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Hurried Splits Test - Part 1 (Primitive)

Started by Number Six, April 08, 2009, 07:40:56 PM

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Number Six

Hurried Splits Test - Part 1 (Primitive)

STAGE ONE

This is a quick test applying the Law to a splits system with a single primitive formula. The expected averages are: 12 splits to arrive in an 18-spin interval. The formula used here is based on "Apex Theory", which will be discussed later...but essentially it is the foundation of a formula that hunts for opportunities to bet on numbers that have already hit once in the interval.  The key gist is that there will be streaks of consecutive different splits (same for when playing straight up bets), and at some point that streak should be interrupted...when one of the splits repeats (this is the event we're aiming to catch).

The streak ascends as the spin count advances, forming an upward slope.  Eventually the ascent will conclude, as though reaching the summit of a mountain, and an apex appears.  The apex occurs at, and symbolises, the first moment that one of the splits has repeated.  At the other side of the apex is a descending slope, which gets steeper as more and more splits arrive for a second time.  Finally the slope evens out, and that stage signifies the end of the full-length 18-spin interval.  The ascending slope begins to develop again immediately, creating a new apex and descent...the process recurs infinitely.

Obviously there is no way of predicting when the apex will take shape...that is why it's Apex Theory and not Apex Fact.  But we can use some probability and common sense to hazard a guess.

Onwards...

The primitive formula for this splits system is: track the wheel outcomes until six different splits have hit in a row, then bet them!  On a win, stop and track again.  On a loss, rebet and add the winning split.  So the first bet will be 6 splits, the second bet 7 splits, the third bet 8 splits and so on until a winner is hit.  A traditional negative progression of 1, 1, 2, 4, 9 is required.  The zero is discounted.

The test shows a real case of tracking and attacking.  As only one primitive formula is active and the system is aiming to catch solo winners in each interval, the attack will create a conventional model. 

The spin outcomes are taken one at a time from random.org.

(T) = tracking
(b) = bet

[table=~]
Spin~ Out~ Split~ Bet~ Res~ Net~ Notes
1~ 23~ 20:23~ (T)~-~-
2~27~27:30~(T)~-~-~
3~2~2:5~(T)~-~-~
4~28~25:28~(T)~-~-~
5~21~21:24~(T)~-~-~
6~0~-~(T)~-~-~
7~26~26:29~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
8~30~27:30~(b) 2:5, 20:23, 21:24, 25:28, 26:29, 27:30~W~+12~End of interval   
9~22~19:22~(T)~-~-~
10~21~21:24~(T)~-~-~
11~3~3:6~(T)~-~-~
12~2~2:5~(T)~-~-~
13~36~33:36~(T)~-~-~
14~7~7:10~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
15~3~3:6~(b) 2:5, 3:6, 7:10, 19:22, 21:24, 33:36~W~+24~End of interval
16~30~27:30~(T)~-~-~
17~22~19:22~(T)~-~-~
18~13~13:16~(T)~-~-~
19~0~-~(T)~-~-~
20~10~7:10~(T)~-~-~
21~31~31:34~(T)~-~-~
22~26~26:29~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
23~13~13:16~(b) 7:10, 13:16, 19:22, 26:29, 27:30, 31:34~W~+36~End of interval
24~0~-~(T)~-~-~
25~27~27:30~(T)~-~-~
26~18~15:18~(T)~-~-~
27~0~-~(T)~-~-~
28~15~15:18~(T) 15:18 split repeated, ends/begins tracking~-~-~
29~2~2:5~(T)~-~-~
30~10~7:10~(T)~-~-~
31~0~-~(T)~-~-~
32~27~27:30~(T)~-~-~
33~22~19:22~(T)~-~-~
34~11~8:11~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
35~5~2:5~(b) 2:5, 7:10, 8:11, 15:18, 19:22, 27:30~W~+48~End of interval   
36~3~3:6~(T)~-~-~
37~29~26:29~(T)~-~-~
38~7~7:10~(T)~-~-~
39~19~19:22~(T)~-~-~
40~25~25:28~(T)~-~-~
41~0~-~(T)~-~-~
42~4~1:4~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
43~6~3:6~(b) 1:4, 3:6, 7:10, 19:22, 25:28, 26:29~W~+60~End of interval
44~18~15:18~(T)~-~-~
45~7~7:10~(T)~-~-~
46~20~20:23~(T)~-~-~
47~14~14:17~(T)~-~-~
48~32~32:35~(T)~-~-~
49~9~9:12~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
50~20~20:23~(b) 7:10, 9:12, 14:17, 15:18, 20:23, 32:35~W~+72~End of interval
51~9~9:12~(T)~-~-~
52~36~33:36~(T)~-~-~
53~3~3:6~(T)~-~-~
54~36~33:36~(T) 33:36 split repeated, ends/begins tracking~-~-~
55~33~33:36~(T) 33:36 split repeated, ends/begins tracking~-~-~
56~27~27:30~(T)~-~-~
57~0~-~(T)~-~-~
58~12~9:12~(T)~-~-~
59~32~32:35~(T)~-~-~
60~22~19:22~(T)~-~-~
61~26~26:29~(T) Opportunity:~-~-~
62~9~9:12~(b) 9:12, 19:22, 26:29, 27:30, 32:35, 33:36~W~+84~End of interval
[/table]

