TOMORROW.

I'll go grab wiesbaden actuals from Xtreme, pick the file with the most spins for the day on it and there ya go... will run it using your numbers, my Ideal-value-play framework and the ATILA money management.

[admin]

Hey buddy, please be aware ATILA is not the holy grail which never loses. It does.

The quest is to find the point where you win MORE than you lose; whatever the methodology used.

For instance, I just did this session using numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. No particular reason at all. Just because of the "Any 9-number group will do" part, and I used the first nine. Check it out:



As you can see, it was in the red -190. The bank was the 500-unit one given by roulette xtreme. So a bank  of 700 units would have been needed to lift up this particular session, but the reward is I see +250 as achievable!

Yep. +250 is not that insane with the ATILA... As a matter of fact, I will pick it as win goal for our sessions.

I think we could go for a 25% return per session using a 1000-unit bank. Let's do -say- 2 weeks of testing and then compute how many sessions were won and if the win ratio covers the losses.

Regards,
Victor

[Wildcard]

[smiley=2/rambo.gif] Sounds like a plan !

I can live with 25 %.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

I like the way it seems to hold up so well, even after a poor start. I will not pop open the campagne just yet, because i´ve had my hopes up too many times until now, but be sure i have plenty of trust in you.

[highlight]Good Luck to US. [/highlight]    ...     By "us" i mean us all.   [smiley=smiley.gif]

[MattyMattz]

Good luck guys, I'll be watching and cheering you on!  
I've been using the ATILA betting plan for a little while now and have had good success with it.  I play it with a 9 number sector with different stop losses and win goals set in place.  

Cheers,
Matt

[pauljwpa]

hi guys good luck with the test

couple of questions

how do you come up with the 9 numbers

and how do you bet them

[admin]

Ok paul, I think is a wonderful opportunity to start coding my software to grab Roulette Xtreme images for nolinks://KVideas.com , because I want to give as many snapshots as possible from the bets! (plus Ronjo wants it too).

The main idea of the testing is to be educational, this way you will see how *I* bet them.

how do you come up with the 9 numbers

Option A: Pick ANY group of nine numbers.
Option B: Pick a sector of the wheel you think is "due", "hot" or will hit according to dealer signature, pocket count, etc.

The users of "whatever the selection" approach ( me & Atila included ) believe that no matter what you choose, it will come in clumps or "waves". Then the mission for the atila money management is to stretch that bankroll in order to have a shot of being there for the "positive wave" or concentration of hits.

and how do you bet them

Atila Disk-sector players tend to start rising the units from the center to the outside. i.e. if target/prediction/hot number is "0", the 9-number sector is: 12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4



Their ATILA line looks like:
111121111
111221111
111222111
112222111
112222211
122222211
122222221
222222221
222222222
222232222
222332222
222333222
...to:
333343333

To be "picture clear", like this:


For [highlight]layout[/highlight] bettors, I recommend as exposed in the original thread:

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
2.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1
2.2.2.2.1.1.1.1.1
2.2.2.2.2.1.1.1.1
2.2.2.2.2.2.1.1.1
2.2.2.2.2.2.1.1.1
2.2.2.2.2.2.2.1.1
2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.1
2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2
3.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2
...

How to place the bets at the layout? Easy and hassle-free: starting from the lower number to the higher.

To be super-clear, I made this pic today:


Hope it helps in your comprehension.
(I think I better post the pics at the original thread too).

May this help as many people as possible.

p.s. check nolinks://kvideas.com/ <- There's some "Trivia"!

Best regards from your friend in the wheel.
Victor

[roger]

Holy cow it works!  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] i only played 3 sessions with it at dublin.bet in practice mode but had big winning everytime. I tweaked it a lite bit at my needs ,since i'me a dozen man a marked the dozens for 37 times and wich dozen had the most hits, i played the 9 nummbers on.
A simple system with great result thats what i like, i keep testing this one for a couple of days.  

[pauljwpa]

thanks for the demo victor on how it all works  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

going to start testing

ok guys got to get ready for my work now  [smiley=bath.gif]

see ya tomorrow  

[admin]

Well guys, today it is. I'll let any of you have the honor and post spielbank numbers for 2008-01-04, the file with the most spins/lines and place it to:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=actuals

So we can start the testing and the graph posting!

[Moccoman]

Hi All,

I had tested this strategy with my own spins and was satisfied that I would do ok playing live. So I played the sector bet last night (4 either side of zero). Very quickly accumulated 70 ($5) units profit but then continued and was met with winning only 6 times in 47 bets. Even the dealer change couldn't hit that sector! Unfortunately dropped 670 units and had progressed to the sixes of the ladder.

The problem at this point is that I needed to win more than 3 times in a row ( probably 4 in 7 spins) to get me out of the hole I was in. After I left the table I continued to monitor the results. 3 spins later there was a 3 in a row but then went back to sleep for the next 6 spins before I left.

As such there really needs to be a stop loss point. This I believe should be a a stage whereby no more than 2 wins are required in (say) 4 spins to get back on track.

I still think the strategy has merit and I will no doubt try it again but will definitely do some tweaking.

Regards
Mocco

[smiley=cry.gif]

[Toothpaste]

I was trying it out yesterday. Once went down 600 units and i was there for a long time, its hard cuz like you said Moccoman, you need few consecutive hits. Ok, they dont need to be consecutive, but need to be soon. Gradually, i recovered and ended losing streak with +70 units. When Victor posts graphs, we will see what stop loss shud be.

P.S.: if you need help with it, msg me, altho im noob to that program

[admin]

Moccoman, Welcome!

The ATILA isn't meant to be played continuously, that is my observation.

I do it like this: Pick your numbers beforehand, then once they hit, play it using their "ideal value" + 1 spin. If there is no hit, then stop betting till a new number of your group hits and you repeat the ideal-value play + 1 spin strategy, recursively.

In our case, we use it on 9 numbers so ideal value = 4 + 1 = hold the bet for 5 spins, if no hit, then make a pause. I strongly believe events come in cycles.

As to the stop-win = +250
Bankroll ( and stop loss ) = 1000 units. Enough room from it to fluctuate most times (which is the idea).

Best regards and again welcome to the crew Mocco.
Victor

[roger]

The ATILA isn't meant to be played continuously, that is my observation.

But how do you feel about switching sectors(9 nummbers), when you see another sector gets 'hot'?

[admin]

But how do you feel about switching sectors(9 numbers), when you see another sector gets 'hot'?

Never tried that Roger. Any case, I would make the pause after the Ideal-value + 1. Continuous-play can be a very biting b***h! (Exactly what casino wants, be there and get the full impact of dispersion as it comes; no concatenations needed for them, you just stand there and take it spin after spin... sweet... for them!!!)



I just finished posting the graph for the first testing @ the testing zone:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1199742639

A new set of numbers anyone for next test please!!! [smiley=smiley.gif]

[MattyMattz]

Here you go Vic:

7,8,13,24,25,30,31,32,33

[MattyMattz]

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