Wakers and sleepers?!

[ryan08]

I see this a lot on here, and I don't really get why people like to make their bet selection with numbers that don't hit very much, such as what you guys call 'sleepers' and 'wakers'. Surely it would make more sense to target the 'hot' numbers or sectors of the wheel.

Look at what you are doing another way here. Pretend your a taxi driver, now your working on a night and place A if full of fares, places B and C are empty. Place A represents the hot numbers or sectors, B the wakers and C the sleepers. Now A is where all the calls are coming from and it would make sense to go their and get a share in the action (playing the hot numbers). Now your playing wakers, so what your doing is waiting for that one phone call from B so you can rush over there and hope another fare appears there. Why? and even worse are the sleeper players, they will happily sit there in C with the engine running using their fuel (bankroll) waiting for that fare, again why?

Now ask yourself the question, who do you want to be, the guy at place A,B or C?

[winkel]

After some time the taxi-driver will know when there are fares at which place.

So will be at A when there are fares, at B when there are fares and at C when there is rush-hour.

e.g. In the morning the people start at the airport to get to the city.
In the evening they want get from the City to the airport.
and in the afternoon, the housewives wanna visit their boy-friends.



winkel

[ryan08]

i think you missed the point of the post winkel

[See_Jerek]

I think you missed the point of the post winkel

My dear friend,

I miss you so much.....You have been missing for a while,nice to see you back in action again.

[MAX]

Hi

The taxi driver must park his taxi in the middle of the three points to be able the cover more with less and to be able to make his 1% daily  wages . His petrol will be saved if dispersion waves hit him  when he received calls from all three places.

To park your taxi at one point is not advisable, like Manrique said you do not send all you solders to Beruit .

Regards
Max

[ryan08]

I think you have missed the point as well here, its not a good idea to cover both hot and cold numbers at the same time, the point of the taxi is why would you prefer to cover sleeping numbers rather than hot numbers? yet i still see alot of systems based on this idea. I dont see why you guys cant grasp what i am saying here, hi btw jerek m8.

[winkel]

Ryan,

you didn´t get my point.

We don´t have to decide to cover sleepers or hot ones.

we just have to cover each of them when they are "due".
Sometimes we are too early and some we stay too long at our taxi-parking-space.
That´s all.

br
winkel

[ryan08]

i know we dont have to but if you read my post properly i say alot of people base their systems on the sleeper principle and im trying to show why it is a bad idea

[MAX]

Hi

Now ask yourself the question, who do you want to be, the guy at place A,B or C?

My friend I would not park at a, b or c,at the end of the day all is random it not good to put all your eggs in one nest. Rather catch the dispersion .

To select hot ,cold numbers or wheel sectors to be successful it all depends on dispersion to be on your side.

The method each person chose to play is there tool to fight  dispersion  and  he find it at that moment in his life to be the best on the roulette journey. If it is good or bad we discover it by study and practice.



Regards
Max

[ryan08]

hot numbers are really the only way to get any edge over the house, forget all the waiting for X 3 times then bet Y, its been proven not to work. At the end of the day you can debate dispertion surfing etc, but think about this, whats the best and easiest way to win at roulette? bias is, all hot numbers are biased whether it be short term or long term.

so in this case it is far easier to put all your eggs in one basket rather than trying to do all this dispertion surfing and progression stuff which can lose you alot when it doesnt work and the reward isnt that great when it does work.

[MAX]

Hi

With controlled dispersion hot numbers ,cold numbers ......are involved.

While playing there are only 4 possible scenarios.

1:We hit well above the average expected.

2:Results have alternated losses slightly above the average expected, giving an overall balance still     positive.

3:Results have alternated losses slightly below the average expected, giving an overall negative balance.

4:We hit well below the average expected.

The end result all depends how you react on the scenario on hand.

Regards
Max      

[ryan08]

but think of it like this, imagine you know in the next hundred spins that red will hit 60/100 times and black will hit 40/100 (forget 0 for now) so if you bet red you will end up +20 guaranteed, so if you know this would you try and guess when black was going to hit and risk cutting your profit margin? yes its possible you could make even more money but its also possible you can mess up and possibly even make a loss! why risk it? that would make no sense but, thats effectively what you are doing when you are trying to guess the dispertion.

[MATTJONO]

hi ryan,

long time no see my friend.

Now ask yourself the question, who do you want to be, the guy at place A,B or C?

my view on this is.

i would be the guy who gets to place B at the correct time, as place A is full of fairs at the moment but as we know place A wouldnt of been the hottest place for the taxi drivers to go all day, there would of been a driver at place A before it even started getting busy he has the experience to get there first and get as many fairs as possible while place A is hottest. but place A will end up sometime being the sleeper of place A,B,C.  so i think its all down to timeing and averages.


as we know how often will we see this, (100SPINS)
DOZEN A 1-12 hit 59 times,
DOZEN B 13-24 hit 22 times,
DOZEN C 25-36 hit 19 times,  


if i seen this i would most certanly not play dozen A, i would play a flatbetting on DOZEN B,C and when each hits i add a extra unit to the bets on that dozen hit. POSISTIVE PROGRESSION.


cheers,
mattjono

[ryan08]

hi mattjono.

i cant think of any logical reason why you would play the 2 dozens with a negative expectation, dozen A has hit more than dozens B and C put together, its madness betting on B and C, am i the only one that can see this? i have never heard anyone be a long term winner by playing the coldest numbers on the wheel, its ridiculous.

[MATTJONO]

I understand yes I could even end up agreeing with you with time to come, BUT I still say a good time to start betting a number is when its is STARTING to get hot not at the end. 

from your point of view when we enter a casino we do not have alot of spin data usually around 12 spins history, so we may as well just go with the hottest numbers section e.t.c.  but like I said if I had over 50 spins worth of history I would find the 3 lowest hit streets from the past 50 spins and when any of them hit 2 times or more in within 12 spins. I would then play this street as its a waker and from my point of view is due to go on a mad streak  .

cheers,
mattjono


P.S --- nice avator ryan08.

[MATTJONO]

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