[table=>]
Primitive Summary
Spins>62
Outlay>-42 units
Gain>126 units
Net>+84 units
Opportunities exposed>7
Bets placed>7
1st spin hit rate>100%
Apexes missed>3
[/table]

This can be considered a perfect session, as the progression was never needed for chasing any deficit (truly, the numbers are real!).  The formula, although it could carry on winning exponentially, won't stand up on its own.  It would crash for an ample loss if all 18 splits arrived in 18 spins.  So we can disregard this system as unviable, and instead use it as a sort of reference for delving deeper into advanced system schematics.

Those of you with eagle eyes may see discrepancies regarding tracking and attacks.   

An example: on spin 24 we began tracking after a win.  The split 15:18 arrived on spin 26, and then a second time on spin 28.  The split hit twice within six spins, so there was no betting opportunity.  We had to abandon tracking and begin again.  Spin 28 (and the 15:18 split) represents the endpoint of a failed tracking period, and also marks the start of a new one...rather like an intersection.

Technically, after a win, tracking for the next betting opportunity should commence from the spin the win was achieved on...the win is the intersection of a successful attack and a fresh interval.  However, testing has proved that it's more prudent to wait until the result of the following spin to resume tracking.

There are ways this system can be made safer and more efficient, by improving the formula, and some ideas will be covered in the threads tracking and attacking, and formulas defined.     

For now we can leave this test, but we'll surely come back to the results later.


TwoCatSam

Number Six

Mighty interesting idea. 

Thanks for posting it and thanks for that excellent chart!

Sam

hoper35

Very, very interesting!!

I applied the splits method to my last losing session.  I would have won 750 units instead of losing 260 (150 spins).

I'll have to check some of my winning sessions.

Ron.

MAX

Number Six

Nicely explained and very interesting approach .  :thumbsup:

Thanks
Max

Number Six

Hi Ron,

Have you read the System Theory thread...what you are describing in your post is the pis aller policy  ;D

Pis aller means last resort...is it a fallback option to enforce when things are going badly. But as all my ideas are generally based on betting straight up, how effective the pis aller would be for splits is debatable. It may not always be an option, which leaves the system exposed to the house edge.

Max,

Stay tuned for part two, when we'll substitute the primitive formula for a dynamic one and see what difference it makes/what trouble we get into. We'll use the results from this test as a comparison and also do a second test. I hope to put in a little thread about the different types of formulas and what they do/how they attack before we proceed.

6

The Spiders Kiss

Hi Number 6
A very interesting piece
Thank you
TSK

hoper35

It also works on my last two long, winning, sessions.  Not better than my own results, but close.  Definitely worth checking further.


Ron.       

hoper35

I've adjusted it to betting after 5 numbers rather than 6.   
1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 6 progression.


Ron.

Number Six

Hurried Splits Test - Part 1 (Primitive)

STAGE TWO

This is stage two of the primitive formula test.  Here we'll be using the double primitive formula – that is applying two separate formulas to hunt for two different sets of conditions.  We'll be searching for opportunities to bet on numbers that have arrived once and numbers that haven't arrived (but not in the same interval).  Because the formulas function independently of each other and interpret the results in totally distinct intervals, the staircase structure won't be created in this type of play.  Bets cannot overlap and no purple patches will be exposed.

