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VLS' Approach to ATILA + BET SELECTIONS

Started by admin, November 27, 2007, 01:46:37 AM

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admin

So this is the system's creators "notepad" section.

I am going to start posting my ATILA + BET SELECTIONS here so they stay registered.

- 111 Observation: It says in 3 cycles of 37 spins the regular happening is to have every number shown except for 2 or 3 numbers which as the long-term sleepers for the day ( 37 spin in a cycle x 3 = 111 observation). So after the second cycle, eligible numbers are the unhit ones. Ideally if it goes past second cycle, it should be left alone -although I have used the long-sleeping ones with good results (37 x 2 = Spin #74 as signal).

- The Hole. Two numbers in the disk separated by 1 space. The space is the hole = the eligible number to back.

- Waker disk zone. This belongs to my "WI" framework. Wait for a 37-spin cycle to end. Pick the 9-number section which least hits. If two sections have the same hits then use the one with more unhit numbers. If two sections have both the same hits + the same amount of sleepers, just let the wheel pick one for you and attack the first one which get a hit. /// The ideal-value for a 9-number area is 4 spins, but I go generous and allow 1 more spin when playing the ATILA Money Management on it.




This ATILA branch of study has gotten me fascinated. When the graphs start being posted at the testing section you'll want to practice with them  ;)

Here is a "111 observation" testing graph using Wiesbaden actuals:

admin

QuoteThe ideal-value for a 9-number area is 4 spins, but I go generous and allow 1 more spin when playing the ATILA Money Management on it.

This means I hold the bet for 5 spins AFTER the section gets a hit.

Ideal-value 4 spins + 1 extra spin = 5.

Just wanted to clear that.

Tomorrow is another day and can post more charts. With the new results I was telling Lanky at the chat I'm now an ATILA junkie!

If it continues like this, then the forum family will have a great benefit, since it seems to win more than it loses in okenty of my Wiesbaden/Bet365/Local casino(s) actuals. Time and tests will tell.
Victor

xman1970

Good Work Victor.... 8-)

Looking forward to future installments....



Cheers.... [smiley=beer.gif]

admin

Ste, the graphs keep looking fine.

For the first time I think it is OK to go looking for 50% or even a 100% return per session. This is awesome and will certainly reflect in my lifestyle.




I need to set very clear rules. This can be coded for a mechanical system.

Bet selection is mechanic.
Progression is mechanic.
Reset points are mehanic.

Maybe a minimalistic human intervention which can be summarized in when to make a reset even if it isn't exactly a reset point balance (for instance if it is a specially hard session when it is coming up/down/up/down, then one should cut when reaching a new "up").

Also hard-exit points have been already set, among them if 50% of the bank is lost and it never was even +1 over buy-in, then it is a good time to cut the session. No need to lose it all.

Maybe following the game in virtual to see if one would have lost it all past the 50% or if it recoups to buy-in point, then re-hook the session.




Of course, whatever the final set of rules, it is going to be posted for the benefit of the forum family and the advancement in the study of this wonderful game.

At least in my opinion, this got me already "hooked". Barely no thinking, high-return (+50%)... yes. Paradise so far!

Victor

xman1970

Being totally selfish Victor, How could I adapt this to the 4 number bet selection I'm testing with Mr.J system ?


As ALWAYS many  [smiley=dankk2.gif] for any help you may have the time to give....  ;)


xman1970

WoW Victor.... :o


As the say in the Sound Of Music that graph is "Climb Every Mountain"  [smiley=lolk.gif]


As ALWAYS excellent work my son  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

admin

Keeping using this space as a "notepad":

As a safety-brake, when using the 111 observation, enter virtual play after twice the ideal-value without a hit. i.e. 9 numbers = 4 spins as ideal, then after 8 spins with no wins, make a pause till the virtual hit.




I want to be there for every period of concentration of hits, and surf as much dispersion as possible -with the limited bankroll- in a better effort to "be there" when the swing reverses.




I think the wheel has a timeline, so to me virtual-play does make a difference because by having less longer strings of consecutive misses it shortens the deficit and requires less concentration of hits to get back on profits.




The main enemy is dispersion of hits when using any type of progression.

When flat betting you mostly care about hit ratio between wins and losses, when playing progressions you must also care about the ORDER of the hits/wins and the length of the string of losses.

I have no shame in admitting I am a progressional player, and when the hits aren't coming, better to switch to virtual-play.

It is never known how deep current negative swing will go... so better to force roiulette to make odds things to lose, instead of placing yourself in a silver plate in continuous-play for only 1 negative swing to blow the bankroll away.

Virtual-play is a very valuable in my framework.

One of the advantages a player has: choosing when to bet, how much to bet.
Victor

admin

QuoteHow could I adapt this to the 4 number bet selection I'm testing with Mr.J system?

Are you strickly waiting for 1 hit and you cut your selection? Do you think you could  keep on using a square AFTER it has had a hit?

And most important, is the flow of hits a good one? I ask this because the main idea of the atila is to work as an stepladder progression, where you may need a flow of hits to cancel losses by previous misses.

This is the tradeoff with soft progressions. Your bets rise slowly, but the "recovery power" requires to have a set of close hits, opposed to the HIT N' WIN, where 1 single hit makes you be in profit automatically.

What can you say to this mate?

xman1970

Thanks for getting back to me Victor  ;)

I totally understand the difference you are saying when using ATILA, next time I test I play as I am BUT takes notes of when the section has won after the 1st win, when at the moment I would stop....


Hopefully you can then advise if it's enough hits  :-?

Hope that made sense... :-[


as ALWAYS

cheers... [smiley=beer.gif]

pauljwpa

hi victor so i wait for 30 spins bet on the nine numbers least shown

if this not right

could you explain it again please

explain it like your talking to an idiot

thanks. [smiley=grin.gif]

pauljwpa

hi guys is anyone still using or testing this system

if so how are you getting on  [smiley=smiley.gif]

hope to hear from you soon thanks.

Wildcard

QuoteWhen the graphs start being posted at the testing section you'll want to practice with them

pauljwpa >> I´m also interested and eagerly waiting for details, but it is taking longer than i thought.

Hope Victor could find the time to shed some light over this  [smiley=cheesy.gif]

admin

ATILA said ANY 9-number selection would do the trick.

Now, what do you say about us ( you and me ) making the graphs with the tests this way:

- You provide today a 9-number selection with random numbers from 0 to 36.
- I test it using the ATILA with tomorrows actuals from wiesbaden.
- We will always use the archive with most numbers spun for the day.
- We repeat the process day after day, with a new 9-number set from you for next day's actuals.

Do we have business?  ;)

Regards,
Victor

Wildcard

We´re in business, mate !  [smiley=3/bow.gif]

Remember to send me my share  [smiley=happy.gif]

So, let´s get ready to rumble... ( you do the hard work, beautiful deal for me, LMAO )

From the top of my head to the tip of my fingers, to the virtual world, here you have them:

[size=18] 0, 8, 12, 15, 16, 22, 31, 33 and 36 [/size]

Now, go rock the house down >>  [smiley=3/wos_musik2.gif]

 And bring me a great graph. Cheers.

Wildcard

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