Formula One is based on the Apex Theory and is the same formula as used in stage on of this test: track the results until six different splits have hit in a row, then bet them!  On a win, stop and track again.  On a loss, rebet and add the winning split.  So the first bet will be 6 splits, the second bet 7 splits, the third bet 8 splits and so on until a winner is hit.  A traditional negative progression of 1, 1, 2, 4, 9 is required.  The zero is discounted.

Formula Two bets on splits that haven't arrived: track ten spins, if eight or less different splits have hit, then bet the unhit splits for up to eight spins (betting a maximum of 26 numbers).  Various negative progressions are required.  The zero is discounted. 

The spin outcomes are the same as stage one of this test and were taken one at a time from random.org.

1 = tracking formula 1
2 = tracking formula 2
(t) = tracking
(a) = attacking
(b-nn) = bet
nn = end of attack/interval
Red #= betting opportunity
Green # = intersection of failed tracking phase and fresh one
Blue # = new interval

[table=&]
Spin&Out&Split&1&2&Bet&Res&Net
1&23&20:23&t&t&&-&-
2&27&27:30&t&t&&-&-
3&2&2:5&t&t&&-&-
4&28&25:28&t&t&&-&-
5&21&21:24&t&t&&-&-
6&0&-&t&t&&-&-
7&26&26:29&t&t&&-&-
8&30&27:30&a&t&(b1) 2:5, 20:23, 21:24, 25:28, 26:29, 27:30&W(b1)&+12
9&22&19:22&t&t&&-&-
10&21&21:24&t&t&&-&-   
11&3&3:6&t&a&(b2)1:4,3:6,7:10,8:11,9:12,13:16,14:17,15:18,31:34,32:35,33:36&W(b2)&+19
12&2&2:5&t&t&&-&-
13&36&33:36&t&t&&-&-
14&7&7:10&t&t&&-&-
15&3&3:6&a&t&(b1) 2:5, 3:6, 7:10, 19:22, 21:24, 33:36&W(b1)&+31
16&30&27:30&t&t&&-&-
17&22&19:22&t&t&&-&-
18&13&13:16&t&t&&-&-
19&0&-&t&t&&-&-
20&10&7:10&t&t&&-&-
21&31&31:34&t&t&&-&-
22&26&26:29&t&t&collision (b1) in play&-&-
23&13&13:16&a&t&(b1) 7:10, 13:16, 19:22, 26:29, 27:30, 31:34&W(b1)&+43
24&0&-&t&t&&-&-
25&27&27:30&t&t&&-&-
26&18&15:18&t&t&&-&-
27&0&-&t&t&&-&-
28&15&15:18&t&t&&-&-
29&2&2:5&t&t&&-&-
30&10&7:10&t&t&&-&-
31&0&-&t&t&&-&-
32&27&27:30&t&t&&-&-
33&22&19:22&t&a&(b2)1:4,3:6,8:11,9:12,14:17,19:22,20:23,21:24,25:28,26:29,31:34,32:35,33:36&W(b2)&+48
34&11&8:11&t&t&&-&-
35&5&2:5&a&t&(b1) 2:5, 7:10, 8:11, 15:18, 19:22, 27:30&W(b1)&+60
36&3&3:6&t&t&&-&-
37&29&26:29&t&t&&-&-
38&7&7:10&t&t&&-&-
39&19&19:22&t&t&&-&-
40&25&25:28&t&t&&-&-
41&0&-&t&t&&-&-
42&4&1:4&t&t&&-&-
43&6&3:6&a&t&(b1) 1:4, 3:6, 7:10, 19:22, 25:28, 26:29&W(b1)&+72
44&18&15:18&t&a&(b2)9:12,13:16,14:17,15:18,20:23,21:24,27:30,31:34,32:35,33:36&W(b2)&+80
45&7&7:10&t&t&&-&-
46&20&20:23&t&t&&-&-
47&14&14:17&t&t&&-&-
48&32&32:35&t&t&&-&-
49&9&9:12&t&t&&-&-
50&20&20:23&a&t&(b1) 7:10, 9:12, 14:17, 15:18, 20:23, 32:35&W(b1)&+92
51&9&9:12&t&t&&-&-&
52&36&33:36&t&t&&-&-
53&3&3:6&t&t&&-&-
54&36&33:36&t&t&&-&-
55&33&33:36&t&a&(b2)1:4,2:5,8:11,13:16,15:18,19:22,21:24,25:28,26:29,27:30,31:34&L(b2)&+81
56&27&27:30&t&a&(b2)1:4,2:5,8:11,13:16,15:18,19:22,21:24,25:28,26:29,27:30,31:34&W(b2)&+95
57&0&-&t&t&&-&-
58&12&9:12&t&t&&-&-
59&32&32:35&t&t&&-&-
60&22&19:22&t&t&&-&-
61&26&26:29&t&t&&-&-
62&9&9:12&a&t&(b1) 9:12, 19:22, 26:29, 27:30, 32:35, 33:36&W(b1)&+107
[/table]

[table=>]
Double Primitive Summary
Spins>62
Outlay>-109 units
Gain>216 units
Net> +107 units
Opportunities exposed>12
Bets placed>12
1st spin hit rate>92%
2nd spin hit rate>8%
Bets missed>4
[/table]

So the progression was only needed once on Formula Two.  Betting opportunities collided once, on spin 22, so we bet the Formula One opportunity and won.  The double primitive formula injects some variation into our playing tactics. The progressions were very conservative, slightly more aggressive and we could have added an extra 50 or 60 units net gain. Formula Two has the ability to backtrack after a win, starting a new interval on previous spins and exposing a lot more betting opportunities but this can be covered later.

In this test the double primitive performed particularly well compared to the single primitive.  The outlay was heavier but our gross gain was much higher, resulting in an additional 23 units net.  We missed a total of four betting opportunities – three apexes and one situation where bets collided.  The first spin hit rate, as you'll see, was excellent.  This can easily be played in a B&M casino and although it is far from perfect, it can be pretty effective. These tests are meant to demonstrate the usefulness and application of the Law, and trust me there are some great systems to be made.

metalrat

Hi
Primative or not, 2 games of 100 spins using the stage 1 version:

14/4 - 130 units
15/4 - 165 units

cheers,

metalrat

Number Six

Hello Metalrat,

I'm presuming that's +295??  :D
Well, these tests are good for kicking on and designing better systems. I have used the stage two version in real play before but a bad session can be fairly ruinous with a traditional negative progression. I generally use an aggressive divisor staking plan, which can improve any system enormously. I wouldn't say either of the two systems posted here should be used, to be honest, but they show the law of the third has potential. 

metalrat

Hi Number six,

indeed +295 at DublinBet.
And yes, some very hairy situations, albeit not ruinous this time.
I am looking forward to reading about the aggressive divisor staking plan, hoping you are willing
to share that with us.
I am in for the long term winnings, small as they may be.
Been around this and other forums a while now, and have noticed that spectacular does not last long.
Potential is a good and worthwhile description, neither raising undue expectations nor leaving no room for
improvement.
Thanks for posting and i am looking forword to further lessons.

cheers,

metalrat

Number Six

Hi Metalrat...and any other readers  :)

I said I'd test the double primitive formula system over the next few weeks...however, as I wouldn't use it again myself nor recommend it, I think it would be a bit pointless. It is, after all, only supposed to be a quick demonstration of the Law at work. A brief word on the divisor...I usually test with a pluscoup progression, true negative progressions, flat betting and a divisor, so I can compare them all. The divisor outperforms the others by a long way.

Instead of testing the system outlined in stage two, I'll be testing something more usable. It will have two primitive formulas (for betting on splits that haven't hit/have hit once or more than once) and a hybrid formula (for betting a combination of hit and unhit splits). Each formula will thrive on specific sets of favourable conditions. Tracking will involve charting the outcomes for x spins (probably 9 or 10), then attacking for y spins (probably 5 or 6). Attacks will be wrapped up by spin 16 of the interval at the latest. Only one formula will lead the attack, and which one depends on the conditions revealed by tracking. This allows us to be betting every 10 or 12 spins, rather than spending an age recording the results.

I'll try to keep the tests true to real situations...testing for sessions of 120 spins (maximum), with a stop-loss, profit target, using a divisor. If the system is in profit after five tests, around 600 spins, then I'll post it with the divisor plan.

Stay tuned  ;)


xman1970


Lanky

QuoteA brief word on the divisor...I usually test with a pluscoup progression, true negative progressions, flat betting and a divisor, so I can compare them all. The divisor outperforms the others by a long way.

Hi #6.

Amen to that Brother.

Lanky.

Lanky

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